Vista hiding downloads from eMule filesharing

I found another reason Vista is evil: invisible downloads.

I use eMule filesharing program. In my other computers (XP and
Win2000), when I download a file using eMule, it is found in
*C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder.

But when I finished downloading a file with the Vista based computer, I
went to access the file at *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder, but
it was empty - no files indicated.

The eMule program indicated that the file was complete and available
for Sharing.

Using the Search Engine couldn't find it either.

I wracked my brain trying to figure out what had happened. There was
nothing about solving this problem on the internet.

I concluded that the file(s) were hidden, and invisible from the Search
Engine.

So from the eMule tab 'Shared File' I highlighted the downloaded file,
Right-clicked on it. I then selected the option 'Shell Menu' (don't
know what that even means) and then found a "Create a Shortcut to the
Desktop" option. So when I selected it, an icon for that file did
appear on the Desktop for the file.

So where did Vista hide the file? Right Clicking on the file icon
revealed it was at *C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual
Store\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* - Now how is anyone supposed to
think of that location. GEEZ!

I wonder if there is a way to set eMule to send the download to a more
obvious spot like C:\PeerToPeer ?

I can assume that any other downloading program that runs through
Program Files application is going to have its files hidden too, and
only accessable though that 'Virtual Store' area
C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual Store\Program
Files\

'Virtual Store' means 'Hiding Place from users!'


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When you went to C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming in Explorer, you should
have seen a button on the toolbar called "Compatability Files". Clicking on
this will take you to the virtualstore location.


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"superintelligentone" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
> I found another reason Vista is evil: invisible downloads.
>
> I use eMule filesharing program. In my other computers (XP and
> Win2000), when I download a file using eMule, it is found in
> *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder.
>
> But when I finished downloading a file with the Vista based computer, I
> went to access the file at *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder, but
> it was empty - no files indicated.
>
> The eMule program indicated that the file was complete and available
> for Sharing.
>
> Using the Search Engine couldn't find it either.
>
> I wracked my brain trying to figure out what had happened. There was
> nothing about solving this problem on the internet.
>
> I concluded that the file(s) were hidden, and invisible from the Search
> Engine.
>
> So from the eMule tab 'Shared File' I highlighted the downloaded file,
> Right-clicked on it. I then selected the option 'Shell Menu' (don't
> know what that even means) and then found a "Create a Shortcut to the
> Desktop" option. So when I selected it, an icon for that file did
> appear on the Desktop for the file.
>
> So where did Vista hide the file? Right Clicking on the file icon
> revealed it was at *C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual
> Store\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* - Now how is anyone supposed to
> think of that location. GEEZ!
>
> I wonder if there is a way to set eMule to send the download to a more
> obvious spot like C:\PeerToPeer ?
>
> I can assume that any other downloading program that runs through
> Program Files application is going to have its files hidden too, and
> only accessable though that 'Virtual Store' area
> C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual Store\Program
> Files\
>
> 'Virtual Store' means 'Hiding Place from users!'
>
>
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"superintelligentone" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
> I found another reason Vista is evil: invisible downloads.
>
> I use eMule filesharing program. In my other computers (XP and
> Win2000), when I download a file using eMule, it is found in
> *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder.
>
> But when I finished downloading a file with the Vista based computer, I
> went to access the file at *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder, but
> it was empty - no files indicated.
>
> The eMule program indicated that the file was complete and available
> for Sharing.
>
> Using the Search Engine couldn't find it either.
>
> I wracked my brain trying to figure out what had happened. There was
> nothing about solving this problem on the internet.
>
> I concluded that the file(s) were hidden, and invisible from the Search
> Engine.
>
> So from the eMule tab 'Shared File' I highlighted the downloaded file,
> Right-clicked on it. I then selected the option 'Shell Menu' (don't
> know what that even means) and then found a "Create a Shortcut to the
> Desktop" option. So when I selected it, an icon for that file did
> appear on the Desktop for the file.
>
> So where did Vista hide the file? Right Clicking on the file icon
> revealed it was at *C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual
> Store\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* - Now how is anyone supposed to
> think of that location. GEEZ!
>
> I wonder if there is a way to set eMule to send the download to a more
> obvious spot like C:\PeerToPeer ?
>
> I can assume that any other downloading program that runs through
> Program Files application is going to have its files hidden too, and
> only accessable though that 'Virtual Store' area
> C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual Store\Program
> Files\
>
> 'Virtual Store' means 'Hiding Place from users!'
>
>


