Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole

Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they do work.

Maybe its the increased security in Vista.

Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to connect to
computer, network path not found ?

Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc options but when i
click event viewer get the above error.

Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
recommendations.

Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no real issues
at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection but thats on
a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site also, not
applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it will break
something else.)

Hello POP,

Thank you for posting here.

According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista client to
SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not found" when
you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view vista's event
log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me
know.

Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is still has some
compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following steps to see
if we can resolve this issue:

1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and Outlook
2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en

2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain

a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers

b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a computer
account in SBS domain for Vista client.

c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the wizard to
join the Vista client to SBS domain.

3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on Vista.
Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.

4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try to
disable them and have a test.

5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then test this
issue.

If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:

1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?

2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?

Hope these steps will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| From: "POP" <>
| Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
| Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
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| Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they do work.
|
| Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
|
| Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to connect
to
| computer, network path not found ?
|
| Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc options but
when i
| click event viewer get the above error.
|
| Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
| recommendations.
|
| Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no real
issues
| at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection but thats
on
| a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site also, not
| applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it will break
| something else.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

POP,

Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to "Automatic" startup
on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC then you should
find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely. Obviously if this
is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your Vista clients
accordingly.

Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security concern, if anyone
has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote registry service
I'd be interested to hear them...

"Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello POP,
>
> Thank you for posting here.
>
> According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista client to
> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not found" when
> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view vista's event
> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me
> know.
>
> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is still has some
> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following steps to see
> if we can resolve this issue:
>
> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and Outlook
> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
>
> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
>
> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
>
> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a computer
> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
>
> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the wizard to
> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
>
> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on Vista.
> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
>
> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try to
> disable them and have a test.
>
> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then test this
> issue.
>
> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
> kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:
>
> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
>
> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
>
> Hope these steps will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
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>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
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>
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> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> ================================================== ===
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> --------------------
> | From: "POP" <>
> | Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
> | Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
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> |
> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they do work.
> |
> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
> |
> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to connect
> to
> | computer, network path not found ?
> |
> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc options but
> when i
> | click event viewer get the above error.
> |
> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
> | recommendations.
> |
> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no real
> issues
> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection but thats
> on
> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site also, not
> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it will break
> | something else.)
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
>
>

Hi Duncan... you hit the nail on the head... that was the issue we found and
we are back in our labs to see if this is due to vista joining the domain
before the patches came out for vista / sbs2003 or is the default settings
on vista.

Terence, thank you for your comprehensive post but we found the issue was
solved by what Duncan mentioned, even though performance and logs is
presented with 'The operating system is newer than this (server) this
operation is not available'.... ;-)




"Duncan Collier" <> wrote in message
news:22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746-...
> POP,
>
> Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to "Automatic" startup
> on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC then you
> should
> find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely. Obviously if
> this
> is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your Vista clients
> accordingly.
>
> Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security concern, if
> anyone
> has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote registry
> service
> I'd be interested to hear them...
>
> "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Hello POP,
>>
>> Thank you for posting here.
>>
>> According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista client
>> to
>> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not found"
>> when
>> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view vista's event
>> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let me
>> know.
>>
>> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is still has
>> some
>> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following steps to
>> see
>> if we can resolve this issue:
>>
>> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
>> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and Outlook
>> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
>> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
>>
>> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
>>
>> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
>>
>> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a computer
>> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
>>
>> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the wizard
>> to
>> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
>>
>> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on Vista.
>> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
>>
>> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try to
>> disable them and have a test.
>>
>> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then test this
>> issue.
>>
>> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
>> kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:
>>
>> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
>>
>> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
>>
>> Hope these steps will give you some help.
>>
>> Thanks and have a nice day!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>>
>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>>
>> ================================================== ===
>> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
>> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
>> corresponding
>> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
>> manner.
>> You can locate the newsgroup here:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
>>
>> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
>> the
>> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
>> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
>> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
>> issue.
>>
>> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
>> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
>> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
>> doing
>> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>>
>> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
>> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>>
>> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>> ================================================== ===
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> --------------------
>> | From: "POP" <>
>> | Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
>> | Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
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>> |
>> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they do
>> work.
>> |
>> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
>> |
>> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to connect
>> to
>> | computer, network path not found ?
>> |
>> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc options but
>> when i
>> | click event viewer get the above error.
>> |
>> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
>> | recommendations.
>> |
>> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no real
>> issues
>> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection but
>> thats
>> on
>> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site also, not
>> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it will
>> break
>> | something else.)
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>>
>>

Hello POP,

Thank you very much for sharing your resolution. I appreciate your time on
this post.

