Vista: The PC Enthusiasts worst nightmare.

Im done with Windows Vista. After all I've been through I'm sick and done
dealing with it. To make a long story short I upgraded by computer to a Dual
socket AMD computer (AMD's 4x4 platform). Before I upgraded however I made
the fatal decision to buy Windows Vista: Home Premium. After I was done
putting in all the new parts I realized I had to format my Hard Drive because
it wasnt being detected correctly. So I did. I soon realized afterwards that
I couldnt reactivate Windows Vista so I had to call up Microsoft Tech Support
and for 3 days I tried to convince them that I owned Windows Vista so they
would give me another product key so I could activate Vista. Eventually they
gave me a new product key and I asked them how would could I uninstall vista
to avoid this in the future and their response was " Call us before you do so
and we'll deactivate and reactivate your Product Key" So essentially I must
spend a good portion of my day calling Windows Vista Tech Support everytime I
want to upgrade my hard drive or make major changes to my computer. Anyways
everything was fine until I realized that Home Premium didnt utilize both CPU
sockets only Vista Ultimate or Vista Business did. So I saved up some more
money and did the anytime upgrade to Vista Ultimate. That wasnt too hard but
it still costed more money than I wanted to spend for one feature. I then
upgraded to 4 gigabytes of RAM and realized I needed the 64 bit version of
Windows Vista Ultimate to use it. So I tried to get the 64 media disk, but
whats this? People who do "Anytime Upgrade" to Vista Ultimate are not elgible
to receive a 64 bit disk (talk about fine print). So what do I have to do to
utilize both the 64 capability of my comptuer and the 4 gigabytes of RAM? I
have to go buy ANOTHER full version of Windows Vista Ultimate 64 edition.
Another $400 just to be able to utilize a couple features of my computer!
This is ridculous, I thought Vista was the best OS for gamers but I guess I
was wrong I cant do anything to my computer without calling MS tech support
and buying another piece of software. If I had to suggest some things to
Windows its that people shouldnt have to get Vista Ultimate to use both CPU
sockets and people shouldnt have to buy another copy of Vista to use 4 gigs
of ram and people shouldnt have to spend 3 or 4 days trying to accomplish the
simplest of tasks such as reinstalling windows or obtaining a 64 bit vista CD
and people shouldnt have to call Windows Vista to upgrade their computer. Im
going back to Windows Professional x64 where I can use 4 gigs of ram, 2 CPU
sockets, and 64 bit without paying a dollar more. My only regret is wasting
my money buying Vista.


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"James" <> wrote in message
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> I
> have to go buy ANOTHER full version of Windows Vista Ultimate 64 edition.
> Another $400 just to be able to utilize a couple features of my computer!

I'm sure there will be others here to comment on other portions of your
post. I just want to point out that you can get the OEM version of Vista 64
Ultimate for about $200 from New Egg. $200 more than what you want to spend,
but it's still $200 less than what you think you have to spend.

Vista Home versions do not recognize dual processors just like XP Home
versions didn't.. you have to research these things before buying.. this
doesn't just apply to computers, but everything..

Re 64bit, unless you intend to run more than 4gb RAM, there is little point
in running a 64bit OS.. While 32bit Windows does not show all of it, the
entire 4gb will be used by the system as a whole..


