Vista Home Premium can't connect by remote desktop to XP Media Cen

I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to my XP
Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling the firewall. I
can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am using a
nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the vista machine. Can
anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop the
firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and everything
works.

"ebyars" <> wrote in message
news:615E7372-DC73-4CA7-93FD-...
>I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to my XP
> Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling the firewall.
> I
> can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am using a
> nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the vista machine.
> Can
> anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop the
> firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and everything
> works.

What firewall? Windows firewall?

IMO if you are behind a router (Firewall) turn it off, It will just cause
more problems than good...


--
ZÿRiX
(¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)

Yes its the Windows Firewall. There is no router involved. The machines are
on the same subnet.

"ZÿRiX" wrote:

>
>
> "ebyars" <> wrote in message
> news:615E7372-DC73-4CA7-93FD-...
> >I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to my XP
> > Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling the firewall.
> > I
> > can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am using a
> > nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the vista machine.
> > Can
> > anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop the
> > firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and everything
> > works.
>
> What firewall? Windows firewall?
>
> IMO if you are behind a router (Firewall) turn it off, It will just cause
> more problems than good...
>
>
> --
> ZÿRiX
> (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
>
>

ebyars wrote:
|| Yes its the Windows Firewall. There is no router involved. The
|| machines are on the same subnet.
||
|| "ZÿRiX" wrote:
||
|||
|||
||| "ebyars" <> wrote in message
||| news:615E7372-DC73-4CA7-93FD-...
|||| I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to
|||| my XP Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling
|||| the firewall. I
|||| can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am
|||| using a nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the
|||| vista machine. Can
|||| anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop
|||| the firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and
|||| everything works.
|||
||| What firewall? Windows firewall?
|||
||| IMO if you are behind a router (Firewall) turn it off, It will just
||| cause more problems than good...
|||
|||
||| --
||| ZÿRiX
||| (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)

So you are on a private network without internet and using static ip's?
or on a public internet with multiable public ip's?

If it is public get your self a router and disable the firewall or make sure
the ports are open (ping the ip using the port)

If it is private why use the firewall? but if you want it, as stated above
make sure the ports are open and associated with RDP...

--
ZÿRiX
(¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)

I have opened the port in Windows Firewall. This did not solve the problem. I
am not sure what you mean by associate it with RDP. I have no RDP or Remote
Desktop option in the firewall setup. To clarify, my problem is with the
Vista Firewall. It will not allow RDP through on my nonstandard port. I have
not tried port 3389, because I need the nonstandard port to be able to
connect through my Universities firewall. It works fine using an XP box from
there, so my router setup is OK. I just can't connect from Vista on the local
(private) subnet.

"ZÿRiX" wrote:

> ebyars wrote:
> || Yes its the Windows Firewall. There is no router involved. The
> || machines are on the same subnet.
> ||
> || "ZÿRiX" wrote:
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "ebyars" <> wrote in message
> ||| news:615E7372-DC73-4CA7-93FD-...
> |||| I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to
> |||| my XP Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling
> |||| the firewall. I
> |||| can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am
> |||| using a nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the
> |||| vista machine. Can
> |||| anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop
> |||| the firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and
> |||| everything works.
> |||
> ||| What firewall? Windows firewall?
> |||
> ||| IMO if you are behind a router (Firewall) turn it off, It will just
> ||| cause more problems than good...
> |||
> |||
> ||| --
> ||| ZÿRiX
> ||| (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
>
> So you are on a private network without internet and using static ip's?
> or on a public internet with multiable public ip's?
>
> If it is public get your self a router and disable the firewall or make sure
> the ports are open (ping the ip using the port)
>
> If it is private why use the firewall? but if you want it, as stated above
> make sure the ports are open and associated with RDP...
>
> --
> ZÿRiX
> (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
>
>

In the exceptions tab you have Remote Desktop... And vista firewall does
control out going traffic as well...

Try this...
http://www.vistahunt.com/windows-vis...-firewall.html

Or do a little reverse engineering from this site...
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...3738&SiteID=17



--
ZÿRiX
(¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)

