Vista - Need to Re-Install applications ?

I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners and
other hard drives both internal and USB
Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc. need
to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
partition?
--
Dave of Newberg

No, the apps need to be installed on Vista, so the Vista registry has the
correct settings. The data from the other drive will be accessible.

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"Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
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> I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
> I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
> Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
> When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
> designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners and
> other hard drives both internal and USB
> Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
> Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
> need
> to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
> partition?
> --
> Dave of Newberg

Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or perhaps as C:,
since it is booting from there. You can change drive letter assignments in
XP using Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk
Management if it helps to keep things sane for you.

Your programs will need to be installed afresh to the Vista partition and
you may need to purchase additional licenses for some of them, especially
Office. This is considered another installation of the program, even though
to you and me it is still on the same computer. If Office gives you trouble
activating it, you can argue with the Microsoft phone support people over
this point. You could install Office to one location on your local computer
and treat it as if it were a shared network install, but then again I am
afraid Microsoft will insist that you have a volume or site license to do
this. If you decide to try this look through the Microsoft knowledge base
for instructions. The install in this case is different from a one computer
install.

It would be theoretically possible to install the programs in Vista, to the
same location where they are already installed in XP. I have tried this
with earlier versions of Windows and it led to problems. Windows 2000
supported two or more copies of Windows on the same HD, all working with the
same "Program Files" folder, but it is just not a good idea, especially with
different versions of the operating system, which you plan to have. You
really do need to keep most things separate. Your Documents folder is
another matter. You won't get into too much trouble having that in common.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
news:270B646C-E81E-4BDA-BF94-...
> I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
> I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
> Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
> When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
> designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners and
> other hard drives both internal and USB
> Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
> Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
> need
> to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
> partition?
> --
> Dave of Newberg

Should applications be allowed to continue to reside on C drive then be
reinstalled to Vista partition - What of application installed to external
USB hard drives?
Thank you.
--
Dave of Newberg


"Mark L. Ferguson" wrote:

> No, the apps need to be installed on Vista, so the Vista registry has the
> correct settings. The data from the other drive will be accessible.
>
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>
> "Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
> news:270B646C-E81E-4BDA-BF94-...
> > I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
> > I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
> > Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
> > When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
> > designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners and
> > other hard drives both internal and USB
> > Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
> > Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
> > need
> > to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
> > partition?
> > --
> > Dave of Newberg
>

It's not really a question of location for the files. Whatever the app setup
allows will work fine. It's the registry, and its path entries in the
registry that the reinstall has to do.
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"Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
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> Should applications be allowed to continue to reside on C drive then be
> reinstalled to Vista partition - What of application installed to external
> USB hard drives?
> Thank you.
> --
> Dave of Newberg
>
>
> "Mark L. Ferguson" wrote:
>
>> No, the apps need to be installed on Vista, so the Vista registry has the
>> correct settings. The data from the other drive will be accessible.
>>
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>>
>> "Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in
>> message
>> news:270B646C-E81E-4BDA-BF94-...
>> > I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
>> > I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
>> > Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
>> > When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive
>> > letter
>> > designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners
>> > and
>> > other hard drives both internal and USB
>> > Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
>> > Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
>> > need
>> > to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first
>> > (XP)
>> > partition?
>> > --
>> > Dave of Newberg
>>

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:36:00 -0700, Dave of Newberg
<> wrote:

> I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
> I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
> Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
> When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
> designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners and
> other hard drives both internal and USB
> Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
> Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc. need
> to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
> partition?


With the exception of a very occasional small self-contained program,
all programs have many supporting files and references to where they
are installed within the Windows folder, in the registry and
elsewhere. That means that you can not run a program unless you are
booted to the copy of Windows under which it was installed.

So if you want to run the programs installed under XP, you either need
to boot to XP to run them, or else reinstall them under Vista.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

You state that Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or
perhaps as C: since it is booting from there.

You further state:
You can change drive letter assignmet in XP using Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management if it helps to
keep things sane for you.

But what of applications already installed under XP with their respective
entries in XP registry?
Many of my applications are installed onto external USB hard drives.

