VISTA/MESSENGER/ WHAT A NIGHTMARE

I never post here so people be patient with me and sorry for my lack of
literacy last time the only help i got was insults after insults for the fact
that I don't have time or the desire to spend my life here

Ok i had several ussies with vista ok ok !
But what happen last night was the one for the book

Before the forced update this 8.5 version 2008 8.5 1288.816
I had the other beta version and it was working fine well we can say soso
since i got this new version it frezzes with a passion

but last night it really got me worried I was video chating with 2 people
(( a very important chat )) then my connection was totally lost the pc VISTA
LAPTOP is frozen it was like that for 8 minutes they only way to shut it
down was to manually press the power button and force a shut down

then i try to conect to my DSL for 3 hours and i couldn't after 3am and
with ATT on the line i totally give up

I want to blame my camera logitech deluxe for notebooks that i have
installed 6 times because like we all know vista is the worst to get other
programs or software to work

I want to blame LIVE ONE CARE that turns off the main windows vista firewall

I want to blame vista but I honestly lost my desire to complain about vista
because is useless is just a lost case they never admit anything

I even want to blame ATT for my connection lost (( which in 5 years it has
happen twice and last night was one of those times ))


any suggestions?? help? any words of courage?

"Junior" wrote:

> I never post here so people be patient with me and sorry for my lack of
> literacy last time the only help i got was insults after insults for the fact
> that I don't have time or the desire to spend my life here
>
> Ok i had several ussies with vista ok ok !
> But what happen last night was the one for the book
>
> Before the forced update this 8.5 version 2008 8.5 1288.816
> I had the other beta version and it was working fine well we can say soso
> since i got this new version it frezzes with a passion
>
> but last night it really got me worried I was video chating with 2 people
> (( a very important chat )) then my connection was totally lost the pc VISTA
> LAPTOP is frozen it was like that for 8 minutes they only way to shut it
> down was to manually press the power button and force a shut down
>
> then i try to conect to my DSL for 3 hours and i couldn't after 3am and
> with ATT on the line i totally give up
>
> I want to blame my camera logitech deluxe for notebooks that i have
> installed 6 times because like we all know vista is the worst to get other
> programs or software to work
>
> I want to blame LIVE ONE CARE that turns off the main windows vista firewall
>
> I want to blame vista but I honestly lost my desire to complain about vista
> because is useless is just a lost case they never admit anything
>
> I even want to blame ATT for my connection lost (( which in 5 years it has
> happen twice and last night was one of those times ))
>
>
> any suggestions?? help? any words of courage?
>

"Junior" wrote:

> I never post here so people be patient with me and sorry for my lack of
> literacy last time the only help i got was insults after insults for the fact
> that I don't have time or the desire to spend my life here
>
> Ok i had several ussies with vista ok ok !
> But what happen last night was the one for the book
>
> Before the forced update this 8.5 version 2008 8.5 1288.816
> I had the other beta version and it was working fine well we can say soso
> since i got this new version it frezzes with a passion
>
> but last night it really got me worried I was video chating with 2 people
> (( a very important chat )) then my connection was totally lost the pc VISTA
> LAPTOP is frozen it was like that for 8 minutes they only way to shut it
> down was to manually press the power button and force a shut down
>
> then i try to conect to my DSL for 3 hours and i couldn't after 3am and
> with ATT on the line i totally give up
>
> I want to blame my camera logitech deluxe for notebooks that i have
> installed 6 times because like we all know vista is the worst to get other
> programs or software to work
>
> I want to blame LIVE ONE CARE that turns off the main windows vista firewall
>
> I want to blame vista but I honestly lost my desire to complain about vista
> because is useless is just a lost case they never admit anything
>
> I even want to blame ATT for my connection lost (( which in 5 years it has
> happen twice and last night was one of those times ))
>
>
> any suggestions?? help? any words of courage?
>

By: To activate my msn messenger in Vista

Is this person the new windows defender?

OK but this is a messenger discussion board not an online psychological
support
Relax, man, there are bigger disasters in the world.
Go to Vista forum and have a read. You're not alone.
k.




