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flashblue
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      07-24-2007
Hi

I have vista home premium with MSI PM8M3-V motherboard, 512 mb RAM, Intel
Celeron D 2.66 ghz processor, Western Digital 120 gb hd, ATI Radeon X1300
512mb gfx card

vista freezes randomly; i could be listening to music, burning a dvd or just
using explorer

when it freezes i have to reboot and the cursor turns to a smallish black box

all the event logs says is unexpected system shutdown at that time

problem reports dont say anything either

windows is updated and drivers are updated

Help me please! Thanks!
 
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noaim
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      07-24-2007
from what I understand its recommended to run at least a gig of ram in
windows vista.
that's probably your problem



"flashblue" <(donotspam)> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I have vista home premium with MSI PM8M3-V motherboard, 512 mb RAM, Intel
> Celeron D 2.66 ghz processor, Western Digital 120 gb hd, ATI Radeon X1300
> 512mb gfx card
>
> vista freezes randomly; i could be listening to music, burning a dvd or
> just
> using explorer
>
> when it freezes i have to reboot and the cursor turns to a smallish black
> box
>
> all the event logs says is unexpected system shutdown at that time
>
> problem reports dont say anything either
>
> windows is updated and drivers are updated
>
> Help me please! Thanks!


 
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Sue
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      07-24-2007

"flashblue" <(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:1A65AB9B-F5AB-4001-8C15-...
> Hi
>
> I have vista home premium with MSI PM8M3-V motherboard, 512 mb RAM, Intel
> Celeron D 2.66 ghz processor, Western Digital 120 gb hd, ATI Radeon X1300
> 512mb gfx card
>
> vista freezes randomly; i could be listening to music, burning a dvd or
> just
> using explorer
>
> when it freezes i have to reboot and the cursor turns to a smallish black
> box
>
> all the event logs says is unexpected system shutdown at that time
>
> problem reports dont say anything either
>
> windows is updated and drivers are updated
>
> Help me please! Thanks!


512K RAM is not NEARLY enough for Vista Home Premium You need 2 gigs, and
Vista Basic needs 1 gig. That is your problem.

 
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Bill Yanaire
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      07-24-2007
Why would it just freeze? If there isn't enough memory, won't it cache to
the hard drive? I think so. It will be slow but it shouldn't freeze.
Could be a memory or hardware issue.


"Sue" <> wrote in message
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>
> "flashblue" <(donotspam)> wrote in message
> news:1A65AB9B-F5AB-4001-8C15-...
>> Hi
>>
>> I have vista home premium with MSI PM8M3-V motherboard, 512 mb RAM, Intel
>> Celeron D 2.66 ghz processor, Western Digital 120 gb hd, ATI Radeon X1300
>> 512mb gfx card
>>
>> vista freezes randomly; i could be listening to music, burning a dvd or
>> just
>> using explorer
>>
>> when it freezes i have to reboot and the cursor turns to a smallish black
>> box
>>
>> all the event logs says is unexpected system shutdown at that time
>>
>> problem reports dont say anything either
>>
>> windows is updated and drivers are updated
>>
>> Help me please! Thanks!

>
> 512K RAM is not NEARLY enough for Vista Home Premium You need 2 gigs, and
> Vista Basic needs 1 gig. That is your problem.



 
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flashblue
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      07-25-2007
I used windows memory diagnostic tool and nothing was wrong... i uses western
digital diagnostic tool and my hard drive passed as well...

"Bill Yanaire" wrote:

> Why would it just freeze? If there isn't enough memory, won't it cache to
> the hard drive? I think so. It will be slow but it shouldn't freeze.
> Could be a memory or hardware issue.
>
>
> "Sue" <> wrote in message
> news4A9F3FE-C4E3-46D2-8C06-...
> >
> > "flashblue" <(donotspam)> wrote in message
> > news:1A65AB9B-F5AB-4001-8C15-...
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I have vista home premium with MSI PM8M3-V motherboard, 512 mb RAM, Intel
> >> Celeron D 2.66 ghz processor, Western Digital 120 gb hd, ATI Radeon X1300
> >> 512mb gfx card
> >>
> >> vista freezes randomly; i could be listening to music, burning a dvd or
> >> just
> >> using explorer
> >>
> >> when it freezes i have to reboot and the cursor turns to a smallish black
> >> box
> >>
> >> all the event logs says is unexpected system shutdown at that time
> >>
> >> problem reports dont say anything either
> >>
> >> windows is updated and drivers are updated
> >>
> >> Help me please! Thanks!

> >
> > 512K RAM is not NEARLY enough for Vista Home Premium You need 2 gigs, and
> > Vista Basic needs 1 gig. That is your problem.

>
>
>

 
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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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      07-26-2007
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:42:01 -0700, flashblue

>I have vista home premium with MSI PM8M3-V motherboard, 512 mb RAM, Intel
>Celeron D 2.66 ghz processor, Western Digital 120 gb hd, ATI Radeon X1300
>512mb gfx card


>vista freezes randomly; i could be listening to music, burning a dvd or just
>using explorer


That's most likely to be hardware, such as:
- overclocking
- bad PSU or motherboard caps
- bad SVGA (GPU) or poor cooling thereof
- bad RAM, mobo, CPU, or poor cooling thereof

Quite a wide range, I know. If you get a mix of failures (i.e. some
restarts, BSoD STOP errors, etc.) then that's more general, more
likely RAM; if always hard lock, more likely power (in bits of time
too small to trigger a reset) or other hardware mistimings.

If software does this, it will generally be at a "low level", close to
the bone (hardware). Think drivers, services, OS code, or malware
embedded in or maquerading as these.

Try to avoid "death by a thousand resets". Vista will appear to let
you do this with impunity, as AutoChk (or new equivalent) silently
"fixes" the file system while destroying any bent file content. This
effect will be worse if the nature of the crashes are themselves
likely to impose "wild" writes to disk, corrupting this in odd ways.



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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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      07-26-2007
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:14:02 -0400, "Sue"

>512K RAM is not NEARLY enough for Vista Home Premium You need 2 gigs, and
>Vista Basic needs 1 gig. That is your problem.


Nope. Vista Basic is fine in 512M from a stability perspective, and I
expect other Vista editions will be too - just slower, if there's more
gunk flying around.

If you forced Vista to run without paging space, you may have
problems, but they would usually manifest differently.



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MARVIC
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      01-15-2009

You are not the only one. I also have random hangs (no BS) eve
*with(out!) all recent OR old drivers (of every hardware!) in EVEN 32 o
64 bits version*. Take a look in de admin tools for the logfiles an
you'll find 2 main problems (I don't have the details with me now
somthing about Http and something about a security pack kerberos that i
NOT needed in Vista).

Clicking on those redirects you to a knowledge base of MS wit all sort
of comments of user *having exact the same experiences* driving everyon
crazy. Before that all my NEW hardware had been exchanged and still i
exists.

MS seems to ignore all those uses and even tells to ignore thes
logfiles / error ("LOL", ignoring an error!) but most of those user
even have the newest hardware!
*sight

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Nominativ
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      01-15-2009

Your RAM is too low

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MARVIC
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      01-15-2009

Mine isn't :rolleyes

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