My current system:
c: (NTFS on drive 2) 172.98 GB 154.96 GB free
d: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A [DVD-RW drive]
e: (NTFS on drive 0) 203.92 GB 202.93 GB free
f: (NTFS on drive 1) 203.92 GB 196.30 GB free
g: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L USB Device [DVD-RAM drive]
h: (NTFS on drive 4) 500.11 GB 449.92 GB free
i: (NTFS on drive 5) 400.09 GB 375.33 GB free
j: (NTFS on drive 2) 147.09 GB 147.02 GB free
k: (NTFS on drive 3) 500.11 GB 387.04 GB free
l: (NTFS on drive 6) 750.15 GB 687.81 GB free

Drives:
e: & f: - On SATA controller
h: i: k: l: - External USB hard drives

c: is partitioned/split into 2 as:
c: - XP Professional SP2
j: - Partition set aside as location to install Vista


Dave of Newberg


"Earle Horton" wrote:

> Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or perhaps as C:,
> since it is booting from there. You can change drive letter assignments in
> XP using Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk
> Management if it helps to keep things sane for you.
>
> Your programs will need to be installed afresh to the Vista partition and
> you may need to purchase additional licenses for some of them, especially
> Office. This is considered another installation of the program, even though
> to you and me it is still on the same computer. If Office gives you trouble
> activating it, you can argue with the Microsoft phone support people over
> this point. You could install Office to one location on your local computer
> and treat it as if it were a shared network install, but then again I am
> afraid Microsoft will insist that you have a volume or site license to do
> this. If you decide to try this look through the Microsoft knowledge base
> for instructions. The install in this case is different from a one computer
> install.
>
> It would be theoretically possible to install the programs in Vista, to the
> same location where they are already installed in XP. I have tried this
> with earlier versions of Windows and it led to problems. Windows 2000
> supported two or more copies of Windows on the same HD, all working with the
> same "Program Files" folder, but it is just not a good idea, especially with
> different versions of the operating system, which you plan to have. You
> really do need to keep most things separate. Your Documents folder is
> another matter. You won't get into too much trouble having that in common.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
> news:270B646C-E81E-4BDA-BF94-...
> > I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
> > I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
> > Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
> > When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
> > designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners and
> > other hard drives both internal and USB
> > Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
> > Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
> > need
> > to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
> > partition?
> > --
> > Dave of Newberg
>

All true but you can run Office, for example, from a shared installation
directory like the network administrators do. The college where I take
classes for example has Office installed on a file server somewhere, but I
can run it from any campus computer. What is installed on each computer, or
in this case each operating system, are the registry entries and local
configuration files you are talking about, and these are quite small in
comparison with the application files. The same technique is used for RPL
or network boot of an operating system. This is generally considered
network administrator stuff and an individual user might not want to do it
or even know about it, but you never know. What I am talking about, is
similar to running Office from CD, but here the CD is copied to some hard
drive location.

Earle

"Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:36:00 -0700, Dave of Newberg
> <> wrote:
>
>> I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
>> I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
>> Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
>> When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive letter
>> designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners
>> and
>> other hard drives both internal and USB
>> Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
>> Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
>> need
>> to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first (XP)
>> partition?
>
>
> With the exception of a very occasional small self-contained program,
> all programs have many supporting files and references to where they
> are installed within the Windows folder, in the registry and
> elsewhere. That means that you can not run a program unless you are
> booted to the copy of Windows under which it was installed.
>
> So if you want to run the programs installed under XP, you either need
> to boot to XP to run them, or else reinstall them under Vista.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

That's a lot of drives. What you mention is precisely why you need to have
multiple installations of each application, one for each operating system
you plan to boot. You can change drive letter assignments for any drive
that is not the boot or system partition, but applications tend to store
absolute path names in their configuration files and registry entries.
Looking at your drive/partition configuration I cannot predict what letter
Vista will assign to its system or install partition, but it will probably
not be J:. That would be too easy. In addition, the order in which Vista
loads partitions at boot time will be different from what you have in XP,
because it needs to access its own system partition early on. You may be
able to change drive letter assignments in Vista so that they agree more or
less with what you already have in XP, but this is going to be complicated.