"James" <> wrote in message
news:7365AE25-A8F6-45EF-B129-...
> Im done with Windows Vista. After all I've been through I'm sick and done
> dealing with it. To make a long story short I upgraded by computer to a
> Dual
> socket AMD computer (AMD's 4x4 platform). Before I upgraded however I made
> the fatal decision to buy Windows Vista: Home Premium. After I was done
> putting in all the new parts I realized I had to format my Hard Drive
> because
> it wasnt being detected correctly. So I did. I soon realized afterwards
> that
> I couldnt reactivate Windows Vista so I had to call up Microsoft Tech
> Support
> and for 3 days I tried to convince them that I owned Windows Vista so they
> would give me another product key so I could activate Vista. Eventually
> they
> gave me a new product key and I asked them how would could I uninstall
> vista
> to avoid this in the future and their response was " Call us before you do
> so
> and we'll deactivate and reactivate your Product Key" So essentially I
> must
> spend a good portion of my day calling Windows Vista Tech Support
> everytime I
> want to upgrade my hard drive or make major changes to my computer.
> Anyways
> everything was fine until I realized that Home Premium didnt utilize both
> CPU
> sockets only Vista Ultimate or Vista Business did. So I saved up some more
> money and did the anytime upgrade to Vista Ultimate. That wasnt too hard
> but
> it still costed more money than I wanted to spend for one feature. I then
> upgraded to 4 gigabytes of RAM and realized I needed the 64 bit version of
> Windows Vista Ultimate to use it. So I tried to get the 64 media disk, but
> whats this? People who do "Anytime Upgrade" to Vista Ultimate are not
> elgible
> to receive a 64 bit disk (talk about fine print). So what do I have to do
> to
> utilize both the 64 capability of my comptuer and the 4 gigabytes of RAM?
> I
> have to go buy ANOTHER full version of Windows Vista Ultimate 64 edition.
> Another $400 just to be able to utilize a couple features of my computer!
> This is ridculous, I thought Vista was the best OS for gamers but I guess
> I
> was wrong I cant do anything to my computer without calling MS tech
> support
> and buying another piece of software. If I had to suggest some things to
> Windows its that people shouldnt have to get Vista Ultimate to use both
> CPU
> sockets and people shouldnt have to buy another copy of Vista to use 4
> gigs
> of ram and people shouldnt have to spend 3 or 4 days trying to accomplish
> the
> simplest of tasks such as reinstalling windows or obtaining a 64 bit vista
> CD
> and people shouldnt have to call Windows Vista to upgrade their computer.
> Im
> going back to Windows Professional x64 where I can use 4 gigs of ram, 2
> CPU
> sockets, and 64 bit without paying a dollar more. My only regret is
> wasting
> my money buying Vista.
>
>
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> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

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James wrote:
> Im done with Windows Vista. After all I've been through I'm sick and done
> dealing with it. To make a long story short I upgraded by computer to a Dual
> socket AMD computer (AMD's 4x4 platform). Before I upgraded however I made
> the fatal decision to buy Windows Vista: Home Premium. After I was done
> putting in all the new parts I realized I had to format my Hard Drive because
> it wasnt being detected correctly. So I did. I soon realized afterwards that
> I couldnt reactivate Windows Vista so I had to call up Microsoft Tech Support
> and for 3 days I tried to convince them that I owned Windows Vista so they
> would give me another product key so I could activate Vista. Eventually they
> gave me a new product key and I asked them how would could I uninstall vista
> to avoid this in the future and their response was " Call us before you do so
> and we'll deactivate and reactivate your Product Key" So essentially I must
> spend a good portion of my day calling Windows Vista Tech Support everytime I
> want to upgrade my hard drive or make major changes to my computer. Anyways
> everything was fine until I realized that Home Premium didnt utilize both CPU
> sockets only Vista Ultimate or Vista Business did. So I saved up some more
> money and did the anytime upgrade to Vista Ultimate. That wasnt too hard but
> it still costed more money than I wanted to spend for one feature. I then
> upgraded to 4 gigabytes of RAM and realized I needed the 64 bit version of
> Windows Vista Ultimate to use it. So I tried to get the 64 media disk, but
> whats this? People who do "Anytime Upgrade" to Vista Ultimate are not elgible
> to receive a 64 bit disk (talk about fine print). So what do I have to do to
> utilize both the 64 capability of my comptuer and the 4 gigabytes of RAM? I
> have to go buy ANOTHER full version of Windows Vista Ultimate 64 edition.
> Another $400 just to be able to utilize a couple features of my computer!
> This is ridculous, I thought Vista was the best OS for gamers but I guess I
> was wrong I cant do anything to my computer without calling MS tech support
> and buying another piece of software. If I had to suggest some things to
> Windows its that people shouldnt have to get Vista Ultimate to use both CPU
> sockets and people shouldnt have to buy another copy of Vista to use 4 gigs
> of ram and people shouldnt have to spend 3 or 4 days trying to accomplish the
> simplest of tasks such as reinstalling windows or obtaining a 64 bit vista CD
> and people shouldnt have to call Windows Vista to upgrade their computer. Im
> going back to Windows Professional x64 where I can use 4 gigs of ram, 2 CPU
> sockets, and 64 bit without paying a dollar more. My only regret is wasting
> my money buying Vista.
>
>
All the different versions of Vista can be confusing but depending on
when you purchased the 32 Bit version of Home Premium you can likely
return it to Microsoft and obtain a full refund then purchase the OEM 64
bit version. Not sure what the refund policy is for an Anytime Upgrade
but a call to Microsoft should clarify whether you can also get a refund
for that as well.