EMule is not Vista compatible. Create a folder in your user profile where
you want the downloads to show up. Change eMule to download files to this
location.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

That is how vista works.

After install programs are not permitted to write
to the Program Files folder. It goes to your
user folder.

If you are as your name states tell emule
to download to a folder of your choice.



"superintelligentone" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
> I found another reason Vista is evil: invisible downloads.
>
> I use eMule filesharing program. In my other computers (XP and
> Win2000), when I download a file using eMule, it is found in
> *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder.
>
> But when I finished downloading a file with the Vista based computer, I
> went to access the file at *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder, but
> it was empty - no files indicated.
>
> The eMule program indicated that the file was complete and available
> for Sharing.
>
> Using the Search Engine couldn't find it either.
>
> I wracked my brain trying to figure out what had happened. There was
> nothing about solving this problem on the internet.
>
> I concluded that the file(s) were hidden, and invisible from the Search
> Engine.
>
> So from the eMule tab 'Shared File' I highlighted the downloaded file,
> Right-clicked on it. I then selected the option 'Shell Menu' (don't
> know what that even means) and then found a "Create a Shortcut to the
> Desktop" option. So when I selected it, an icon for that file did
> appear on the Desktop for the file.
>
> So where did Vista hide the file? Right Clicking on the file icon
> revealed it was at *C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual
> Store\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* - Now how is anyone supposed to
> think of that location. GEEZ!
>
> I wonder if there is a way to set eMule to send the download to a more
> obvious spot like C:\PeerToPeer ?
>
> I can assume that any other downloading program that runs through
> Program Files application is going to have its files hidden too, and
> only accessable though that 'Virtual Store' area
> C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual Store\Program
> Files\
>
> 'Virtual Store' means 'Hiding Place from users!'
>
>
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That's one of the problems with Vista. It doesn't
give software permission to write to its own
application folder by default! To mkae matters
worse, it doesn't tell you and instead writes to
different locations, so that the real folder becomes
a dummy shortcut. (The same is true with the Registry.)

In addition to the other options posted here, you
can solve that problem for all of your software by
either giving yourself full rights to the Program Files
folder (I assume that's possible, but I'm not certain) or
by installing all of your software to a folder you
create, such as C:\Programs.

> I found another reason Vista is evil: invisible downloads.
>
> I use eMule filesharing program. In my other computers (XP and
> Win2000), when I download a file using eMule, it is found in
> *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder.
>
> But when I finished downloading a file with the Vista based computer, I
> went to access the file at *C:\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* folder, but
> it was empty - no files indicated.
>
> The eMule program indicated that the file was complete and available
> for Sharing.
>
> Using the Search Engine couldn't find it either.
>
> I wracked my brain trying to figure out what had happened. There was
> nothing about solving this problem on the internet.
>
> I concluded that the file(s) were hidden, and invisible from the Search
> Engine.
>
> So from the eMule tab 'Shared File' I highlighted the downloaded file,
> Right-clicked on it. I then selected the option 'Shell Menu' (don't
> know what that even means) and then found a "Create a Shortcut to the
> Desktop" option. So when I selected it, an icon for that file did
> appear on the Desktop for the file.
>
> So where did Vista hide the file? Right Clicking on the file icon
> revealed it was at *C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual
> Store\Program Files\eMule\Incoming* - Now how is anyone supposed to
> think of that location. GEEZ!
>
> I wonder if there is a way to set eMule to send the download to a more
> obvious spot like C:\PeerToPeer ?
>
> I can assume that any other downloading program that runs through
> Program Files application is going to have its files hidden too, and
> only accessable though that 'Virtual Store' area
> C:\User\superintelligentone\App Data\Local\Virtual Store\Program
> Files\
>
> 'Virtual Store' means 'Hiding Place from users!'
>
>
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"mayayana" <> wrote in message
news:...
> That's one of the problems with Vista. It doesn't
> give software permission to write to its own
> application folder by default! To mkae matters
> worse, it doesn't tell you and instead writes to
> different locations, so that the real folder becomes
> a dummy shortcut. (The same is true with the Registry.)
>
> In addition to the other options posted here, you
> can solve that problem for all of your software by
> either giving yourself full rights to the Program Files
> folder (I assume that's possible, but I'm not certain) or
> by installing all of your software to a folder you
> create, such as C:\Programs.
>


