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dlreid@gmail.com
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      08-31-2007
I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
"documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
returned. I must use the advanced search function and select "search
non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up. I
have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files, others
are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I have
Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
appreciate it.

Thanks,

Dave

 
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Dave
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      08-31-2007
Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?



<> wrote in message
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>I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
> indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
> location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
> "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
> search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
> returned. I must use the advanced search function and select "search
> non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up. I
> have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
> the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
> then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
> the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files, others
> are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I have
> Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.
>
> I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
> If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
> that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>

 
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      08-31-2007
On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?
>
> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news: ps.com...
>
> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select "search
> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up. I
> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files, others
> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I have
> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>
> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
> > appreciate it.

>
> > Thanks,

>
> > Dave


I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
results.

 
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Dave Wood [MS]
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      08-31-2007
Strange. In the Indexing Options Control Panel, is D:\Documents definitely
listed as being indexed?

I would try doing a Restore Defaults in the Control Panel to reset
everything about the index back to the defaults and then try from there.

<> wrote in message
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> On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
>> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?
>>
>> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news: ps.com...
>>
>> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
>> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
>> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
>> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
>> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
>> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select "search
>> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up. I
>> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
>> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
>> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
>> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files, others
>> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I have
>> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>>
>> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
>> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
>> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
>> > appreciate it.

>>
>> > Thanks,

>>
>> > Dave

>
> I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
> both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
> file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
> rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
> indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
> results.
>


 
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      08-31-2007
I don't have any suggestions... you've tried what I would...

I've tried searching on my D: partition, and it finds text in a file I just
created.
I can even find lots of files on my USB E: drive that's not indexed.

Just to clarify... how are you doing the search?
from the
1. Start - quick search box?
2. Start - Search (on the right side)?
3. Windows Explorer, navigate to D:\Documents - search box?



<> wrote in message
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> On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
>> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?
>>
>> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news: ps.com...
>>
>> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
>> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
>> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
>> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
>> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
>> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select "search
>> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up. I
>> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
>> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
>> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
>> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files, others
>> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I have
>> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>>
>> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
>> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
>> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
>> > appreciate it.

>>
>> > Thanks,

>>
>> > Dave

>
> I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
> both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
> file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
> rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
> indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
> results.
>

 
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      08-31-2007
On Aug 31, 2:04 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Strange. In the Indexing Options Control Panel, is D:\Documents definitely
> listed as being indexed?
>
> I would try doing a Restore Defaults in the Control Panel to reset
> everything about the index back to the defaults and then try from there.
>
> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news: ups.com...
>
> > On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
> >> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?

>
> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news: oups.com...

>
> >> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
> >> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
> >> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
> >> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
> >> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
> >> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select "search
> >> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up. I
> >> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
> >> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
> >> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
> >> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files, others
> >> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I have
> >> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>
> >> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
> >> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
> >> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
> >> > appreciate it.

>
> >> > Thanks,

>
> >> > Dave

>
> > I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
> > both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
> > file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
> > rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
> > indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
> > results.


D:\documents is definitely selected as being indexed. In fact,
indexing and searching works fine for most of the sub-folders in D:
\documents, however there is one in particular (that i have noticed,
there may be more), which refuse to be indexed, even when I
specifically select it in the indexing options. As I said, this seems
to be a bug. I will try restoring defaults and then rebuilding, and
I'll post if that works.

When I first installed Vista, the search indexing would not index my
Outlook emails. It would start indexing them and then at some point
stop. I contacted MS support about it and they determined it was a
bug, and it was later fixed in an update. I guess this is something
similar, where a particular set of circumstances prevents certain
items from being indexed.

 
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      08-31-2007
What are the names of some of the sub-folders that are not indexed? For
example folders called "temp" are not indexed I believe ...

<> wrote in message
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> On Aug 31, 2:04 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> Strange. In the Indexing Options Control Panel, is D:\Documents
>> definitely
>> listed as being indexed?
>>
>> I would try doing a Restore Defaults in the Control Panel to reset
>> everything about the index back to the defaults and then try from there.
>>
>> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news: ups.com...
>>
>> > On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
>> >> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?

>>
>> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news: oups.com...

>>
>> >> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
>> >> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
>> >> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
>> >> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
>> >> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
>> >> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select
>> >> > "search
>> >> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up.
>> >> > I
>> >> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
>> >> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
>> >> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
>> >> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files,
>> >> > others
>> >> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I
>> >> > have
>> >> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>>
>> >> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
>> >> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
>> >> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
>> >> > appreciate it.