I'm glad to hear that things are working correctly for you now.

I'd like to make a summary for this post:

Issue:
=============
Join a Vista client to SBS domain, but get error message "The network path
was not found" when run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view
vista's event log

Resolutions:
=============
Manually start the Remote Registry service on Vista client.

Please do not hesitate to post in this great newsgroup if you need any
assistance in the future. I look forward to working with you again.

Thank you and have a nice day,

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

================================================== ===
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|
| Hi Duncan... you hit the nail on the head... that was the issue we found
and
| we are back in our labs to see if this is due to vista joining the domain
| before the patches came out for vista / sbs2003 or is the default
settings
| on vista.
|
| Terence, thank you for your comprehensive post but we found the issue was
| solved by what Duncan mentioned, even though performance and logs is
| presented with 'The operating system is newer than this (server) this
| operation is not available'.... ;-)
|
|
|
|
| "Duncan Collier" <> wrote in
message
| news:22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746-...
| > POP,
| >
| > Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to "Automatic"
startup
| > on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC then you
| > should
| > find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely. Obviously
if
| > this
| > is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your Vista
clients
| > accordingly.
| >
| > Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security concern, if
| > anyone
| > has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote registry
| > service
| > I'd be interested to hear them...
| >
| > "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
| >
| >> Hello POP,
| >>
| >> Thank you for posting here.
| >>
| >> According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista
client
| >> to
| >> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not found"
| >> when
| >> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view vista's
event
| >> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to let
me
| >> know.
| >>
| >> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is still has
| >> some
| >> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following steps
to
| >> see
| >> if we can resolve this issue:
| >>
| >> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
| >> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and
Outlook
| >> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
| >>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
| >> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
| >>
| >> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
| >>
| >> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
| >>
| >> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a computer
| >> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
| >>
| >> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the
wizard
| >> to
| >> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
| >>
| >> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on Vista.
| >> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
| >>
| >> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try to
| >> disable them and have a test.
| >>
| >> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then test
this
| >> issue.
| >>
| >> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps,
please
| >> kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:
| >>
| >> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
| >>
| >> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
| >>
| >> Hope these steps will give you some help.
| >>
| >> Thanks and have a nice day!
| >>
| >> Best regards,
| >>
| >> Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >>
| >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >>
| >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >>
| >> ================================================== ===
| >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| >> corresponding
| >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| >> manner.
| >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
| >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
| >>
| >> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
check
| >> the
| >> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
are
| >> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
newsreader,
| >> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
| >> issue.
| >>
| >> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
| >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| >> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
| >> doing
| >> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >>
| >> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >>
| >> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| >> ================================================== ===
| >>
| >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| >> rights.
| >>
| >> --------------------
| >> | From: "POP" <>
| >> | Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
| >> | Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
| >> | Lines: 24
| >> | Message-ID: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
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microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:40551
| >> | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1
| >> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >> |
| >> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they do
| >> work.
| >> |
| >> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
| >> |
| >> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to
connect
| >> to
| >> | computer, network path not found ?
| >> |
| >> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc options but
| >> when i
| >> | click event viewer get the above error.
| >> |
| >> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
| >> | recommendations.
| >> |
| >> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no real
| >> issues
| >> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection but
| >> thats
| >> on
| >> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site also, not
| >> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it will
| >> break
| >> | something else.)
| >> |
| >> |
| >> |
| >> |
| >> |
| >> |
| >> |
| >>
| >>
|
|

Hi Terence, yes all working now, just added a GPO to start it on all Vista.

Would be nice to know if this was a security issue and Microsoft turned it
off... or was it an oversight... ;-) If a security issue some notes would be
great.


"Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello POP,
>
> Thank you very much for sharing your resolution. I appreciate your time on
> this post.
>
> I'm glad to hear that things are working correctly for you now.
>
> I'd like to make a summary for this post:
>
> Issue:
> =============
> Join a Vista client to SBS domain, but get error message "The network path
> was not found" when run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to
> view
> vista's event log
>
> Resolutions:
> =============
> Manually start the Remote Registry service on Vista client.
>
> Please do not hesitate to post in this great newsgroup if you need any
> assistance in the future. I look forward to working with you again.
>
> Thank you and have a nice day,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
> the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> ================================================== ===
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> --------------------
> | From: "POP" <>
> | References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
> <>
> <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
> | In-Reply-To: <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
> | Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
> | Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:16:21 +0100
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> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> |
> | Hi Duncan... you hit the nail on the head... that was the issue we found
> and
> | we are back in our labs to see if this is due to vista joining the
> domain
> | before the patches came out for vista / sbs2003 or is the default
> settings
> | on vista.
> |
> | Terence, thank you for your comprehensive post but we found the issue
> was
> | solved by what Duncan mentioned, even though performance and logs is
> | presented with 'The operating system is newer than this (server) this
> | operation is not available'.... ;-)
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | "Duncan Collier" <> wrote in
> message
> | news:22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746-...
> | > POP,
> | >
> | > Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to "Automatic"
> startup
> | > on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC then you
> | > should
> | > find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely. Obviously
> if
> | > this
> | > is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your Vista
> clients
> | > accordingly.
> | >
> | > Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security concern, if
> | > anyone
> | > has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote registry
> | > service
> | > I'd be interested to hear them...
> | >
> | > "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
> | >
> | >> Hello POP,
> | >>
> | >> Thank you for posting here.
> | >>
> | >> According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista
> client
> | >> to
> | >> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not
> found"
> | >> when
> | >> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view vista's
> event
> | >> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to
> let
> me
> | >> know.
> | >>
> | >> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is still
> has
> | >> some
> | >> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following steps
> to
> | >> see
> | >> if we can resolve this issue:
> | >>
> | >> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
> | >> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and
> Outlook
> | >> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
> | >>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
> | >> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
> | >>
> | >> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
> | >>
> | >> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
> | >>
> | >> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a
> computer
> | >> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
> | >>
> | >> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the
> wizard
> | >> to
> | >> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
> | >>
> | >> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on Vista.
> | >> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
> | >>
> | >> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try to
> | >> disable them and have a test.
> | >>
> | >> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then test
> this
> | >> issue.
> | >>
> | >> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps,
> please
> | >> kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:
> | >>
> | >> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
> | >>
> | >> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
> | >>
> | >> Hope these steps will give you some help.
> | >>
> | >> Thanks and have a nice day!
> | >>
> | >> Best regards,
> | >>
> | >> Terence Liu(MSFT)
> | >>
> | >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> | >>
> | >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | >>
> | >> ================================================== ===
> | >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
> issues
> | >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> | >> corresponding
> | >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
> | >> manner.
> | >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> | >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
> | >>
> | >> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
> check
> | >> the
> | >> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
> are
> | >> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
> newsreader,
> | >> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
> your
> | >> issue.
> | >>
> | >> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
> we
> | >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> | >> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> | >> doing
> | >> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
> | >>
> | >> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
> Please
> | >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
> numbers.
> | >>
> | >> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> | >> ================================================== ===
> | >>
> | >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> | >> rights.
> | >>
> | >> --------------------
> | >> | From: "POP" <>
> | >> | Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
> | >> | Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
> | >> | Lines: 24
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> | >> | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
> | >> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:40551
> | >> | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1
> | >> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | >> |
> | >> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they do
> | >> work.
> | >> |
> | >> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
> | >> |
> | >> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to
> connect
> | >> to
> | >> | computer, network path not found ?
> | >> |
> | >> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc options
> but
> | >> when i
> | >> | click event viewer get the above error.
> | >> |
> | >> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
> | >> | recommendations.
> | >> |
> | >> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no
> real
> | >> issues
> | >> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection but
> | >> thats
> | >> on
> | >> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site also,
> not
> | >> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it will
> | >> break
> | >> | something else.)
> | >> |
> | >> |
> | >> |
> | >> |
> | >> |
> | >> |
> | >> |
> | >>
> | >>
> |
> |
>

Hello POP,

Thank you for kind update.

This is by-design, and it is not an oversight. As we know, the Vista is
more security than XP, and the Vista system will often be used in laptop
device, and many users will use Vista at home without join domain.
Therefore, by default, the Remote Registry service is set to Manual.
However, when you join the Vista client in Windows 2003 domain, we may use
this service, so you can manually start it.