"Junior" <> wrote in message
news:6D630619-1112-4B0D-BB59-...
> I never post here so people be patient with me and sorry for my lack of
> literacy last time the only help i got was insults after insults for the
> fact
> that I don't have time or the desire to spend my life here
>
> Ok i had several ussies with vista ok ok !
> But what happen last night was the one for the book
>
> Before the forced update this 8.5 version 2008 8.5 1288.816
> I had the other beta version and it was working fine well we can say soso
> since i got this new version it frezzes with a passion
>
> but last night it really got me worried I was video chating with 2 people
> (( a very important chat )) then my connection was totally lost the pc
> VISTA
> LAPTOP is frozen it was like that for 8 minutes they only way to shut it
> down was to manually press the power button and force a shut down
>
> then i try to conect to my DSL for 3 hours and i couldn't after 3am and
> with ATT on the line i totally give up
>
> I want to blame my camera logitech deluxe for notebooks that i have
> installed 6 times because like we all know vista is the worst to get other
> programs or software to work
>
> I want to blame LIVE ONE CARE that turns off the main windows vista
> firewall
>
> I want to blame vista but I honestly lost my desire to complain about
> vista
> because is useless is just a lost case they never admit anything
>
> I even want to blame ATT for my connection lost (( which in 5 years it has
> happen twice and last night was one of those times ))
>
>
> any suggestions?? help? any words of courage?
>

Words of courage ... you are not alone! This is the way it goes with beta
software ... when we run beta, we are testing it to see if it is working ...
there are so many different configurations of computers and the programmers
have nightmares, too, trying to cover it all ... (g)

What is interesting to me is that you were using the latest version ... had
successfully established a video chat ... and it was working for awhile. Did
you have any delays or trouble establishing the chat session? Or did it work
fine and then all of a sudden go south on you?

If you prevent this particular version of Messenger from starting up, can
you get back out to the internet through your DSL connection? Or is that
still messed up, even with Messenger not running/disabled/uninstalled?

Do you have any relevant entries in the Event Log Viewer? Does your firewall
report anything in its logs around the time of the freeze? Did Defender
start up to update or run a scan? Or your antivirus? Or any other software
that runs a scheduled task? What about your IP lease? Did it release and
renew about that time? (Don't know if this applies to a DSL connection ...)

If you just want to dispense with troubleshooting, you could uninstall this
latest beta that is not working with your laptop configuration and then try
the next beta release when it comes out ... or wait for the final release
....

good luck ... Vista users understand frustration (g) ... I certainly reached
my breaking point a few weeks ago after fighting with Vista since late
January ...

I was reminded of this in a recent post I read elsewhere: ... XP has been
in Service Pack 2 for so long, perhaps we have forgotten all the things that
broke when XP first came out ... vanilla


"Junior" <> wrote in message
news:6D630619-1112-4B0D-BB59-...
>I never post here so people be patient with me and sorry for my lack of
> literacy last time the only help i got was insults after insults for the
> fact
> that I don't have time or the desire to spend my life here
>
> Ok i had several ussies with vista ok ok !
> But what happen last night was the one for the book
>
> Before the forced update this 8.5 version 2008 8.5 1288.816
> I had the other beta version and it was working fine well we can say soso
> since i got this new version it frezzes with a passion
>
> but last night it really got me worried I was video chating with 2 people
> (( a very important chat )) then my connection was totally lost the pc
> VISTA
> LAPTOP is frozen it was like that for 8 minutes they only way to shut it
> down was to manually press the power button and force a shut down
>
> then i try to conect to my DSL for 3 hours and i couldn't after 3am and
> with ATT on the line i totally give up
>
> I want to blame my camera logitech deluxe for notebooks that i have
> installed 6 times because like we all know vista is the worst to get other
> programs or software to work
>
> I want to blame LIVE ONE CARE that turns off the main windows vista
> firewall
>
> I want to blame vista but I honestly lost my desire to complain about
> vista
> because is useless is just a lost case they never admit anything
>
> I even want to blame ATT for my connection lost (( which in 5 years it has
> happen twice and last night was one of those times ))
>
>
> any suggestions?? help? any words of courage?
>

"vanilla" wrote:

> Words of courage ... you are not alone! This is the way it goes with beta
> software ...