>>
>> >> > Thanks,

>>
>> >> > Dave

>>
>> > I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
>> > both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
>> > file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
>> > rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
>> > indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
>> > results.

>
> D:\documents is definitely selected as being indexed. In fact,
> indexing and searching works fine for most of the sub-folders in D:
> \documents, however there is one in particular (that i have noticed,
> there may be more), which refuse to be indexed, even when I
> specifically select it in the indexing options. As I said, this seems
> to be a bug. I will try restoring defaults and then rebuilding, and
> I'll post if that works.
>
> When I first installed Vista, the search indexing would not index my
> Outlook emails. It would start indexing them and then at some point
> stop. I contacted MS support about it and they determined it was a
> bug, and it was later fixed in an update. I guess this is something
> similar, where a particular set of circumstances prevents certain
> items from being indexed.
>


 
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      09-01-2007
On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> What are the names of some of the sub-folders that are not indexed? For
> example folders called "temp" are not indexed I believe ...
>
> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news: oups.com...
>
> > On Aug 31, 2:04 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Strange. In the Indexing Options Control Panel, is D:\Documents
> >> definitely
> >> listed as being indexed?

>
> >> I would try doing a Restore Defaults in the Control Panel to reset
> >> everything about the index back to the defaults and then try from there.

>
> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news: roups.com...

>
> >> > On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
> >> >> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?

>
> >> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >> >>news: oups.com...

>
> >> >> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
> >> >> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
> >> >> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
> >> >> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
> >> >> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
> >> >> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select
> >> >> > "search
> >> >> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
> >> >> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
> >> >> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
> >> >> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files,
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>
> >> >> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
> >> >> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
> >> >> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
> >> >> > appreciate it.

>
> >> >> > Thanks,

>
> >> >> > Dave

>
> >> > I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
> >> > both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
> >> > file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
> >> > rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
> >> > indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
> >> > results.

>
> > D:\documents is definitely selected as being indexed. In fact,
> > indexing and searching works fine for most of the sub-folders in D:
> > \documents, however there is one in particular (that i have noticed,
> > there may be more), which refuse to be indexed, even when I
> > specifically select it in the indexing options. As I said, this seems
> > to be a bug. I will try restoring defaults and then rebuilding, and
> > I'll post if that works.

>
> > When I first installed Vista, the search indexing would not index my
> > Outlook emails. It would start indexing them and then at some point
> > stop. I contacted MS support about it and they determined it was a
> > bug, and it was later fixed in an update. I guess this is something
> > similar, where a particular set of circumstances prevents certain
> > items from being indexed.


The folder that is not being indexed is d:\documents\literature.
Inside literature there are about 20 subfolders. The folders contain
mostly PDF files, with some text files and a couple random files.
None of these files shows up when searching indexed locations, no
matter how I perform the search.

 
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      09-02-2007
On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> What are the names of some of the sub-folders that are not indexed? For
> example folders called "temp" are not indexed I believe ...
>
> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news: oups.com...
>
> > On Aug 31, 2:04 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Strange. In the Indexing Options Control Panel, is D:\Documents
> >> definitely
> >> listed as being indexed?

>
> >> I would try doing a Restore Defaults in the Control Panel to reset
> >> everything about the index back to the defaults and then try from there.

>
> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news: roups.com...

>
> >> > On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
> >> >> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?

>
> >> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >> >>news: oups.com...

>
> >> >> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
> >> >> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to the
> >> >> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
> >> >> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any other
> >> >> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
> >> >> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select
> >> >> > "search
> >> >> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show up.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of all
> >> >> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected and
> >> >> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure that
> >> >> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files,
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>
> >> >> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search indexing.
> >> >> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell me
> >> >> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would greatly
> >> >> > appreciate it.

>
> >> >> > Thanks,

>
> >> >> > Dave

>
> >> > I am searching for either or both. File names and text within files,
> >> > both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a text
> >> > file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
> >> > rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
> >> > indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get zero
> >> > results.

>
> > D:\documents is definitely selected as being indexed. In fact,
> > indexing and searching works fine for most of the sub-folders in D:
> > \documents, however there is one in particular (that i have noticed,
> > there may be more), which refuse to be indexed, even when I
> > specifically select it in the indexing options. As I said, this seems
> > to be a bug. I will try restoring defaults and then rebuilding, and
> > I'll post if that works.

>
> > When I first installed Vista, the search indexing would not index my
> > Outlook emails. It would start indexing them and then at some point
> > stop. I contacted MS support about it and they determined it was a
> > bug, and it was later fixed in an update. I guess this is something
> > similar, where a particular set of circumstances prevents certain
> > items from being indexed.