When the Vista client join domain, it must be in internal network, started
Remote Registry service will not drop your security level. Please don't
worry.

Hope the info will give you some help.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

================================================== ===
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regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
You can locate the newsgroup here:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx

When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
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provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
================================================== ===

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
| From: "POP" <>
| References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
<>
<22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
<919A1ADA-3C5E-436B-9DD5->
<>
| In-Reply-To: <>
| Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
| Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:22:50 +0100
| Lines: 324
| Message-ID: <06C41A74-6725-413B-8D2E->
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| NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
|
| Hi Terence, yes all working now, just added a GPO to start it on all
Vista.
|
| Would be nice to know if this was a security issue and Microsoft turned
it
| off... or was it an oversight... ;-) If a security issue some notes would
be
| great.
|
|
| "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-> wrote in message
| news:...
| > Hello POP,
| >
| > Thank you very much for sharing your resolution. I appreciate your time
on
| > this post.
| >
| > I'm glad to hear that things are working correctly for you now.
| >
| > I'd like to make a summary for this post:
| >
| > Issue:
| > =============
| > Join a Vista client to SBS domain, but get error message "The network
path
| > was not found" when run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to
| > view
| > vista's event log
| >
| > Resolutions:
| > =============
| > Manually start the Remote Registry service on Vista client.
| >
| > Please do not hesitate to post in this great newsgroup if you need any
| > assistance in the future. I look forward to working with you again.
| >
| > Thank you and have a nice day,
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > ================================================== ===
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
corresponding
| > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
manner.
| > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
| >
| > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
| > the
| > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
are
| > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
newsreader,
| > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
| > issue.
| >
| > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
| > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
| > doing
| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > ================================================== ===
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| >
| > --------------------
| > | From: "POP" <>
| > | References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
| > <>
| > <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
| > | In-Reply-To: <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
| > | Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
| > | Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:16:21 +0100
| > | Lines: 187
| > | Message-ID: <919A1ADA-3C5E-436B-9DD5->
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| > | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > |
| > | Hi Duncan... you hit the nail on the head... that was the issue we
found
| > and
| > | we are back in our labs to see if this is due to vista joining the
| > domain
| > | before the patches came out for vista / sbs2003 or is the default
| > settings
| > | on vista.
| > |
| > | Terence, thank you for your comprehensive post but we found the issue
| > was
| > | solved by what Duncan mentioned, even though performance and logs is
| > | presented with 'The operating system is newer than this (server) this
| > | operation is not available'.... ;-)
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "Duncan Collier" <> wrote in
| > message
| > | news:22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746-...
| > | > POP,
| > | >
| > | > Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to "Automatic"
| > startup
| > | > on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC then
you
| > | > should
| > | > find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely.
Obviously
| > if
| > | > this
| > | > is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your Vista
| > clients
| > | > accordingly.
| > | >
| > | > Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security concern,
if
| > | > anyone
| > | > has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote registry
| > | > service
| > | > I'd be interested to hear them...
| > | >
| > | > "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | >
| > | >> Hello POP,
| > | >>
| > | >> Thank you for posting here.
| > | >>
| > | >> According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista
| > client
| > | >> to
| > | >> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not
| > found"
| > | >> when
| > | >> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view vista's
| > event
| > | >> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate to
| > let
| > me
| > | >> know.
| > | >>
| > | >> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is still
| > has
| > | >> some
| > | >> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following
steps
| > to
| > | >> see
| > | >> if we can resolve this issue:
| > | >>
| > | >> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
| > | >> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and
| > Outlook
| > | >> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
| > | >>
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
| > | >> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
| > | >>
| > | >> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
| > | >>
| > | >> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
| > | >>
| > | >> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a
| > computer
| > | >> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
| > | >>
| > | >> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the
| > wizard
| > | >> to
| > | >> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
| > | >>
| > | >> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on
Vista.
| > | >> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
| > | >>
| > | >> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try
to
| > | >> disable them and have a test.
| > | >>
| > | >> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then
test
| > this
| > | >> issue.
| > | >>
| > | >> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps,
| > please
| > | >> kindly help me collect some information for further investigation:
| > | >>
| > | >> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
| > | >>
| > | >> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
| > | >>
| > | >> Hope these steps will give you some help.
| > | >>
| > | >> Thanks and have a nice day!
| > | >>
| > | >> Best regards,
| > | >>
| > | >> Terence Liu(MSFT)
| > | >>
| > | >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >>
| > | >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | >>
| > | >> ================================================== ===
| > | >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
| > issues
| > | >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > | >> corresponding
| > | >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| > | >> manner.
| > | >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
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| > | >> |
| > | >> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they
do
| > | >> work.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to
| > connect
| > | >> to
| > | >> | computer, network path not found ?
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc
options
| > but
| > | >> when i
| > | >> | click event viewer get the above error.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
| > | >> | recommendations.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no
| > real
| > | >> issues
| > | >> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection
but
| > | >> thats
| > | >> on
| > | >> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site
also,
| > not
| > | >> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it
will
| > | >> break
| > | >> | something else.)
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
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|