Kevin Young wrote:
> James wrote:
>> Im done with Windows Vista. After all I've been through I'm sick and
>> done dealing with it. To make a long story short I upgraded by
>> computer to a Dual socket AMD computer (AMD's 4x4 platform). Before I
>> upgraded however I made the fatal decision to buy Windows Vista: Home
>> Premium. After I was done putting in all the new parts I realized I
>> had to format my Hard Drive because it wasnt being detected correctly.
>> So I did. I soon realized afterwards that I couldnt reactivate Windows
>> Vista so I had to call up Microsoft Tech Support and for 3 days I
>> tried to convince them that I owned Windows Vista so they would give
>> me another product key so I could activate Vista. Eventually they gave
>> me a new product key and I asked them how would could I uninstall
>> vista to avoid this in the future and their response was " Call us
>> before you do so and we'll deactivate and reactivate your Product Key"
>> So essentially I must spend a good portion of my day calling Windows
>> Vista Tech Support everytime I want to upgrade my hard drive or make
>> major changes to my computer. Anyways everything was fine until I
>> realized that Home Premium didnt utilize both CPU sockets only Vista
>> Ultimate or Vista Business did. So I saved up some more money and did
>> the anytime upgrade to Vista Ultimate. That wasnt too hard but it
>> still costed more money than I wanted to spend for one feature. I then
>> upgraded to 4 gigabytes of RAM and realized I needed the 64 bit
>> version of Windows Vista Ultimate to use it. So I tried to get the 64
>> media disk, but whats this? People who do "Anytime Upgrade" to Vista
>> Ultimate are not elgible to receive a 64 bit disk (talk about fine
>> print). So what do I have to do to utilize both the 64 capability of
>> my comptuer and the 4 gigabytes of RAM? I have to go buy ANOTHER full
>> version of Windows Vista Ultimate 64 edition. Another $400 just to be
>> able to utilize a couple features of my computer! This is ridculous,
>> I thought Vista was the best OS for gamers but I guess I was wrong I
>> cant do anything to my computer without calling MS tech support and
>> buying another piece of software. If I had to suggest some things to
>> Windows its that people shouldnt have to get Vista Ultimate to use
>> both CPU sockets and people shouldnt have to buy another copy of Vista
>> to use 4 gigs of ram and people shouldnt have to spend 3 or 4 days
>> trying to accomplish the simplest of tasks such as reinstalling
>> windows or obtaining a 64 bit vista CD and people shouldnt have to
>> call Windows Vista to upgrade their computer. Im going back to Windows
>> Professional x64 where I can use 4 gigs of ram, 2 CPU sockets, and 64
>> bit without paying a dollar more. My only regret is wasting my money
>> buying Vista.
>>
>>
> All the different versions of Vista can be confusing

Henceforth the lawsuit they are suffering.