------- I know that but this is the lastest official Messenger !! with the
previous well
Vista came with a messenger ----- well that one was fine ----6 months ago I
got the 1 beta --------3 months ago i got the other new beta ------------ and
2 weeks ago I got the official version ---------- this last one is not
working for me 100%
like it should --------- (( to be honest I have not use my $100.00 worthless
webcam lately ))I have been chating normally no problems I think I really
think it might be my WEBCAM I'am not sure ! I'm still doing the investigation



when we run beta, we are testing it to see if it is working ...
> there are so many different configurations of computers and the programmers
> have nightmares, too, trying to cover it all ... (g)
>

I know



> What is interesting to me is that you were using the latest version ... had
> successfully established a video chat ...

------ yeah


and it was working for awhile. Did
> you have any delays or trouble establishing the chat session? Or did it work
> fine and then all of a sudden go south on you?

---- well at the beginning no problem -- after 10 minutes is when i see the
problem


> If you prevent this particular version of Messenger from starting up, can
> you get back out to the internet through your DSL connection?Or is that
> still messed up, even with Messenger not running/disabled/uninstalled?

------------- no problem with that


> Do you have any relevant entries in the Event Log Viewer? Does your firewall
> report anything in its logs around the time of the freeze?

------------------ well I have LOC -live one care and LOC did not show up
any attacks or anything ----- the only report or log i see is the problem
report solutions always reporting the problem with messenger to micro


Did Defender
> start up to update or run a scan? Or your antivirus? Or any other software
> that runs a scheduled task?

--------no


What about your IP lease? Did it release and
> renew about that time? (Don't know if this applies to a DSL connection ...)

---------- well with att , vista and with my moden I have never been able to
get a new IP so the answer is no

>
> If you just want to dispense with troubleshooting, you could uninstall this
> latest beta that is not working with your laptop configuration and then try
> the next beta release when it comes out ... or wait for the final release

--------------- I don't get it don't this is the lastest? the people on the
blog says so
http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/

>
> good luck ... Vista users understand frustration (g) ... I certainly reached
> my breaking point a few weeks ago after fighting with Vista since late
> January ...


---------------- thanks man YOU and this
clown>>>>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=HELrxLdP85c <<<<<<< give me hope


>
> I was reminded of this in a recent post I read elsewhere: ... XP has been
> in Service Pack 2 for so long, perhaps we have forgotten all the things that
> broke when XP first came out ... vanilla
>

RIGHT
and Thanks vanilla


> "Junior" <> wrote in message
> news:6D630619-1112-4B0D-BB59-...
> >I never post here so people be patient with me and sorry for my lack of
> > literacy last time the only help i got was insults after insults for the
> > fact
> > that I don't have time or the desire to spend my life here
> >
> > Ok i had several ussies with vista ok ok !
> > But what happen last night was the one for the book
> >
> > Before the forced update this 8.5 version 2008 8.5 1288.816
> > I had the other beta version and it was working fine well we can say soso
> > since i got this new version it frezzes with a passion
> >
> > but last night it really got me worried I was video chating with 2 people
> > (( a very important chat )) then my connection was totally lost the pc
> > VISTA
> > LAPTOP is frozen it was like that for 8 minutes they only way to shut it
> > down was to manually press the power button and force a shut down
> >
> > then i try to conect to my DSL for 3 hours and i couldn't after 3am and
> > with ATT on the line i totally give up
> >
> > I want to blame my camera logitech deluxe for notebooks that i have
> > installed 6 times because like we all know vista is the worst to get other
> > programs or software to work
> >
> > I want to blame LIVE ONE CARE that turns off the main windows vista
> > firewall
> >
> > I want to blame vista but I honestly lost my desire to complain about
> > vista
> > because is useless is just a lost case they never admit anything
> >
> > I even want to blame ATT for my connection lost (( which in 5 years it has
> > happen twice and last night was one of those times ))
> >
> >
> > any suggestions?? help? any words of courage?
> >
>
>