Hi Terence, should of made my self clearer...

In XP and Vista stand alone Remote registry is Manual by default.

As SBS console has manage computers then assume GPO for XP has this switched
on to allow XP remote registry.

SBS Patches add GPO for VISTA but comparing the two (boy what a difference
Vista GPO is to XP...lol) many settings for VISTA GPO does not have the same
as XP, more so the manage computer options. My personal belief is the Vista
GPO has some key elements missing, mistake from Microsoft...lol. We had to
make many changes in GPO to allow manage computers work from SBS console to
Vista.

Thank you for your continued participation in this NG.




"Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-> wrote in message
news:TWAh$...
> Hello POP,
>
> Thank you for kind update.
>
> This is by-design, and it is not an oversight. As we know, the Vista is
> more security than XP, and the Vista system will often be used in laptop
> device, and many users will use Vista at home without join domain.
> Therefore, by default, the Remote Registry service is set to Manual.
> However, when you join the Vista client in Windows 2003 domain, we may use
> this service, so you can manually start it.
>
> When the Vista client join domain, it must be in internal network, started
> Remote Registry service will not drop your security level. Please don't
> worry.
>
> Hope the info will give you some help.
>
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Terence Liu(MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
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> | References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
> <>
> <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
> <919A1ADA-3C5E-436B-9DD5->
> <>
> | In-Reply-To: <>
> | Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
> | Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:22:50 +0100
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> |
> | Hi Terence, yes all working now, just added a GPO to start it on all
> Vista.
> |
> | Would be nice to know if this was a security issue and Microsoft turned
> it
> | off... or was it an oversight... ;-) If a security issue some notes
> would
> be
> | great.
> |
> |
> | "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-> wrote in message
> | news:...
> | > Hello POP,
> | >
> | > Thank you very much for sharing your resolution. I appreciate your
> time
> on
> | > this post.
> | >
> | > I'm glad to hear that things are working correctly for you now.
> | >
> | > I'd like to make a summary for this post:
> | >
> | > Issue:
> | > =============
> | > Join a Vista client to SBS domain, but get error message "The network
> path
> | > was not found" when run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to
> | > view
> | > vista's event log
> | >
> | > Resolutions:
> | > =============
> | > Manually start the Remote Registry service on Vista client.
> | >
> | > Please do not hesitate to post in this great newsgroup if you need any
> | > assistance in the future. I look forward to working with you again.
> | >
> | > Thank you and have a nice day,
> | >
> | > Best regards,
> | >
> | > Terence Liu(MSFT)
> | >
> | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | >
> | > ================================================== ===
> | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
> issues
> | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> corresponding
> | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
> manner.
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> | >
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> | >
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> we
> | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> | > doing
> | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
> | >
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> Please
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> | > | From: "POP" <>
> | > | References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
> | > <>
> | > <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
> | > | In-Reply-To: <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
> | > | Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
> | > | Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:16:21 +0100
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> | > |
> | > | Hi Duncan... you hit the nail on the head... that was the issue we
> found
> | > and
> | > | we are back in our labs to see if this is due to vista joining the
> | > domain
> | > | before the patches came out for vista / sbs2003 or is the default
> | > settings
> | > | on vista.
> | > |
> | > | Terence, thank you for your comprehensive post but we found the
> issue
> | > was
> | > | solved by what Duncan mentioned, even though performance and logs is
> | > | presented with 'The operating system is newer than this (server)
> this
> | > | operation is not available'.... ;-)
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "Duncan Collier" <> wrote in
> | > message
> | > | news:22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746-...
> | > | > POP,
> | > | >
> | > | > Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to "Automatic"
> | > startup
> | > | > on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC then
> you
> | > | > should
> | > | > find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely.
> Obviously
> | > if
> | > | > this
> | > | > is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your Vista
> | > clients
> | > | > accordingly.
> | > | >
> | > | > Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security concern,
> if
> | > | > anyone
> | > | > has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote
> registry
> | > | > service
> | > | > I'd be interested to hear them...
> | > | >
> | > | > "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | >> Hello POP,
