Vista IDE slave problem

I have bought a new system with Vista Home Premium and I am trying to
install an IDE hard drive as a slave. These are from my old system and I
just want them installed so I can copy across stuff.

I have done this in XP with no problem but I cannot seem to get this system
to see them.

If they do not show up in Bios does this mean Vista wont see them? I have
tried varies jumper settings but my Bios just wont see either of my drives.

My new system has a Sata HD installed so I am just connecting my slave IDE
HD to the empty IDE connector on the Mobo.

Can someone please help?

Thanks

Graham

Graham Hall wrote:

> I have bought a new system with Vista Home Premium and I am trying to
> install an IDE hard drive as a slave. These are from my old system and I
> just want them installed so I can copy across stuff.
>
> I have done this in XP with no problem but I cannot seem to get this
> system to see them.
>
> If they do not show up in Bios does this mean Vista wont see them? I have
> tried varies jumper settings but my Bios just wont see either of my
> drives.
>
> My new system has a Sata HD installed so I am just connecting my slave IDE
> HD to the empty IDE connector on the Mobo.

If the BIOS doesn't see the drive of course Windows can't. Go into your BIOS
and see if that IDE connector is enabled. It may not be.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

"Graham Hall" <> wrote:

>I have bought a new system with Vista Home Premium and I am trying to
>install an IDE hard drive as a slave. These are from my old system and I
>just want them installed so I can copy across stuff.
>
>I have done this in XP with no problem but I cannot seem to get this system
>to see them.
>
>If they do not show up in Bios does this mean Vista wont see them?

Yup.

>I have tried varies jumper settings but my Bios just wont see either of
>my drives.
>
>My new system has a Sata HD installed so I am just connecting my slave IDE
>HD to the empty IDE connector on the Mobo.
>
>Can someone please help?

If it is the only drive on that connector, then it isn't a "slave".
Check the drive and see how it's supposed to be jumpered if it's the
ONLY drive.

"Malke" <> wrote in message
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> Graham Hall wrote:
>
>> I have bought a new system with Vista Home Premium and I am trying to
>> install an IDE hard drive as a slave. These are from my old system and I
>> just want them installed so I can copy across stuff.
>>
>> I have done this in XP with no problem but I cannot seem to get this
>> system to see them.
>>
>> If they do not show up in Bios does this mean Vista wont see them? I
>> have
>> tried varies jumper settings but my Bios just wont see either of my
>> drives.
>>
>> My new system has a Sata HD installed so I am just connecting my slave
>> IDE
>> HD to the empty IDE connector on the Mobo.
>
> If the BIOS doesn't see the drive of course Windows can't. Go into your
> BIOS
> and see if that IDE connector is enabled. It may not be.

Yes enabled but still not seeing it, I guess all that is left is the cable
but is was good in my old system.

Very strange but thanks for your reply!

"Bill Daggett" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Graham Hall" <> wrote:
>
>>I have bought a new system with Vista Home Premium and I am trying to
>>install an IDE hard drive as a slave. These are from my old system and I
>>just want them installed so I can copy across stuff.
>>
>>I have done this in XP with no problem but I cannot seem to get this
>>system
>>to see them.
>>
>>If they do not show up in Bios does this mean Vista wont see them?
>
> Yup.
>
>>I have tried varies jumper settings but my Bios just wont see either of
>>my drives.
>>
>>My new system has a Sata HD installed so I am just connecting my slave IDE
>>HD to the empty IDE connector on the Mobo.
>>
>>Can someone please help?
>
> If it is the only drive on that connector, then it isn't a "slave".
> Check the drive and see how it's supposed to be jumpered if it's the
> ONLY drive.

Have tried all setting, master, slave cable select but still BIOS doesn't
see it, very strange must be cable will order new one and try!