> but depending on
> when you purchased the 32 Bit version of Home Premium you can likely
> return it to Microsoft and obtain a full refund then purchase the OEM 64
> bit version. Not sure what the refund policy is for an Anytime Upgrade
> but a call to Microsoft should clarify whether you can also get a refund
> for that as well.



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Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"poor little MADAM albright still got your knickers twisted. how are we
supposed to believe you know anything about computers when you cannot
even dress your self. oh and pull that skirt down."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

The thing about OEM is I believe Microsoft does not provide tech support to
OEM customers. Also replying to Mike I would have done more research if I had
known before I bought Home Premium that I was going to upgrade. I bought
Vista the night it came out and upgraded sometime in March. I also upgraded
to what I thought to be AMDs best platform and only found out about all the
requirements by posting questions on this board. Anyways, dont you think if
Microsoft sells something they should have one page that details the
capabilites of their products instead of having a user search the internet to
find problems they never knew existed? I even did the thing to see if your
computer was fully compatable with Vista but all that does is tell you what
features your computer is able to access like Vista Aero or Windows Flip, and
other basic features.

James wrote:
> Im done with Windows Vista. After all I've been through I'm sick and
> done dealing with it. To make a long story short I upgraded by
> computer to a Dual socket AMD computer (AMD's 4x4 platform). Before I
> upgraded however I made the fatal decision to buy Windows Vista: Home
> Premium. After I was done putting in all the new parts I realized I
> had to format my Hard Drive because it wasnt being detected
> correctly. So I did. I soon realized afterwards that I couldnt
> reactivate Windows Vista so I had to call up Microsoft Tech Support
> and for 3 days I tried to convince them that I owned Windows Vista so
> they would give me another product key so I could activate Vista.
> Eventually they gave me a new product key and I asked them how would
> could I uninstall vista to avoid this in the future and their
> response was " Call us before you do so and we'll deactivate and
> reactivate your Product Key" So essentially I must spend a good
> portion of my day calling Windows Vista Tech Support everytime I want
> to upgrade my hard drive or make major changes to my computer.
> Anyways everything was fine until I realized that Home Premium didnt
> utilize both CPU sockets only Vista Ultimate or Vista Business did.
> So I saved up some more money and did the anytime upgrade to Vista
> Ultimate. That wasnt too hard but it still costed more money than I
> wanted to spend for one feature. I then upgraded to 4 gigabytes of
> RAM and realized I needed the 64 bit version of Windows Vista
> Ultimate to use it. So I tried to get the 64 media disk, but whats
> this? People who do "Anytime Upgrade" to Vista Ultimate are not
> elgible to receive a 64 bit disk (talk about fine print). So what do
> I have to do to utilize both the 64 capability of my comptuer and the
> 4 gigabytes of RAM? I have to go buy ANOTHER full version of Windows
> Vista Ultimate 64 edition. Another $400 just to be able to utilize a
> couple features of my computer! This is ridculous, I thought Vista
> was the best OS for gamers but I guess I was wrong I cant do anything
> to my computer without calling MS tech support and buying another
> piece of software. If I had to suggest some things to Windows its
> that people shouldnt have to get Vista Ultimate to use both CPU
> sockets and people shouldnt have to buy another copy of Vista to use
> 4 gigs of ram and people shouldnt have to spend 3 or 4 days trying to
> accomplish the simplest of tasks such as reinstalling windows or
> obtaining a 64 bit vista CD and people shouldnt have to call Windows
> Vista to upgrade their computer. Im going back to Windows
> Professional x64 where I can use 4 gigs of ram, 2 CPU sockets, and 64
> bit without paying a dollar more. My only regret is wasting my money
> buying Vista.
>

James, I'm sorry you were forced to go through all this trouble largely
because of Vista and it's product activation.

