Vista downgrade rights - have anybody tried it?

Have anybody actually try to install XP Pro on Vista Business OEM licensed PC?

I installed XP Pro using onld XP pro key and then called activation center
to activate the XP pro. They said I still need valid XP Pro key. They
didn't even want to know my Vista Business OEM key on the PC.
MS statement specifically said explain and then activate. Representitive
said I got miss informed by MS.
But this is what my MS, Dell, and HP representitives told me to do.


<http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf>
Q: When a previously-licensed version of Windows XP Professional is used for
the
downgrade, won’t Windows product activation fail on the new PC?
A: When using downgrade rights offered under the License Terms in Windows
Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and a Windows XP product key that was
previously activated, online activation over the Internet will fail due to
the hardware configuration change that occurs when installing on the Vista
system. In these cases, the OS will prompt the customer to call the
Activation Support Line and explain the circumstances to the Customer Service
Representative. Once it is determined that the Vista Business or Ultimate
license is valid, the Customer Service Representative will manually activate
Windows XP.

Your situation is not making any sense. Yes, you can install Windows XP if
you own a genuine license for that computer which is separate from the Vista
OEM license. Downgrade rights are only provided by the OEM if its part of
the agreement when you purchased their computer. Microsoft is not
responsible for downgrade rights unless you purchase one of their Licensing
Agreements such as Software Assurance or Enterprise Agreement.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"ndy" <> wrote in message
news:A931C291-D4FA-4F13-8435-...
> Have anybody actually try to install XP Pro on Vista Business OEM licensed
> PC?
>
> I installed XP Pro using onld XP pro key and then called activation center
> to activate the XP pro. They said I still need valid XP Pro key. They
> didn't even want to know my Vista Business OEM key on the PC.
> MS statement specifically said explain and then activate. Representitive
> said I got miss informed by MS.
> But this is what my MS, Dell, and HP representitives told me to do.
>
>
> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf>
> Q: When a previously-licensed version of Windows XP Professional is used
> for
> the
> downgrade, won't Windows product activation fail on the new PC?
> A: When using downgrade rights offered under the License Terms in Windows
> Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and a Windows XP product key that
> was
> previously activated, online activation over the Internet will fail due to
> the hardware configuration change that occurs when installing on the Vista
> system. In these cases, the OS will prompt the customer to call the
> Activation Support Line and explain the circumstances to the Customer
> Service
> Representative. Once it is determined that the Vista Business or Ultimate
> license is valid, the Customer Service Representative will manually
> activate
> Windows XP.
>

Apparently, you did not adequetely and clearly explain
your intention to exercise the downgrade rights.
Just saying " I need a valid XP Pro key" won't cut it.

See the following:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

"ndy" wrote:

Have anybody actually try to install XP Pro on Vista Business OEM licensed PC?

I installed XP Pro using onld XP pro key and then called activation center
to activate the XP pro. They said I still need valid XP Pro key. They
didn't even want to know my Vista Business OEM key on the PC.
MS statement specifically said explain and then activate. Representitive
said I got miss informed by MS.
But this is what my MS, Dell, and HP representitives told me to do.


<http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf>
Q: When a previously-licensed version of Windows XP Professional is used for
the
downgrade, won’t Windows product activation fail on the new PC?
A: When using downgrade rights offered under the License Terms in Windows
Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and a Windows XP product key that was
previously activated, online activation over the Internet will fail due to
the hardware configuration change that occurs when installing on the Vista
system. In these cases, the OS will prompt the customer to call the
Activation Support Line and explain the circumstances to the Customer Service
Representative. Once it is determined that the Vista Business or Ultimate
license is valid, the Customer Service Representative will manually activate
Windows XP.

According to MS Vista Downgrade Rights,
Downgrade rights are an end-user right and are documented in the product
License
Terms or End-User License Agreement (EULA) and refer to the ability of your
customers to acquire the most recent version of Microsoft® operating system
software but continue to run a previous version until they are ready to move
to the new operating system version.

Is this mean, I still have to XP Pro OEM license?
So I end up paying for XP and Vista license? And then why is it called
downgrade rights?

Dell and HP representitives are saying I do not need to purchase XP Pro OEM
licenses once I purchased Vista Business OEM license on the same workstation.
Maybe my Dell and HP people are wrong.