Earle

"Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
news:31CEEEAD-8A00-4227-AFEC-...
> You state that Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or
> perhaps as C: since it is booting from there.
>
> You further state:
> You can change drive letter assignmet in XP using Control Panel,
> Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management if it helps to
> keep things sane for you.
>
> But what of applications already installed under XP with their respective
> entries in XP registry?
> Many of my applications are installed onto external USB hard drives.
>
> My current system:
> c: (NTFS on drive 2) 172.98 GB 154.96 GB free
> d: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A [DVD-RW drive]
> e: (NTFS on drive 0) 203.92 GB 202.93 GB free
> f: (NTFS on drive 1) 203.92 GB 196.30 GB free
> g: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L USB Device [DVD-RAM drive]
> h: (NTFS on drive 4) 500.11 GB 449.92 GB free
> i: (NTFS on drive 5) 400.09 GB 375.33 GB free
> j: (NTFS on drive 2) 147.09 GB 147.02 GB free
> k: (NTFS on drive 3) 500.11 GB 387.04 GB free
> l: (NTFS on drive 6) 750.15 GB 687.81 GB free
>
> Drives:
> e: & f: - On SATA controller
> h: i: k: l: - External USB hard drives
>
> c: is partitioned/split into 2 as:
> c: - XP Professional SP2
> j: - Partition set aside as location to install Vista
>
>
> Dave of Newberg
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote:
>
>> Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or perhaps as C:,
>> since it is booting from there. You can change drive letter assignments
>> in
>> XP using Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk
>> Management if it helps to keep things sane for you.
>>
>> Your programs will need to be installed afresh to the Vista partition and
>> you may need to purchase additional licenses for some of them, especially
>> Office. This is considered another installation of the program, even
>> though
>> to you and me it is still on the same computer. If Office gives you
>> trouble
>> activating it, you can argue with the Microsoft phone support people over
>> this point. You could install Office to one location on your local
>> computer
>> and treat it as if it were a shared network install, but then again I am
>> afraid Microsoft will insist that you have a volume or site license to do
>> this. If you decide to try this look through the Microsoft knowledge
>> base
>> for instructions. The install in this case is different from a one
>> computer
>> install.
>>
>> It would be theoretically possible to install the programs in Vista, to
>> the
>> same location where they are already installed in XP. I have tried this
>> with earlier versions of Windows and it led to problems. Windows 2000
>> supported two or more copies of Windows on the same HD, all working with
>> the
>> same "Program Files" folder, but it is just not a good idea, especially
>> with
>> different versions of the operating system, which you plan to have. You
>> really do need to keep most things separate. Your Documents folder is
>> another matter. You won't get into too much trouble having that in
>> common.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in
>> message
>> news:270B646C-E81E-4BDA-BF94-...
>> > I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
>> > I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
>> > Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
>> > When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive
>> > letter
>> > designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners
>> > and
>> > other hard drives both internal and USB
>> > Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
>> > Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
>> > need
>> > to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first
>> > (XP)
>> > partition?
>> > --
>> > Dave of Newberg
>>

theI know XP cannot see Vista but can Vista see XP?

So you would think I have the monumental task of multiple installs after
puting
Vista on and that Vista may set up drive letter assignments to it's liking?

In that case I may need to remember where applications were installed in XP.
I know certain items were installed to certain of my USB hard drives.
I can then reinstall to same location just in case Vista does change drive
letters
or MUST They be installed to the Vista partition???

