For Vista - Management of MS Security Update Backups

In windows XP Pro, when MS Security updates are downloaded and installed,
there are backups placed in the C:\windows folder. After a few days when
not having any trouble with the updates, I use the "Remove Hotfix Backup"
(Doug's XP Utilities) to remove the backups. In Vista, do you have the same
type of update backups being placed in the windows folder, and if so, how
does one remove them? Can Doug's XP Utility be use in Vista? Thanks for
any help, Sam.

cf. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=951181
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Sam wrote:
> In windows XP Pro, when MS Security updates are downloaded and installed,
> there are backups placed in the C:\windows folder. After a few days when
> not having any trouble with the updates, I use the "Remove Hotfix Backup"
> (Doug's XP Utilities) to remove the backups. In Vista, do you have the
> same
> type of update backups being placed in the windows folder, and if so, how
> does one remove them? Can Doug's XP Utility be use in Vista? Thanks for
> any help, Sam.

Many thanks for your reply and information. Sorry, I was not too clear in
my original post. If I understand it correctly, when we download and
install hotfixes and updates for windows XP Pro, the OS makes a backup of
the applicable files being replaced and place them in the windows folder.
If the newly installed hotfix or update becomes a problem, then you can
click on the applicable backup file in the windows folder to return to the
existing status before the update(s) install. If this is the case, how does
one remove these backups if the new hotfix or upgrade works okay. Any
further help would be very much appreciated, Sam.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> cf. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=951181
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Sam wrote:
>> In windows XP Pro, when MS Security updates are downloaded and installed,
>> there are backups placed in the C:\windows folder. After a few days when
>> not having any trouble with the updates, I use the "Remove Hotfix Backup"
>> (Doug's XP Utilities) to remove the backups. In Vista, do you have the
>> same
>> type of update backups being placed in the windows folder, and if so, how
>> does one remove them? Can Doug's XP Utility be use in Vista? Thanks for
>> any help, Sam.
>

Sam, Vista works different from XP. I havent found the uninstall files in
Vista, so answer for now, leave it until there is more information.

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TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008

"Sam" <scams@Remove This att.net> wrote in message
news:0Q5Tj.2020$ ...
> Many thanks for your reply and information. Sorry, I was not too clear
> in my original post. If I understand it correctly, when we download and
> install hotfixes and updates for windows XP Pro, the OS makes a backup of
> the applicable files being replaced and place them in the windows folder.
> If the newly installed hotfix or update becomes a problem, then you can
> click on the applicable backup file in the windows folder to return to the
> existing status before the update(s) install. If this is the case, how
> does one remove these backups if the new hotfix or upgrade works okay.
> Any further help would be very much appreciated, Sam.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> cf. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=951181
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> Sam wrote:
>>> In windows XP Pro, when MS Security updates are downloaded and
>>> installed,
>>> there are backups placed in the C:\windows folder. After a few days
>>> when
>>> not having any trouble with the updates, I use the "Remove Hotfix
>>> Backup"
>>> (Doug's XP Utilities) to remove the backups. In Vista, do you have the
>>> same
>>> type of update backups being placed in the windows folder, and if so,
>>> how
>>> does one remove them? Can Doug's XP Utility be use in Vista? Thanks
>>> for
>>> any help, Sam.
>>
>
>

You asked about Vista, not WinXP, Sam. Hotfixes and updates are not managed
(by Windows) the same way in Vista and WinXP.

In any Windows version: If you've installed a hotfix or update, it can be
uninstalled, and you wish to return the machine to the state it was in
before installing the hotfix/update, you would uninstall the hotfix/update
via Add/Remove Programs.

That being said and very generally speaking, the information posted here by
Update Services MVP "Jupiter Jones" applies to Vista and WinXP:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

I would not delete/remove anything unless you're absolutely 100% sure that
you'd never, ever need to uninstall it. Remember the First Rule of
Computing: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

The newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_mainten ance would
probably be a more appropriate venue for this discussion, Sam.


Sam wrote:
> Many thanks for your reply and information. Sorry, I was not too clear
> in
> my original post. If I understand it correctly, when we download and
> install hotfixes and updates for windows XP Pro, the OS makes a backup of
> the applicable files being replaced and place them in the windows folder.
> If the newly installed hotfix or update becomes a problem, then you can
> click on the applicable backup file in the windows folder to return to the
> existing status before the update(s) install. If this is the case, how
> does
> one remove these backups if the new hotfix or upgrade works okay. Any
> further help would be very much appreciated, Sam.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> cf. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=951181
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> Sam wrote:
>>> In windows XP Pro, when MS Security updates are downloaded and
>>> installed,
>>> there are backups placed in the C:\windows folder. After a few days
>>> when
>>> not having any trouble with the updates, I use the "Remove Hotfix
>>> Backup"
>>> (Doug's XP Utilities) to remove the backups. In Vista, do you have the
>>> same
>>> type of update backups being placed in the windows folder, and if so,
>>> how
>>> does one remove them? Can Doug's XP Utility be use in Vista? Thanks
>>> for
>>> any help, Sam.

TaurArian and PA Bear, many thanks for your replies and information.

The reason for my question is that I am trying to prepare for a new Dell
computer (Vista Business Edition). I am planning to purchase it next month.
I have two Vista Books ordered from Amazon and hope they arrive around the
projected date. I want to be at least somewhat familiar with Vista before
my new computer arrives. Have a good week, Sam.

You're welcome, Sam.

If this one's not on your Amazon order, I very highly recommend it:

Windows Vista Security: Securing Vista Against Malicious Attacks
(by Security MVPs Roger A. Grimes and Jesper M. Johansson)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0470101...017941-8528849
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Sam wrote:
> TaurArian and PA Bear, many thanks for your replies and information.
>
> The reason for my question is that I am trying to prepare for a new Dell
> computer (Vista Business Edition). I am planning to purchase it next
> month.
> I have two Vista Books ordered from Amazon and hope they arrive around the
> projected date. I want to be at least somewhat familiar with Vista
> before
> my new computer arrives. Have a good week, Sam.

Many thanks for the book suggestion. Will go to Amazon and make that book
order! Sam


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You're welcome, Sam.
>
> If this one's not on your Amazon order, I very highly recommend it:
>
> Windows Vista Security: Securing Vista Against Malicious Attacks
> (by Security MVPs Roger A. Grimes and Jesper M. Johansson)
> http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0470101...017941-8528849
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Sam wrote:
>> TaurArian and PA Bear, many thanks for your replies and information.
>>
>> The reason for my question is that I am trying to prepare for a new Dell
>> computer (Vista Business Edition). I am planning to purchase it next
>> month.
>> I have two Vista Books ordered from Amazon and hope they arrive around
>> the
>> projected date. I want to be at least somewhat familiar with Vista
>> before
>> my new computer arrives. Have a good week, Sam.
>