I reset the index to default and then rebuilt it, waited for indexing
to complete, then added D:\documents to the index, then waited again
for indexing to complete. I checked and only a small selection of the
subfolders in D:\documents return any search results. Most folders
return zero results no matter what search terms I use (even *.*). At
this point I believe that the search indexing in Vista is seriously
broken. I can only hope that this issue will be addressed when SP1 is
released. My theory is that this bug manifests itself when the user
changes the location of the \users\ folders, as I have with my
"documents" folder.

 
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      09-02-2007
Go run %SystemRoot%\system32\services.masc. (do it as Admin of course).
Find Windows Search service and double click to open. Go to Log On tab.
Now make sure that "Allow system to interact with desktop" is NOT ticked. If
it is, clear it.
You might need to rebuild the index after this, but I'm not sure.


<> wrote in message
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> On Aug 31, 3:57 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> What are the names of some of the sub-folders that are not indexed? For
>> example folders called "temp" are not indexed I believe ...
>>
>> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news: oups.com...
>>
>> > On Aug 31, 2:04 pm, "Dave Wood [MS]" <davew...@online.microsoft.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Strange. In the Indexing Options Control Panel, is D:\Documents
>> >> definitely
>> >> listed as being indexed?

>>
>> >> I would try doing a Restore Defaults in the Control Panel to reset
>> >> everything about the index back to the defaults and then try from
>> >> there.

>>
>> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news: roups.com...

>>
>> >> > On Aug 31, 1:07 pm, "Dave" <d...@beepbeep.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Are you searching for filenames, or text within the files?

>>
>> >> >> <dlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >> >>news: oups.com...

>>
>> >> >> >I have search indexing turned on, and several folders selected for
>> >> >> > indexing including the "documents" folder (which I have moved to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > location "D:\documents"). However, some of the sub-folders in
>> >> >> > "documents" are not being indexed. I search for "*.*" or any
>> >> >> > other
>> >> >> > search term in a folder with hundreds of files, and nothing is
>> >> >> > returned. I must use the advanced search function and select
>> >> >> > "search
>> >> >> > non-indexed locations" in order for the search results to show
>> >> >> > up.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > have rebuilt the index several times. I have taken ownership of
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > the files in the "documents" folder. I have tried de-selected
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > then re-selecting the location for indexing. I have made sure
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > the file types are selected. Some of the files are .txt files,
>> >> >> > others
>> >> >> > are .pdf files. None of them show up during a normal search. I
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > Acrobat professional 8.1 installed.

>>
>> >> >> > I believe this is a serious flaw or bug in Vista's search
>> >> >> > indexing.
>> >> >> > If there is a solution, hotfix, or if someone can at least tell
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > that this is a known issue and it's being worked on, I would
>> >> >> > greatly
>> >> >> > appreciate it.

>>
>> >> >> > Thanks,

>>
>> >> >> > Dave

>>
>> >> > I am searching for either or both. File names and text within
>> >> > files,
>> >> > both searches result in zero matches. For example, if I create a
>> >> > text
>> >> > file named "test.txt", and fill it with the word "test" repeatedly,
>> >> > rebuild the index, leave the computer on overnight, come back once
>> >> > indexing is complete, and search for "test" in that folder, I get
>> >> > zero
>> >> > results.

>>
>> > D:\documents is definitely selected as being indexed. In fact,
>> > indexing and searching works fine for most of the sub-folders in D:
>> > \documents, however there is one in particular (that i have noticed,
>> > there may be more), which refuse to be indexed, even when I
>> > specifically select it in the indexing options. As I said, this seems
>> > to be a bug. I will try restoring defaults and then rebuilding, and
>> > I'll post if that works.

>>
>> > When I first installed Vista, the search indexing would not index my
>> > Outlook emails. It would start indexing them and then at some point
>> > stop. I contacted MS support about it and they determined it was a
>> > bug, and it was later fixed in an update. I guess this is something
>> > similar, where a particular set of circumstances prevents certain
>> > items from being indexed.

>
> I reset the index to default and then rebuilt it, waited for indexing
> to complete, then added D:\documents to the index, then waited again
> for indexing to complete. I checked and only a small selection of the
> subfolders in D:\documents return any search results. Most folders
> return zero results no matter what search terms I use (even *.*). At
> this point I believe that the search indexing in Vista is seriously
> broken. I can only hope that this issue will be addressed when SP1 is
> released. My theory is that this bug manifests itself when the user
> changes the location of the \users\ folders, as I have with my
> "documents" folder.
>


 
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