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Bob Petruska
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      09-23-2007
I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up a
log in ID or password? Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to boot
up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning (takeds5
minutes to boot). I don't wish to wait there for the Vista log in. I'm the
only home user and won't need additional accounts. IOW, when you perform a
Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and password blank and
will not require the ID and Password to boot every time. Does Vista have
this?


 
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Michael
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      09-23-2007
Bob,

Not having an administrative user (besides the default one ) is a really bad
idea you WILL regret it but you can do it.
Create an administrative account, give it a password, and make a password
reset disk. Life will be a lot less interesting this way.

You can set the system to automatically logon to a particular user (with or
without password) on startup.
You turn it on, it logs itself in and you are at the desktop of the
specified user.

I would recommend that you normally not turn off your Vista, instead put it
to sleep or hibernate. These functions work much better than they did in XP.
On my Vista home premium the time from Sleep -> usable is about 10 seconds
(would be 4 seconds but my CRT monitor needs to warm up).

Michael
Vista home premium


"Bob Petruska" <> wrote in message
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>I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
>would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up a
>log in ID or password? Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to boot
>up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning (takeds5
>minutes to boot). I don't wish to wait there for the Vista log in. I'm
>the only home user and won't need additional accounts. IOW, when you
>perform a Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and password
>blank and will not require the ID and Password to boot every time. Does
>Vista have this?
>


 
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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      09-23-2007

"Bob Petruska" <> wrote in message news:%23LhaBMZ$...

> I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
> would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up a
> log in ID or password?


Yes. That's the default if you watch your install.

> Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to boot
> up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning (takeds5
> minutes to boot).


You should repair your XP.... Boot time for XP Home as a single user
should be less than 45 seconds.... for single user XP Pro, even less.

> IOW, when you perform a
> Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and password blank and
> will not require the ID and Password to boot every time. Does Vista have
> this?


Yes.

But you should fix your XP. Obviously there's far too much in the
start-up menu and there are basic maintenance issues that need
to be addressed. I'd pull my hair out if the boot time were over
60 seconds.... there's no excuse for it.





 
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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      09-23-2007

"Michael" <> wrote in message...

> Bob,
>
> Not having an administrative user (besides the default one ) is a really bad
> idea you WILL regret it


Explain.


 
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Michael
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      09-23-2007
One example:

Install with only the default administrator account.

Install a program that requires a net.asp. This program will generate a
ASPNET account that is an administrator.
The presence of an administrator account (the asp.net account) disables the
default administrator account.
You now can no longer login as there is no account available to you.



I have also read that the IUSR_NMPR account does the same (media sharing
adds this account).
(to see if you have a NETASP or IUSR_NMPR account on your system: at the
command prompt type net users)

Michael

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> "Michael" <> wrote in message...
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>> Bob,
>>
>> Not having an administrative user (besides the default one ) is a really
>> bad
>> idea you WILL regret it

>
> Explain.
>
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
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      09-23-2007

"Michael" <> wrote in message news:%231ePDua$...
> One example:
>
> Install with only the default administrator account.
>
> Install a program that requires a net.asp. This program will generate a
> ASPNET account that is an administrator.


What is MS doing about that issue?


> The presence of an administrator account (the asp.net account) disables the
> default administrator account.


That is vile and unacceptable. Where can I find information regarding
what MS is doing about that less than minor anomaly? (Bug)


> You now can no longer login as there is no account available to you.


Can you seriously not delete that account when the program installs?
(Again, I work without UAC lurking in the background - disabled that
nightmare immediately on install - on a single user PC).


> I have also read that the IUSR_NMPR account does the same (media sharing
> adds this account).


Surely you can DELETE that account.


> (to see if you have a NETASP or IUSR_NMPR account on your system: at the
> command prompt type net users)
>
> Michael



Thanks for the heads up.... I've seen printers related software do this
regularly, but it's a simple matter to delete those accounts immediately.

This is a single user PC here... if these fraudulently created accounts can
not be deleted, I'd say that both MS and the OEM software builders have
some 'issues' to deal with.