"ebyars" <> wrote in message
news:99CABB13-8AAA-42E0-ABAE-...
>I have opened the port in Windows Firewall. This did not solve the problem.
>I
> am not sure what you mean by associate it with RDP. I have no RDP or
> Remote
> Desktop option in the firewall setup. To clarify, my problem is with the
> Vista Firewall. It will not allow RDP through on my nonstandard port. I
> have
> not tried port 3389, because I need the nonstandard port to be able to
> connect through my Universities firewall. It works fine using an XP box
> from
> there, so my router setup is OK. I just can't connect from Vista on the
> local
> (private) subnet.
>
> "ZÿRiX" wrote:
>
>> ebyars wrote:
>> || Yes its the Windows Firewall. There is no router involved. The
>> || machines are on the same subnet.
>> ||
>> || "ZÿRiX" wrote:
>> ||
>> |||
>> |||
>> ||| "ebyars" <> wrote in message
>> ||| news:615E7372-DC73-4CA7-93FD-...
>> |||| I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to
>> |||| my XP Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling
>> |||| the firewall. I
>> |||| can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am
>> |||| using a nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the
>> |||| vista machine. Can
>> |||| anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop
>> |||| the firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and
>> |||| everything works.
>> |||
>> ||| What firewall? Windows firewall?
>> |||
>> ||| IMO if you are behind a router (Firewall) turn it off, It will just
>> ||| cause more problems than good...
>> |||
>> |||
>> ||| --
>> ||| ZÿRiX
>> ||| (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
>>
>> So you are on a private network without internet and using static ip's?
>> or on a public internet with multiable public ip's?
>>
>> If it is public get your self a router and disable the firewall or make
>> sure
>> the ports are open (ping the ip using the port)
>>
>> If it is private why use the firewall? but if you want it, as stated
>> above
>> make sure the ports are open and associated with RDP...
>>
>> --
>> ZÿRiX
>> (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
>>
>>

My Vista Home Premium does not list Remote Desktop on the exceptions tab of
the Firewall.

"ZÿRiX" wrote:

> In the exceptions tab you have Remote Desktop... And vista firewall does
> control out going traffic as well...
>
> Try this...
> http://www.vistahunt.com/windows-vis...-firewall.html
>
> Or do a little reverse engineering from this site...
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...3738&SiteID=17
>
>
>
> --
> ZÿRiX
> (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
>
> "ebyars" <> wrote in message
> news:99CABB13-8AAA-42E0-ABAE-...
> >I have opened the port in Windows Firewall. This did not solve the problem.
> >I
> > am not sure what you mean by associate it with RDP. I have no RDP or
> > Remote
> > Desktop option in the firewall setup. To clarify, my problem is with the
> > Vista Firewall. It will not allow RDP through on my nonstandard port. I
> > have
> > not tried port 3389, because I need the nonstandard port to be able to
> > connect through my Universities firewall. It works fine using an XP box
> > from
> > there, so my router setup is OK. I just can't connect from Vista on the
> > local
> > (private) subnet.
> >
> > "ZÿRiX" wrote:
> >
> >> ebyars wrote:
> >> || Yes its the Windows Firewall. There is no router involved. The
> >> || machines are on the same subnet.
> >> ||
> >> || "ZÿRiX" wrote:
> >> ||
> >> |||
> >> |||
> >> ||| "ebyars" <> wrote in message
> >> ||| news:615E7372-DC73-4CA7-93FD-...
> >> |||| I have been unable to connect from my Vista Home Premium laptop to
> >> |||| my XP Media Center computer using remote desktop without disabling
> >> |||| the firewall. I
> >> |||| can connect to it using other XP machines but not with Vista. I am
> >> |||| using a nonstandard port and have opened it in the firewall on the
> >> |||| vista machine. Can
> >> |||| anyone tell me how to allow this with the firewall on? I can stop
> >> |||| the firewall and make the connection, the restart the firewall and
> >> |||| everything works.
> >> |||
> >> ||| What firewall? Windows firewall?
> >> |||
> >> ||| IMO if you are behind a router (Firewall) turn it off, It will just
> >> ||| cause more problems than good...
> >> |||
> >> |||
> >> ||| --
> >> ||| ZÿRiX
> >> ||| (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
> >>
> >> So you are on a private network without internet and using static ip's?
> >> or on a public internet with multiable public ip's?
> >>
> >> If it is public get your self a router and disable the firewall or make
> >> sure
> >> the ports are open (ping the ip using the port)
> >>
> >> If it is private why use the firewall? but if you want it, as stated
> >> above
> >> make sure the ports are open and associated with RDP...
> >>
> >> --
> >> ZÿRiX
> >> (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯)
> >>
> >>
>
>

This is true and I understand that. But the question is why can I not to XP
from vista without disabling the Windows Firewall?

Is this a known issue? Am I doing something dumb? If so I would love to be
educated.

Thanks for trying to help anyway!


"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> "ebyars" <> wrote in message
> news:37BCB7D4-F9AF-4763-AB3C-...
> > My Vista Home Premium does not list Remote Desktop on the exceptions tab
> > of
> > the Firewall.
> >
> >>
>
> Remote Desktop is not available in Vista Starter, Home Basic, or Home
> Premium. From the help files:
>
> "You cannot use Remote Desktop Connection to connect to computers running
> Windows Vista Starter, Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Home Basic N,
> or Windows Vista Home Premium. You can, however, connect from those editions
> of Windows Vista to computers running other versions of Windows."
>
> One of the computers must be running Vista Business or Ultimate.
>