Is Vista now safe to install?

When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista. Due to
the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed WinXP
Home from my old Dell laptop.

Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days. So,
is it now safe to install Vista?

If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
Packs I should, or should not, install?

BTW: I'm not really interested in the *individual* opinion of whichever kind
person(s) reply to my post. I'm more interested in knowing what the "average"
Vista user-base thinks. Any links to previous user polls might be useful.

OldGrantonian wrote:
> When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista. Due to
> the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed WinXP
> Home from my old Dell laptop.
>
> Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days. So,
> is it now safe to install Vista?
>
> If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
> Packs I should, or should not, install?
>
> BTW: I'm not really interested in the *individual* opinion of whichever kind
> person(s) reply to my post. I'm more interested in knowing what the "average"
> Vista user-base thinks. Any links to previous user polls might be useful.

The question is why would YOU need Vista? Microsoft isn't downplaying
Vista and pushing Windows 7 for no reason, you know.

Alias

Hi,

It was safe when you got it. The vast majority of issues were with a)
installing it on older hardware that did not meet specifications and did not
have readily available drivers - if any at all and b) commonly used utility
programs not updated to be compatible yet. The first one, "a", was solved
for you by the manufacturer as OEM's generally build hardware around the
operating system specifications, you already had compatible hardware and
drivers for it. The second one, "b", is largely resolved as typically
software vendors lag 6-12 months behind the release of the operating system
to update their software accordingly. Most times this means a newer version
of the program needs to be used.

Yes, you should install the only available service pack (SP1).

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"OldGrantonian" <> wrote in message
news:74238E6E-F793-400B-BAE8-...
> When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista. Due
> to
> the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed WinXP
> Home from my old Dell laptop.
>
> Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days.
> So,
> is it now safe to install Vista?
>
> If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
> Packs I should, or should not, install?
>
> BTW: I'm not really interested in the *individual* opinion of whichever
> kind
> person(s) reply to my post. I'm more interested in knowing what the
> "average"
> Vista user-base thinks. Any links to previous user polls might be useful.

"OldGrantonian" <> a écrit dans le
message de news:74238E6E-F793-400B-BAE8-...
> When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista. Due
> to
> the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed WinXP
> Home from my old Dell laptop.
>
> Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days.
> So,
> is it now safe to install Vista?
>
> If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
> Packs I should, or should not, install?
>
> BTW: I'm not really interested in the *individual* opinion of whichever
> kind
> person(s) reply to my post. I'm more interested in knowing what the
> "average"
> Vista user-base thinks. Any links to previous user polls might be useful.


It always was safe to install Vista. You should have worked with it before
deleting it.

There were problems with some older computers, that did not have enough
memory, and such problems.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:19:01 -0800, OldGrantonian
<> wrote:

> When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista. Due to
> the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed WinXP
> Home from my old Dell laptop.
>
> Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days. So,
> is it now safe to install Vista?


Yes. And it was safe in June 2007. It was also safe at RTM in November
2006, when I installed it here.

Please note that no matter how good it is, no piece of software is
perfect, and when it first comes out, you always see a flurry of
reported problems. Those reports reflect the experience of a
particularly vocal, but relatively small group of people. And in many
cases, it reflects their doing things wrong, because they were
ignorant of the right things to do.



> If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
> Packs I should, or should not, install?


There has only been one service pack, SP1, and it's been fine. My view
is that everyone should stay up to date with service packs as they get
released.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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"JatCar" <> wrote in message
news:...
>> Yes. And it was safe in June 2007. It was also safe at RTM in November
>> 2006, when I installed it here.
>
> yeah sure it was safe (ironic tone).... LOL have you signed your soul to
> microsoft? Why do you lie?
>
> Must I provide this proof that vista sucked big time before sp1
>
> http://steveforster.is-a-geek.com/se...copy136yrs.jpg
>
> http://www.planetlowyat.com/images/vista_suck.png
>
> This is only a small funny example of how much vista sucked ..... but
> vistas crap quality is no laughing matter!
>
> Now (SP1) it sucks a little less but it still sucks..
>
> because no number of service packs will fix vista.
>
> only and if they make windows7 good, that will be a good "vista SE".
>
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:19:01 -0800, OldGrantonian
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista.
>>> Due to
>>> the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed
>>> WinXP
>>> Home from my old Dell laptop.
>>>
>>> Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days.
>>> So,
>>> is it now safe to install Vista?
>>
>>
>> Yes. And it was safe in June 2007. It was also safe at RTM in November
>> 2006, when I installed it here.
>>
>> Please note that no matter how good it is, no piece of software is
>> perfect, and when it first comes out, you always see a flurry of
>> reported problems. Those reports reflect the experience of a
>> particularly vocal, but relatively small group of people. And in many
>> cases, it reflects their doing things wrong, because they were
>> ignorant of the right things to do.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
>>> Packs I should, or should not, install?
>>
>>
>> There has only been one service pack, SP1, and it's been fine. My view
>> is that everyone should stay up to date with service packs as they get
>> released.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>


Both of which corrected themselves and which hasn't happened for the longest
time. The rest of us are in the closing part of 2008, looking forward to
2009.. please check the date on your computer. You appear to have much
catching up to do..