"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

> Your situation is not making any sense. Yes, you can install Windows XP if
> you own a genuine license for that computer which is separate from the Vista
> OEM license. Downgrade rights are only provided by the OEM if its part of
> the agreement when you purchased their computer. Microsoft is not
> responsible for downgrade rights unless you purchase one of their Licensing
> Agreements such as Software Assurance or Enterprise Agreement.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "ndy" <> wrote in message
> news:A931C291-D4FA-4F13-8435-...
> > Have anybody actually try to install XP Pro on Vista Business OEM licensed
> > PC?
> >
> > I installed XP Pro using onld XP pro key and then called activation center
> > to activate the XP pro. They said I still need valid XP Pro key. They
> > didn't even want to know my Vista Business OEM key on the PC.
> > MS statement specifically said explain and then activate. Representitive
> > said I got miss informed by MS.
> > But this is what my MS, Dell, and HP representitives told me to do.
> >
> >
> > <http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf>
> > Q: When a previously-licensed version of Windows XP Professional is used
> > for
> > the
> > downgrade, won't Windows product activation fail on the new PC?
> > A: When using downgrade rights offered under the License Terms in Windows
> > Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and a Windows XP product key that
> > was
> > previously activated, online activation over the Internet will fail due to
> > the hardware configuration change that occurs when installing on the Vista
> > system. In these cases, the OS will prompt the customer to call the
> > Activation Support Line and explain the circumstances to the Customer
> > Service
> > Representative. Once it is determined that the Vista Business or Ultimate
> > license is valid, the Customer Service Representative will manually
> > activate
> > Windows XP.
> >
>
>
>

Just call the number, and tell them you put in a new motherboard. They are an
unhappy bunch and don't care about your reasons.

What is interesting is that I have put my legal copy of XP on 3 of my
machines in the last two months, and it hasn't asked me to call- it just
activated. Previously, I always had to call. I am a little surprised that you
have even run into this.

Anyhoodles, the new motherboard reason is quick and easy for them to
understand.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Apparently, you did not adequetely and clearly explain
> your intention to exercise the downgrade rights.
> Just saying " I need a valid XP Pro key" won't cut it.
>
> See the following:
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "ndy" wrote:
>
> Have anybody actually try to install XP Pro on Vista Business OEM licensed PC?
>
> I installed XP Pro using onld XP pro key and then called activation center
> to activate the XP pro. They said I still need valid XP Pro key. They
> didn't even want to know my Vista Business OEM key on the PC.
> MS statement specifically said explain and then activate. Representitive
> said I got miss informed by MS.
> But this is what my MS, Dell, and HP representitives told me to do.
>
>
> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf>
> Q: When a previously-licensed version of Windows XP Professional is used for
> the
> downgrade, won’t Windows product activation fail on the new PC?
> A: When using downgrade rights offered under the License Terms in Windows
> Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and a Windows XP product key that was
> previously activated, online activation over the Internet will fail due to
> the hardware configuration change that occurs when installing on the Vista
> system. In these cases, the OS will prompt the customer to call the
> Activation Support Line and explain the circumstances to the Customer Service
> Representative. Once it is determined that the Vista Business or Ultimate
> license is valid, the Customer Service Representative will manually activate
> Windows XP.
>

He has 100 workstations with XP.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Bif VanDerFluffy" <> wrote in
message news:160C5765-9469-433A-9FD4-...
> Just call the number, and tell them you put in a new motherboard. They are
> an
> unhappy bunch and don't care about your reasons.
>
> What is interesting is that I have put my legal copy of XP on 3 of my
> machines in the last two months, and it hasn't asked me to call- it just
> activated. Previously, I always had to call. I am a little surprised that
> you
> have even run into this.
>
> Anyhoodles, the new motherboard reason is quick and easy for them to
> understand.
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Apparently, you did not adequetely and clearly explain
>> your intention to exercise the downgrade rights.
>> Just saying " I need a valid XP Pro key" won't cut it.
>>
>> See the following:
>> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "ndy" wrote:
>>
>> Have anybody actually try to install XP Pro on Vista Business OEM
>> licensed PC?
>>
>> I installed XP Pro using onld XP pro key and then called activation
>> center
>> to activate the XP pro. They said I still need valid XP Pro key. They
>> didn't even want to know my Vista Business OEM key on the PC.
>> MS statement specifically said explain and then activate. Representitive
>> said I got miss informed by MS.
>> But this is what my MS, Dell, and HP representitives told me to do.
>>
>>
>> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf>
>> Q: When a previously-licensed version of Windows XP Professional is used
>> for
>> the
>> downgrade, won't Windows product activation fail on the new PC?
>> A: When using downgrade rights offered under the License Terms in Windows
>> Vista Business and Ultimate versions, and a Windows XP product key that
>> was
>> previously activated, online activation over the Internet will fail due
>> to
>> the hardware configuration change that occurs when installing on the
>> Vista
>> system. In these cases, the OS will prompt the customer to call the
>> Activation Support Line and explain the circumstances to the Customer
>> Service
>> Representative. Once it is determined that the Vista Business or Ultimate
>> license is valid, the Customer Service Representative will manually
>> activate
>> Windows XP.
>>