--
Dave of Newberg


"Earle Horton" wrote:

> That's a lot of drives. What you mention is precisely why you need to have
> multiple installations of each application, one for each operating system
> you plan to boot. You can change drive letter assignments for any drive
> that is not the boot or system partition, but applications tend to store
> absolute path names in their configuration files and registry entries.
> Looking at your drive/partition configuration I cannot predict what letter
> Vista will assign to its system or install partition, but it will probably
> not be J:. That would be too easy. In addition, the order in which Vista
> loads partitions at boot time will be different from what you have in XP,
> because it needs to access its own system partition early on. You may be
> able to change drive letter assignments in Vista so that they agree more or
> less with what you already have in XP, but this is going to be complicated.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in message
> news:31CEEEAD-8A00-4227-AFEC-...
> > You state that Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or
> > perhaps as C: since it is booting from there.
> >
> > You further state:
> > You can change drive letter assignmet in XP using Control Panel,
> > Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management if it helps to
> > keep things sane for you.
> >
> > But what of applications already installed under XP with their respective
> > entries in XP registry?
> > Many of my applications are installed onto external USB hard drives.
> >
> > My current system:
> > c: (NTFS on drive 2) 172.98 GB 154.96 GB free
> > d: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A [DVD-RW drive]
> > e: (NTFS on drive 0) 203.92 GB 202.93 GB free
> > f: (NTFS on drive 1) 203.92 GB 196.30 GB free
> > g: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L USB Device [DVD-RAM drive]
> > h: (NTFS on drive 4) 500.11 GB 449.92 GB free
> > i: (NTFS on drive 5) 400.09 GB 375.33 GB free
> > j: (NTFS on drive 2) 147.09 GB 147.02 GB free
> > k: (NTFS on drive 3) 500.11 GB 387.04 GB free
> > l: (NTFS on drive 6) 750.15 GB 687.81 GB free
> >
> > Drives:
> > e: & f: - On SATA controller
> > h: i: k: l: - External USB hard drives
> >
> > c: is partitioned/split into 2 as:
> > c: - XP Professional SP2
> > j: - Partition set aside as location to install Vista
> >
> >
> > Dave of Newberg
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote:
> >
> >> Vista will undoubtedly see the second partition as D: or perhaps as C:,
> >> since it is booting from there. You can change drive letter assignments
> >> in
> >> XP using Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk
> >> Management if it helps to keep things sane for you.
> >>
> >> Your programs will need to be installed afresh to the Vista partition and
> >> you may need to purchase additional licenses for some of them, especially
> >> Office. This is considered another installation of the program, even
> >> though
> >> to you and me it is still on the same computer. If Office gives you
> >> trouble
> >> activating it, you can argue with the Microsoft phone support people over
> >> this point. You could install Office to one location on your local
> >> computer
> >> and treat it as if it were a shared network install, but then again I am
> >> afraid Microsoft will insist that you have a volume or site license to do
> >> this. If you decide to try this look through the Microsoft knowledge
> >> base
> >> for instructions. The install in this case is different from a one
> >> computer
> >> install.
> >>
> >> It would be theoretically possible to install the programs in Vista, to
> >> the
> >> same location where they are already installed in XP. I have tried this
> >> with earlier versions of Windows and it led to problems. Windows 2000
> >> supported two or more copies of Windows on the same HD, all working with
> >> the
> >> same "Program Files" folder, but it is just not a good idea, especially
> >> with
> >> different versions of the operating system, which you plan to have. You
> >> really do need to keep most things separate. Your Documents folder is
> >> another matter. You won't get into too much trouble having that in
> >> common.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Dave of Newberg" <> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:270B646C-E81E-4BDA-BF94-...
> >> > I have created a second partition on my primary C: drive.
> >> > I am currently using XP Professional SP-2.
> >> > Partition was created to install Vista Ultimate.
> >> > When I added partition to my primary drtive (C) it assigned drive
> >> > letter
> >> > designatioin of J: as letters D E F G H I were assigned to DVD burners
> >> > and
> >> > other hard drives both internal and USB
> >> > Vista will be installed to J: as noted.
> >> > Will programs already installed - Office 2007, Nero, Adobe, ITunes etc.
> >> > need
> >> > to be installed to Vista partition or can I access them on my first
> >> > (XP)
> >> > partition?
> >> > --
> >> > Dave of Newberg
> >>