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"JatCar" <> wrote in message
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> >it was safe in June 2007. It was also safe at RTM in November
>>2006, when I installed it here.
>
> Contradicts
>
>>Both of which corrected themselves
>
> Your vista lies cannot pass here... want more proof that vista was very
> crap when you say it was safe?
> There is tons and tons of proof... lol vista was a bucket of crap... now
> they just added some cream on top of the crap.
>
> vista is still slow fat and stupid... they are trying to address this in
> windows7 or perhaps you don't know this yet????
>
> You have too much catching up to do!
>
> IDIOT
>
>

No contradicts.. Vista was released Nov 17, 2006. By June 2007, a great many
issues had been fixed..

You have school tomorrow. Gotten all of your homework completed?



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"[signious]" <> wrote in message
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> gesh, no one should ever expect a unbiased and truthful answer from an MVP
> regarding Vista
>
> the best a very honest mvp can do is avoid to reply or give an answer that
> a politic would admire.
>
> vista has become microsofts blunder of the decade... its better off
> forgotten
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> "JatCar" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> >it was safe in June 2007. It was also safe at RTM in November
>>>>2006, when I installed it here.
>>>
>>> Contradicts
>>>
>>>>Both of which corrected themselves
>>>
>>> Your vista lies cannot pass here... want more proof that vista was very
>>> crap when you say it was safe?
>>> There is tons and tons of proof... lol vista was a bucket of crap... now
>>> they just added some cream on top of the crap.
>>>
>>> vista is still slow fat and stupid... they are trying to address this in
>>> windows7 or perhaps you don't know this yet????
>>>
>>> You have too much catching up to do!
>>>
>>> IDIOT
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No contradicts.. Vista was released Nov 17, 2006. By June 2007, a great
>> many issues had been fixed..
>>
>> You have school tomorrow. Gotten all of your homework completed?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>


I should not reply to please you?


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"[signious] ^ 2" <> wrote in message
news:49457333$...
>>>the best a very honest mvp can do is avoid to reply or give an answer
>>>that a politician would admire.
>
>
>>"Mike Hall - MVP"
>> I should not reply to please you?
>
> like clockwork!
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "[signious]" <> wrote in message
>> news:49456c1b$...
>>> gesh, no one should ever expect a unbiased and truthful answer from an
>>> MVP regarding Vista
>>>
>>> the best a very honest mvp can do is avoid to reply or give an answer
>>> that a politic would admire.
>>>
>>> vista has become microsofts blunder of the decade... its better off
>>> forgotten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#...
>>>> "JatCar" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> >it was safe in June 2007. It was also safe at RTM in November
>>>>>>2006, when I installed it here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Contradicts
>>>>>
>>>>>>Both of which corrected themselves
>>>>>
>>>>> Your vista lies cannot pass here... want more proof that vista was
>>>>> very crap when you say it was safe?
>>>>> There is tons and tons of proof... lol vista was a bucket of crap...
>>>>> now they just added some cream on top of the crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> vista is still slow fat and stupid... they are trying to address this
>>>>> in windows7 or perhaps you don't know this yet????
>>>>>
>>>>> You have too much catching up to do!
>>>>>
>>>>> IDIOT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No contradicts.. Vista was released Nov 17, 2006. By June 2007, a great
>>>> many issues had been fixed..
>>>>
>>>> You have school tomorrow. Gotten all of your homework completed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>>> How to construct a good post..
>>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
>>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> I should not reply to please you?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>


If you do not want a reply from an MVP, it would be best not to address any
of us. I have no intention of remaining quiet just because you think that I
should..

This formally terminates any further discussion with you..


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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:19:01 -0800, OldGrantonian
<> wrote:

>When my Dell laptop arrived in June 2007 it was pre-loaded with Vista. Due to
>the many reported problems, I immediately wiped Vista and installed WinXP
>Home from my old Dell laptop.

XP is faster, Vista has many features removed, and Vista is also
problematical for many users. Stick with XP if you have the option -
Vista has no known advantages.

>Dell are going to send me a replacement hard drive in a couple of days. So,
>is it now safe to install Vista?
>
>If the answer is "yes", are there any recommendations about what Service
>Packs I should, or should not, install?
>
>BTW: I'm not really interested in the *individual* opinion of whichever kind
>person(s) reply to my post. I'm more interested in knowing what the "average"
>Vista user-base thinks. Any links to previous user polls might be useful.

Sorry, wrong concept. You will find people that love Vista and people
that hate it. You can read all sorts of reviews and articles from
"industry professional" but none of them matter since they too are
opinions.

Put me in the "hate it" category - it is a bug ridden, over bearing,
poorly design POS. I'd install XP in a minute if it ran on my latest
laptop.