I don't know of any secure OS' that allow users to write data to a system
folder that holds programs. Following your directions will compromise the
security of your computer. I agree the virtual file and registry store may
not be a good idea but compromising the security of your computer as a
workaround is an even worse idea. In the case of the OP it's a pretty easy
fix to change where the files are located. This doesn't compromise security.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

Strange, I see your response but not my
own post. I can't figure out why posts
sometimes don't appear on msnews, where
they're sent, but still show up on Google
newsgroups!

> I don't know of any secure OS' that allow users to write data to a system
> folder that holds programs. Following your directions will compromise the
> security of your computer.

One person's security is another person's
poor design. If you don't want your software to
access its own folder path that's up to you.
But making a statement like the one above is
disingeuous. You know perfectly well that nearly
everyone running pre-Vista is running with no
restrictions on %Program Files%. Personally I'd
take my security chances with Win98 and a good
firewall before Vista.

The OP is describing frustration with Vista's
virtualization/UAC. Saying the software is
"not Vista compatible" is misleading. People
have options. I was explaining one of those options
that you pretend does not exist.

For anyone who wants to actually understand
UAC, rather than call software companies and
complain that "your software is not Vista compatible",
I think this link pretty well covers it:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...-2b2f-422c-b70
e-b18ff918c2811033.mspx





> > That's one of the problems with Vista. It doesn't
> > give software permission to write to its own
> > application folder by default! To mkae matters
> > worse, it doesn't tell you and instead writes to
> > different locations, so that the real folder becomes
> > a dummy shortcut. (The same is true with the Registry.)
> >
> > In addition to the other options posted here, you
> > can solve that problem for all of your software by
> > either giving yourself full rights to the Program Files
> > folder (I assume that's possible, but I'm not certain) or
> > by installing all of your software to a folder you
> > create, such as C:\Programs.
> >
>
>
> I don't know of any secure OS' that allow users to write data to a system
> folder that holds programs. Following your directions will compromise the
> security of your computer. I agree the virtual file and registry store may
> not be a good idea but compromising the security of your computer as a
> workaround is an even worse idea. In the case of the OP it's a pretty easy
> fix to change where the files are located. This doesn't compromise
security.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>

are you still using an old eMule version? Wake up! eMule 0.48a released about
1 year ago, is fully Vista compatible. This bug is fixed ages ago!

BillD;3458855 Wrote:
> are you still using an old eMule version? Wake up! eMule 0.48a released
> about
> 1 year ago, is fully Vista compatible. This bug is fixed ages ago!

I've just bought this Vista based computer and I'm using eMule Plus
v1.2 - I was under the impression that it was better than eMule. I
guess not.

> eMule Plus is a new generation client. It was created to improve the
> original graphic user interface, and to bring you the best experience.
> Emule Plus is compatible with eMule.
>
> This version supports huge files (up to 512GB), can update the server
> list from servers and clients, supports previewing encrypted RAR
> archives, and can configurate default file permission. Emule Plus 1.2b
> also adds many other small changes and fixes many many minor bugs.


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