Thanks again

Hi,

If you're using a 40 wire cable, you may need to switch to an 80 wire one.
Also check the BIOS' ide detection settings, it may be disabled.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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"Graham Hall" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Daggett" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "Graham Hall" <> wrote:
>>
>>>I have bought a new system with Vista Home Premium and I am trying to
>>>install an IDE hard drive as a slave. These are from my old system and I
>>>just want them installed so I can copy across stuff.
>>>
>>>I have done this in XP with no problem but I cannot seem to get this
>>>system
>>>to see them.
>>>
>>>If they do not show up in Bios does this mean Vista wont see them?
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>>>I have tried varies jumper settings but my Bios just wont see either of
>>>my drives.
>>>
>>>My new system has a Sata HD installed so I am just connecting my slave
>>>IDE
>>>HD to the empty IDE connector on the Mobo.
>>>
>>>Can someone please help?
>>
>> If it is the only drive on that connector, then it isn't a "slave".
>> Check the drive and see how it's supposed to be jumpered if it's the
>> ONLY drive.
>
> Have tried all setting, master, slave cable select but still BIOS doesn't
> see it, very strange must be cable will order new one and try!
>
> Thanks again
>

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> If you're using a 40 wire cable, you may need to switch to an 80 wire one.
> Also check the BIOS' ide detection settings, it may be disabled.

Yeah all set to auto detect unless I have missed something, new PC = New
Bios so still fiding my way around it but so far all looks set to go in
there!

The Cable is out of my old machine and worked fine with the HD in there,
should that not work with the same HD in a new machine?

Thanks again

Graham

Graham Hall wrote:

>
> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you're using a 40 wire cable, you may need to switch to an 80 wire
>> one. Also check the BIOS' ide detection settings, it may be disabled.
>
> Yeah all set to auto detect unless I have missed something, new PC = New
> Bios so still fiding my way around it but so far all looks set to go in
> there!
>
> The Cable is out of my old machine and worked fine with the HD in there,
> should that not work with the same HD in a new machine?

Just change the cable, OK? It's an easy step and it might be the answer. If
the old cable was 40-wire as Rick suggested, putting in an 80-wire might fix
it. Or maybe the drive itself is hosed.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

"Malke" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Graham Hall wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you're using a 40 wire cable, you may need to switch to an 80 wire
>>> one. Also check the BIOS' ide detection settings, it may be disabled.
>>
>> Yeah all set to auto detect unless I have missed something, new PC = New
>> Bios so still fiding my way around it but so far all looks set to go in
>> there!
>>
>> The Cable is out of my old machine and worked fine with the HD in there,
>> should that not work with the same HD in a new machine?
>
> Just change the cable, OK? It's an easy step and it might be the answer.
> If
> the old cable was 40-wire as Rick suggested, putting in an 80-wire might
> fix
> it. Or maybe the drive itself is hosed.

OK just to update you, I put the drive and the cable back in my old machine
and it works.

So have once again put back in new machine into the IDE connection on the
mobo and with the drive set to master or slave the bios still sees nothing.
Have double checked Bios and everyting is set to detect drive, so I am
totally lost on this one!

Thanks guys for your suggestions, but am lost now!

Graham

"CAPIN' CRUNCH" <CC@IAM&IDIOT.COM> wrote in message
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> Graham Hall wrote:
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you're using a 40 wire cable, you may need to switch to an 80 wire
>>> one. Also check the BIOS' ide detection settings, it may be disabled.
>>
>> Yeah all set to auto detect unless I have missed something, new PC = New
>> Bios so still fiding my way around it but so far all looks set to go in
>> there!
>>
>> The Cable is out of my old machine and worked fine with the HD in there,
>> should that not work with the same HD in a new machine?
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
> The cable should be fine.
>
> Did you go into disk management and see if the HDD is listed there? If it
> is then right click on it make it "active'.

Did that and it is not there, but as someone said if it aint in the Bios it
isn't going to be seen by Windows :-(

Thanks anyway!