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Thank you for posting here.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> According to your description, I understand that you join a Vista
> | > client
> | > | >> to
> | > | >> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not
> | > found"
> | > | >> when
> | > | >> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view
> vista's
> | > event
> | > | >> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't hesitate
> to
> | > let
> | > me
> | > | >> know.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is
> still
> | > has
> | > | >> some
> | > | >> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following
> steps
> | > to
> | > | >> see
> | > | >> if we can resolve this issue:
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
> | > | >> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and
> | > Outlook
> | > | >> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
> | > | >>
> | >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
> | > | >> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
> | > | >>
> | > | >> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
> | > | >>
> | > | >> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a
> | > computer
> | > | >> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run the
> | > wizard
> | > | >> to
> | > | >> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on
> Vista.
> | > | >> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease try
> to
> | > | >> disable them and have a test.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then
> test
> | > this
> | > | >> issue.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above steps,
> | > please
> | > | >> kindly help me collect some information for further
> investigation:
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
> | > | >>
> | > | >> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Hope these steps will give you some help.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Thanks and have a nice day!
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Best regards,
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Terence Liu(MSFT)
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | > | >>
> | > | >> ================================================== ===
> | > | >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
> | > issues
> | > | >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> | > | >> corresponding
> | > | >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and
> timely
> | > | >> manner.
> | > | >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> | > | >>
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> Although
> | > we
> | > | >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you
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> directly.
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> | > | >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
> | > numbers.
> | > | >>
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> | > | >> --------------------
> | > | >> | From: "POP" <>
> | > | >> | Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
> | > | >> | Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
> | > | >> | Lines: 24
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> <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
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> | > | >> | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1
> | > | >> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP they
> do
> | > | >> work.
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable to
> | > connect
> | > | >> to
> | > | >> | computer, network path not found ?
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc
> options
> | > but
> | > | >> when i
> | > | >> | click event viewer get the above error.
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
> | > | >> | recommendations.
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-), no
> | > real
> | > | >> issues
> | > | >> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one connection
> but
> | > | >> thats
> | > | >> on
> | > | >> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site
> also,
> | > not
> | > | >> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared it
> will
> | > | >> break
> | > | >> | something else.)
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> |
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> |
> |
>

Hello POP,

Thank you for your reply.

In newsgroup, we only handle the technology issue. For why the Vista be
designed like this, we do not know very clearly. Maybe there will be some
update for this in further, but I'm not sure.

Meanwhile, the Vista is designed for the client OS for Longhorn (Windows
server 2008), maybe this is the root cause of why there are so many
different between XP.

I understand that this limitation may inconvenience our users and we
apologize for the inconvenience you faced. In our efforts to continue to
improve our products, you are welcome to add your suggestions in
Partnerfeedback newsgroup to make Microsoft products easier and more
powerful to use. Thanks for your understanding.

Submitting suggestions for product enhancement:

Legitimate Wishes fit into the following guidelines:

Enhancement or feature addition to existing Microsoft products
Reproducible problem or bug with current version that needs resolution
Cannot find documentation of feature within the help files
Difficulty using the product
All beta products
Product packaging complaints
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These can be submitted here:

https://support.microsoft.com/common...14&showpage=1&
WS=Wish&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.microsoft.com%2firela nd%2fcontact%2f

Thanks and have a nice day!

