Vista Home Premium OEM Software usage

I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide margin; but it also ran XP Pro.

Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install, loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique to the computer its installed on.

The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services. CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.

Any advice would be welcome,

Chris


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"grizzly44" wrote in message news:...
I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all
the bloatware you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide margin; but it also ran XP Pro.

Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install, loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's
product key? If so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would
have an OEM product key unique to the computer its installed on.

The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything.
And by the way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services. CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50%
on average at idle also.

Any advice would be welcome,

Chris


Post Originated from Vista Support Forums

The OEM Product Key on your laptop is tied to the OEM copy installed by HP.
If YOU buy an Vista OEM DVD, it comes with its own Product Key, that you
can use on your laptop.

But, in amongst HP's garbage will be unique drivers pertaining to
proprietary hardware they have installed in your laptop.
Sound has been the prob I've always had doing that!

Your idea will work OK, but you might be missing some Drivers.
Also, you void your Warranty; for what it is worth!!!!!
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Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"grizzly44" wrote:

> I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>
> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install, loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique to the computer its installed on.
>
> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services. CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>
> Any advice would be welcome,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums
>

My new HP with Premium factory installed runs with core 1 at 0% to 2% as I
write this, and core 2 at 3% to 5%. (Also AMD dual core, a6230n model.) This
is after it's done all its initial settling in, and I've taken a few things
out of the start menu that I don't use. RAM is about 50% but my
understanding is Vista's meant to run this way -- and I also am using 4Gb of
RamBoost via a flash drive.

Have had no problems -- running well.

LesleyO

(PS: I am the wife in this family; my husband is the one who isn't as
computer literate.)

"grizzly44" wrote in message news:...
>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware
>you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide
>margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>
> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install,
> loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If
> so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista
> disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique
> to the computer its installed on.
>
> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks
> which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the
> way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services.
> CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>
> Any advice would be welcome,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums

The usage the processor that shows 20 to 40 % on a newish machine is usually
the newer style indexing service Vista uses. Leave the machine on over night
and it will have indexed most things and the problem will be reduced.
Failing that disable the indexing by right clicking on the 'c' drive in my
computer and unchecking the indexing option (my own personal preference). I
have a HP laptop that I got in May 2007 running Vista home premium. Took off
the obvious 3rd party bloat ware but left the HP stuff. It runs fine and has
good performance, doing exactly what it said on the box. I did remove Roxio
burning software and replaced it with Nero.

Cheers,

Chris.

"grizzly44" wrote in message news:...
>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware
>you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide
>margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>
> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install,
> loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If
> so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista
> disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique
> to the computer its installed on.
>
> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks
> which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the
> way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services.
> CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>
> Any advice would be welcome,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums

The decrapifier finds stuff you wouldn't and overlooks stuff you'd find:
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/apps
You might want to give it a whirl before you spend time and money.

<grizzly44> wrote in message news:...
>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware you
>can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide margin;
>but it also ran XP Pro.
>
> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install, loosing
> all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If so, I see no
> reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista disk on my
> desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique to the
> computer its installed on.
>
> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks which
> still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the way I've
> tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services. CPU is always
> 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>
> Any advice would be welcome,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums

It's better to just uninstall the programs you know you'll never use and
leave the OS and the rest as is. You lose warranty support on the HP if you
change the OS for one thing. The emphasis on 'bloat' in these systems is
somewhat overblown IMHO. Most of the installed software is inactive and
doesn't affect system performance. It just takes up a bit of harddrive
space. Be aware that it is possible there could be Media Center add-ons that
rely on other installed software in order to function. For instance HP had a
unique music player add-on for MCE 2005 that linked into Itunes and couldn't
run without it, also MuVee and ,IIRC, WinDVD burning add-ons for Media
Center.

Of the programs that would be running in the background, the AV, firewall
(if 3rd party) and other anti-malware apps are more likely to be responsible
for slowing down the system. Those you could replace with your own preferred
software. The remote help/software updating service also runs in the
background. It is something a lot of people consider intrusive so they
remove it... but that also removes some instant access live support, which
some new owners have regretted. Some of the CPU activity initially will be
the Vista indexing service running. That will tone down to practically
nothing over time.

"grizzly44" wrote in message news:...
>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware
>you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide
>margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>
> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install,
> loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If
> so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista
> disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique
> to the computer its installed on.
>
> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks
> which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the
> way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services.
> CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>
> Any advice would be welcome,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums

Another good cleanup program is msicuu.exe... Windows Installer Cleanup. It
lists what's there and you choose what programs to remove.


"grizzly44" wrote in message news:...
>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware
>you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide
>margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>
> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install,
> loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If
> so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista
> disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique
> to the computer its installed on.
>
> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks
> which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the
> way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services.
> CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>
> Any advice would be welcome,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums

"John" <> wrote in message
news:Oq$m$...
> Another good cleanup program is msicuu.exe... Windows Installer Cleanup.
> It lists what's there and you choose what programs to remove.
>
>
> "grizzly44" wrote in message news:...
>>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware
>>you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide
>>margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>>
>> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install,
>> loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If
>> so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista
>> disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key
>> unique to the computer its installed on.
>>
>> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks
>> which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the
>> way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services.
>> CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.
>>
>> Any advice would be welcome,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums
>
>


you can try at newegg.com for an oem version. one thing you can try is to
turn off indexing, this will speed up your system.


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> "John" <> wrote in message
> news:Oq$m$...
>> Another good cleanup program is msicuu.exe... Windows Installer Cleanup.
>> It lists what's there and you choose what programs to remove.
>>
>>
>> "grizzly44" wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory
>>>installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the
>>>bloatware you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core
>>>by a wide margin; but it also ran XP Pro.
>>>
>>> Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install,
>>> loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key?
>>> If so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the
>>> Vista disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product
>>> key unique to the computer its installed on.
>>>
>>> The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks
>>> which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by
>>> the way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG &
>>> services. CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at
>>> idle also.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be welcome,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Post Originated from Vista Support Forums
>>
>>
>
>
> you can try at newegg.com for an oem version. one thing you can try is to
> turn off indexing, this will speed up your system.
>
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IMHO, HP isn't responsible for "all the crap that's slowing down
everything", that's Microsoft. I never had an HP, but on my Dell you can
remove all the OEM garbage in Control Panel, Uninstall a program. The
suggestion to do a complete install is like taking a sledge hammer to it,
and won't accomplish that much.

Earle