SO.... can the OP set up an administrator account with NO password
to bypass logon and boot straight to the desktop?


Cheers,




 
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Richard G. Harper
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      09-23-2007
If you install Vista correctly, with only one user account, it should start
up and go directly to your desktop anyway. There's no way NOT to set up a
user in Vista since the built-in Administrator account is disabled, so you
HAVE to set up one user.

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"Bob Petruska" <> wrote in message
news:%23LhaBMZ$...
>I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
>would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up a
>log in ID or password? Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to boot
>up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning (takeds5
>minutes to boot). I don't wish to wait there for the Vista log in. I'm
>the only home user and won't need additional accounts. IOW, when you
>perform a Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and password
>blank and will not require the ID and Password to boot every time. Does
>Vista have this?
>


 
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Mick Murphy
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      09-23-2007
Just install leaving admin name and password blank.

"Bob Petruska" wrote:

> I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
> would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up a
> log in ID or password? Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to boot
> up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning (takeds5
> minutes to boot). I don't wish to wait there for the Vista log in. I'm the
> only home user and won't need additional accounts. IOW, when you perform a
> Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and password blank and
> will not require the ID and Password to boot every time. Does Vista have
> this?
>
>
>

 
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Bob Petruska
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      09-23-2007
Michael,

So you are saying that I should ...

1. Make sure that I set up an Administrative Account with password?

2. Create an Administrator User?

Is this Administrator User the same one that I'm asked to supply a User Name
and Password during the installation or do I do this after I complete the
install?



"Michael" <> wrote in message
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> Bob,
>
> Not having an administrative user (besides the default one ) is a really
> bad idea you WILL regret it but you can do it.
> Create an administrative account, give it a password, and make a password
> reset disk. Life will be a lot less interesting this way.
>
> You can set the system to automatically logon to a particular user (with
> or without password) on startup.
> You turn it on, it logs itself in and you are at the desktop of the
> specified user.
>
> I would recommend that you normally not turn off your Vista, instead put
> it to sleep or hibernate. These functions work much better than they did
> in XP. On my Vista home premium the time from Sleep -> usable is about 10
> seconds (would be 4 seconds but my CRT monitor needs to warm up).
>
> Michael
> Vista home premium
>
>
> "Bob Petruska" <> wrote in message
> news:%23LhaBMZ$...
>>I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
>>would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up
>>a log in ID or password? Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to
>>boot up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning
>>(takeds5 minutes to boot). I don't wish to wait there for the Vista log
>>in. I'm the only home user and won't need additional accounts. IOW, when
>>you perform a Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and
>>password blank and will not require the ID and Password to boot every
>>time. Does Vista have this?
>>

>



 
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Bob Petruska
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      09-23-2007
So Vista is just like the XP install, leave the User Name and Password blank
and I should be fine.


I have 40 items in my startup menu and they are are all required as my daily
work functions nicely with them. I don't mind the 5 minute boot time as I
make a cup of coffee during that.


"David Morgan (MAMS)" </Odm> wrote in message
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> "Bob Petruska" <> wrote in message
> news:%23LhaBMZ$...
>
>> I just bought Home Premium upgrade and before I start the installation I
>> would like to know if it is posssible to install Vista without setting up
>> a
>> log in ID or password?

>
> Yes. That's the default if you watch your install.
>
>> Simply, I just wish to turn on my computer to boot
>> up while I'm away from it as I do in Windows XP Pro every morning
>> (takeds5
>> minutes to boot).

>
> You should repair your XP.... Boot time for XP Home as a single user
> should be less than 45 seconds.... for single user XP Pro, even less.
>
>> IOW, when you perform a
>> Windows XP Pro install you can leave the log in ID and password blank and
>> will not require the ID and Password to boot every time. Does Vista have
>> this?

>
> Yes.
>
> But you should fix your XP. Obviously there's far too much in the
> start-up menu and there are basic maintenance issues that need
> to be addressed. I'd pull my hair out if the boot time were over
> 60 seconds.... there's no excuse for it.
>
>
>
>
>



 
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