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Hi Terence, should of made my self clearer...
|
| In XP and Vista stand alone Remote registry is Manual by default.
|
| As SBS console has manage computers then assume GPO for XP has this
switched
| on to allow XP remote registry.
|
| SBS Patches add GPO for VISTA but comparing the two (boy what a
difference
| Vista GPO is to XP...lol) many settings for VISTA GPO does not have the
same
| as XP, more so the manage computer options. My personal belief is the
Vista
| GPO has some key elements missing, mistake from Microsoft...lol. We had
to
| make many changes in GPO to allow manage computers work from SBS console
to
| Vista.
|
| Thank you for your continued participation in this NG.
|
|
|
|
| "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-> wrote in message
| news:TWAh$...
| > Hello POP,
| >
| > Thank you for kind update.
| >
| > This is by-design, and it is not an oversight. As we know, the Vista is
| > more security than XP, and the Vista system will often be used in laptop
| > device, and many users will use Vista at home without join domain.
| > Therefore, by default, the Remote Registry service is set to Manual.
| > However, when you join the Vista client in Windows 2003 domain, we may
use
| > this service, so you can manually start it.
| >
| > When the Vista client join domain, it must be in internal network,
started
| > Remote Registry service will not drop your security level. Please don't
| > worry.
| >
| > Hope the info will give you some help.
| >
| > Thanks and have a nice day!
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > ================================================== ===
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| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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| >
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| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
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| > | From: "POP" <>
| > | References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
| > <>
| > <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
| > <919A1ADA-3C5E-436B-9DD5->
| > <>
| > | In-Reply-To: <>
| > | Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
| > | Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:22:50 +0100
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| > | Hi Terence, yes all working now, just added a GPO to start it on all
| > Vista.
| > |
| > | Would be nice to know if this was a security issue and Microsoft
turned
| > it
| > | off... or was it an oversight... ;-) If a security issue some notes
| > would
| > be
| > | great.
| > |
| > |
| > | "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-> wrote in message
| > | news:...
| > | > Hello POP,
| > | >
| > | > Thank you very much for sharing your resolution. I appreciate your
| > time
| > on
| > | > this post.
| > | >
| > | > I'm glad to hear that things are working correctly for you now.
| > | >
| > | > I'd like to make a summary for this post:
| > | >
| > | > Issue:
| > | > =============
| > | > Join a Vista client to SBS domain, but get error message "The
network
| > path
| > | > was not found" when run the Manage computer option from SBS Console
to
| > | > view
| > | > vista's event log
| > | >
| > | > Resolutions:
| > | > =============
| > | > Manually start the Remote Registry service on Vista client.
| > | >
| > | > Please do not hesitate to post in this great newsgroup if you need
any
| > | > assistance in the future. I look forward to working with you again.
| > | >
| > | > Thank you and have a nice day,
| > | >
| > | > Best regards,
| > | >
| > | > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | >
| > | > ================================================== ===
| > | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
| > issues
| > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > corresponding
| > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| > manner.
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| > | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
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| > | > issue.
| > | >
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| > we
| > | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
| > | > doing
| > | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| > | >
| > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| > Please
| > | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
| > | >
| > | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
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| > | >
| > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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| > | > --------------------
| > | > | From: "POP" <>
| > | > | References: <FD76E2A9-2F43-4441-B8F1->
| > | > <>
| > | > <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
| > | > | In-Reply-To: <22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746->
| > | > | Subject: Re: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
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| > | > | Hi Duncan... you hit the nail on the head... that was the issue we
| > found
| > | > and
| > | > | we are back in our labs to see if this is due to vista joining the
| > | > domain
| > | > | before the patches came out for vista / sbs2003 or is the default
| > | > settings
| > | > | on vista.
| > | > |
| > | > | Terence, thank you for your comprehensive post but we found the
| > issue
| > | > was
| > | > | solved by what Duncan mentioned, even though performance and logs
is
| > | > | presented with 'The operating system is newer than this (server)
| > this
| > | > | operation is not available'.... ;-)
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "Duncan Collier" <> wrote
in
| > | > message
| > | > | news:22D14FFC-A21C-4C28-9746-...
| > | > | > POP,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Unlike XP, the "Remote Registry" service is not set to
"Automatic"
| > | > startup
| > | > | > on Vista. If you start the service manually on the target PC
then
| > you
| > | > | > should
| > | > | > find that you are able to use Computer Management remotely.
| > Obviously
| > | > if
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > is an ongoing requirement you will need to reconfigure your
Vista
| > | > clients
| > | > | > accordingly.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Presumably MS have changed this as a result of a security