Yet more evidence that Buggy DRM Technologies like WPA, WGA(N), etc.
screw the paying customer, and do not reduce piracy

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Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"poor little MADAM albright still got your knickers twisted. how are we
supposed to believe you know anything about computers when you cannot
even dress your self. oh and pull that skirt down."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

James wrote:

<------------delete MS rant----------->

So you're blaming MS for your inability or laziness to do basic research
on what you have and what you need?
Is that correct?
You deserve linux.
(snort, chuckle, burp)
Frank

No, I'm blaming MS for making it difficult for PC enthusiasts to upgrade
their computers. Though there is no reason Microsoft couldnt make it more
convienent to access information about their products.

(BTW Linux is sounding more and more appealing to me *snort, chuckle, burp*)

"Frank" wrote:

> James wrote:
>
> <------------delete MS rant----------->
>
> So you're blaming MS for your inability or laziness to do basic research
> on what you have and what you need?
> Is that correct?
> You deserve linux.
> (snort, chuckle, burp)
> Frank
>

"James" <> wrote in message
news:7365AE25-A8F6-45EF-B129-...
> Im done with Windows Vista. After all I've been through I'm sick and done
> dealing with it. To make a long story short I upgraded by computer to a
> Dual
> socket AMD computer (AMD's 4x4 platform). Before I upgraded however I made
> the fatal decision to buy Windows Vista: Home Premium. After I was done
> putting in all the new parts I realized I had to format my Hard Drive
> because
> it wasnt being detected correctly. So I did. I soon realized afterwards
> that
> I couldnt reactivate Windows Vista so I had to call up Microsoft Tech
> Support
> and for 3 days I tried to convince them that I owned Windows Vista so they
> would give me another product key so I could activate Vista. Eventually
> they
> gave me a new product key and I asked them how would could I uninstall
> vista
> to avoid this in the future and their response was " Call us before you do
> so
> and we'll deactivate and reactivate your Product Key" So essentially I
> must
> spend a good portion of my day calling Windows Vista Tech Support
> everytime I
> want to upgrade my hard drive or make major changes to my computer.
> Anyways
> everything was fine until I realized that Home Premium didnt utilize both
> CPU
> sockets only Vista Ultimate or Vista Business did. So I saved up some more
> money and did the anytime upgrade to Vista Ultimate. That wasnt too hard
> but
> it still costed more money than I wanted to spend for one feature. I then
> upgraded to 4 gigabytes of RAM and realized I needed the 64 bit version of
> Windows Vista Ultimate to use it. So I tried to get the 64 media disk, but
> whats this? People who do "Anytime Upgrade" to Vista Ultimate are not
> elgible
> to receive a 64 bit disk (talk about fine print). So what do I have to do
> to
> utilize both the 64 capability of my comptuer and the 4 gigabytes of RAM?
> I
> have to go buy ANOTHER full version of Windows Vista Ultimate 64 edition.
> Another $400 just to be able to utilize a couple features of my computer!
> This is ridculous, I thought Vista was the best OS for gamers but I guess
> I
> was wrong I cant do anything to my computer without calling MS tech
> support
> and buying another piece of software. If I had to suggest some things to
> Windows its that people shouldnt have to get Vista Ultimate to use both
> CPU
> sockets and people shouldnt have to buy another copy of Vista to use 4
> gigs
> of ram and people shouldnt have to spend 3 or 4 days trying to accomplish
> the
> simplest of tasks such as reinstalling windows or obtaining a 64 bit vista
> CD
> and people shouldnt have to call Windows Vista to upgrade their computer.
> Im
> going back to Windows Professional x64 where I can use 4 gigs of ram, 2
> CPU
> sockets, and 64 bit without paying a dollar more. My only regret is
> wasting
> my money buying Vista.


I'm very critical of vista & I don't use it, but you got all you deserved
here.
Next time do some research & you won't waste so much money.