concern,
| > if
| > | > | > anyone
| > | > | > has any thoughts on "best practice" in handling the remote
| > registry
| > | > | > service
| > | > | > I'd be interested to hear them...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Terence Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | >
| > | > | >> Hello POP,
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Thank you for posting here.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> According to your description, I understand that you join a
Vista
| > | > client
| > | > | >> to
| > | > | >> SBS domain, but you get error message "The network path was not
| > | > found"
| > | > | >> when
| > | > | >> you run the Manage computer option from SBS Console to view
| > vista's
| > | > event
| > | > | >> log. If I have misunderstood the problem, please don't
hesitate
| > to
| > | > let
| > | > me
| > | > | >> know.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Based on my research, the Vista is a new client OS and it is
| > still
| > | > has
| > | > | >> some
| > | > | >> compatible issue with SBS 2003. I suggest we try the following
| > steps
| > | > to
| > | > | >> see
| > | > | >> if we can resolve this issue:
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 1. Please install the following hotfix on SBS:
| > | > | >> Update for Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista
and
| > | > Outlook
| > | > | >> 2007 compatibility (KB 926505)
| > | > | >>
| > | >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1E4-1B2C-471B-
| > | > | >> A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 2. Please ensure you have correct join vista to SBS domain
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> a. On SBS, open Server Management console->Client Computers
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> b. Click Set Up Client Computer link in right panel, create a
| > | > computer
| > | > | >> account in SBS domain for Vista client.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> c. On Vista, access the http://SBSname/connectcomputer/, run
the
| > | > wizard
| > | > | >> to
| > | > | >> join the Vista client to SBS domain.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 3. If the issue persists, please check the IP configuration on
| > Vista.
| > | > | >> Please ensure the Vista is a DHCP client and get IP from SBS.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 4. Do you install some 3rd-party software on the Vista? Pease
try
| > to
| > | > | >> disable them and have a test.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 5. Please try to disable the windows firewall on vista and then
| > test
| > | > this
| > | > | >> issue.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> If we can not resolve the issue after we perform the above
steps,
| > | > please
| > | > | >> kindly help me collect some information for further
| > investigation:
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 1. Can you access Vista share folder from SBS?
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> 2. Do you get any error message on the SBS or Vista?
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Hope these steps will give you some help.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Thanks and have a nice day!
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Best regards,
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Terence Liu(MSFT)
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> ================================================== ===
| > | > | >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you
have
| > | > issues
| > | > | >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > | > | >> corresponding
| > | > | >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and
| > timely
| > | > | >> manner.
| > | > | >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > | >>
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend
you
| > | > check
| > | > | >> the
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| > there
| > | > are
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| > | > newsreader,
| > | > | >> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit
from
| > | > your
| > | > | >> issue.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
| > Although
| > | > we
| > | > | >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you
| > post
| > | > | >> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread
| > clean.
| > In
| > | > | >> doing
| > | > | >> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS
| > directly.
| > | > Please
| > | > | >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
| > | > numbers.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > | > | >> ================================================== ===
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers
| > no
| > | > | >> rights.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> --------------------
| > | > | >> | From: "POP" <>
| > | > | >> | Subject: Vista - Manage computer option from SBS COnsole
| > | > | >> | Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:27:59 +0100
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| > | > | >> | Im finding many of the options do not work, where as in XP
they
| > do
| > | > | >> work.
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> | Maybe its the increased security in Vista.
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> | Most important aspect is the event viewer part. I get unable
to
| > | > connect
| > | > | >> to
| > | > | >> | computer, network path not found ?
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> | Computer management works ok and am presented with the pc
| > options
| > | > but
| > | > | >> when i
| > | > | >> | click event viewer get the above error.
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> | Anyone supporting Vista (lol), can you try and anyone got any
| > | > | >> | recommendations.
| > | > | >> |
| > | > | >> | Yep all patches for 2003 / vista applied.... even SP2...;-),
no
| > | > real
| > | > | >> issues
| > | > | >> | at this site except VPN will not allow more than one
connection
| > but
| > | > | >> thats
| > | > | >> on
| > | > | >> | a wishlist for later (have found this issue on another site
| > also,
| > | > not
| > | > | >> | applied the VPN patches as that seems a bit much and scared
it
| > will
| > | > | >> break
| > | > | >> | something else.)
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