Vista Ultimate 32-Bit to 64-Bit

Hello ALL,

About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all went
smooth no problems.

Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP Pavillion
Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new PC
came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista Ultimate
32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.

My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current allocation?
If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use 64-Bit.

Thanks ~~ Gunny

Moving to 64-bit requires a custom (clean) install. You can use WET to
transfer files and settings (if you can get it to work, I never have been
able to get it to complete).

"Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
> Hello ALL,
>
> About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
> upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
> went
> smooth no problems.
>
> Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
> Pavillion
> Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
> PC
> came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista Ultimate
> 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>
> My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
> allocation?
> If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
> 64-Bit.
>
> Thanks ~~ Gunny

How did you upgrade from VHP to VU?

Did you purchase a retail copy of VU upgrade edition or did you upgrade via
Anytime Upgrade?

Was the VHP that came with the new computer preinstalled by HP (I assume
so)?

A preinstalled (OEM) copy of Vista is not eligible for a free migration to
x64 like a retail one is. A retail customer can order a 64bit dvd from
Microsoft for shipping and handling but that option is not available to
customers whose Vista came preinstalled.

However, since you upgraded, if you purchased a retail copy of VU upgrade
edition then you are entitled to order a 64bit dvd from Microsoft. The
instructions are in the box.

If you upgraded via AU you will need to check the media kit you ordered to
see if you can order a 64bit dvd (an instruction card is enclosed if you are
eligible). If you have not ordered a media kit for your AU upgrade, do so
now. Check the website to see if you can order a 64bit dvd or if you are
limited to a 32bit dvd (because the AU was 32bit). I have not used AU and
the AU FAQ page does not give enough details to tell without going through
the AU process to find out.

You will need to download the 64bit drivers and utilities from HP.

If for some reason you are not eligible for a free x64 dvd as described
above, then you will need to purchase a VU upgrade or standard edition at
retail.

"Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
> Hello ALL,
>
> About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
> upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
> went
> smooth no problems.
>
> Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
> Pavillion
> Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
> PC
> came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista Ultimate
> 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>
> My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
> allocation?
> If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
> 64-Bit.
>
> Thanks ~~ Gunny

Most likely your current HP version is OEM.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/
(An upgrade Product Key requires that you revert to XP SP2 prior to using it
to install x64 from Vista x86.)

See section:
Installing Vista x64 on a system already running 32-bit version of Vista.
Just follow the instructions.

Key factors in being successful:
1. Make sure all drivers needed are available out there. They must be x64
versions to work.
Some components still have trouble until x64 is installed. You may want
to remove them first:
a. Creative sound cards.
b. SLI graphics
c. Mixed SATA and IDE drives. (only have one installed while installing
x64)
When done, put them back in one at a time.
2. When installing, elect not to update Vista until you are all done.
3. If for some reason, it errs prior to complete install, just start the x64
DVD again. You don't have to install XP again.

To make uses of all memory, ensure you "remap" the memory hole through your
BIOS. If this function is not available in the BIOS, you may need to update
the BIOS. If still not available, I would question the need to go to x64.

As everyone will be happy to point out semantics... this is not an upgrade,
but a clean install. Nothing will survive so copy all your files first to a
safe location.
E-mail addresses transfer by WET.

Good luck!
Let us know how it goes.
I've been on x64 since Vista was released and it's rock solid.



"Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
> Hello ALL,
>
> About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
> upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
> went
> smooth no problems.
>
> Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
> Pavillion
> Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
> PC
> came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista Ultimate
> 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>
> My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
> allocation?
> If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
> 64-Bit.
>
> Thanks ~~ Gunny

I've had pretty good success with WET (but only the built in one, not the
one that promise to move your programs too). But it's almost always been
64-bit to 64-bit.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Moving to 64-bit requires a custom (clean) install. You can use WET to
> transfer files and settings (if you can get it to work, I never have been
> able to get it to complete).
>
> "Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
> news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
>> Hello ALL,
>>
>> About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
>> upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
>> went
>> smooth no problems.
>>
>> Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
>> Pavillion
>> Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
>> PC
>> came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista
>> Ultimate
>> 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>>
>> My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
>> allocation?
>> If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
>> 64-Bit.
>>
>> Thanks ~~ Gunny
>

No it doesn't. A copy of Vista is eligible for an upgrade to Vista. The
user who has a copy of VHP x86 preinstalled can upgrade to Vista Ultimate
x64 by booting with the x64 dvd and entering his upgrade edition pk. Setup
will find the VHP installed and allow the user to proceed since Vista is an
eligible product (see the upgrade matrix). The user is not required to
perform the upgrade from the desktop of the existing Windows (in fact he
can't). He may then perform a clean install (reformat if he wishes) or
perform a custom install to any available volume. 64bit upgrades are very
different from 32bit upgrades. I have done these upgrades myself.

"Mark" <> wrote in message
news:BC3B1162-E171-4CE3-8B4A-...
> Most likely your current HP version is OEM.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/
> (An upgrade Product Key requires that you revert to XP SP2 prior to using
> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)
>
> See section:
> Installing Vista x64 on a system already running 32-bit version of Vista.
> Just follow the instructions.
>
> Key factors in being successful:
> 1. Make sure all drivers needed are available out there. They must be x64
> versions to work.
> Some components still have trouble until x64 is installed. You may want
> to remove them first:
> a. Creative sound cards.
> b. SLI graphics
> c. Mixed SATA and IDE drives. (only have one installed while installing
> x64)
> When done, put them back in one at a time.
> 2. When installing, elect not to update Vista until you are all done.
> 3. If for some reason, it errs prior to complete install, just start the
> x64 DVD again. You don't have to install XP again.
>
> To make uses of all memory, ensure you "remap" the memory hole through
> your BIOS. If this function is not available in the BIOS, you may need to
> update the BIOS. If still not available, I would question the need to go
> to x64.
>
> As everyone will be happy to point out semantics... this is not an
> upgrade, but a clean install. Nothing will survive so copy all your files
> first to a safe location.
> E-mail addresses transfer by WET.
>
> Good luck!
> Let us know how it goes.
> I've been on x64 since Vista was released and it's rock solid.
>
>
>
> "Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
> news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
>> Hello ALL,
>>
>> About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
>> upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
>> went
>> smooth no problems.
>>
>> Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
>> Pavillion
>> Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
>> PC
>> came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista
>> Ultimate
>> 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>>
>> My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
>> allocation?
>> If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
>> 64-Bit.
>>
>> Thanks ~~ Gunny
>

My attempts were also 64 64-bit. Never got one to finish. They would get a
little over 50% and stop.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:30C4D829-4F01-4D00-B7EE-...
> I've had pretty good success with WET (but only the built in one, not the
> one that promise to move your programs too). But it's almost always been
> 64-bit to 64-bit.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Moving to 64-bit requires a custom (clean) install. You can use WET to
>> transfer files and settings (if you can get it to work, I never have been
>> able to get it to complete).
>>
>> "Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
>> news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
>>> Hello ALL,
>>>
>>> About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
>>> upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
>>> went
>>> smooth no problems.
>>>
>>> Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
>>> Pavillion
>>> Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
>>> PC
>>> came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista
>>> Ultimate
>>> 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>>>
>>> My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
>>> allocation?
>>> If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
>>> 64-Bit.
>>>
>>> Thanks ~~ Gunny
>>
>

WOW Colin! Info overload, just kidding! OK, to clearify:

1. My NEW HP m9150f - It came pre-installed with Vista Home Premium (OEM).

2. I purchased a RETAIL version of Vista Ultimate, cost was around $250.00.
That purchase gave me 2 DVD's:
A. Vista Ultimate in 32-Bit - UPGRADE Version
B. Vista Ultimate in 64-Bit - UPGRADE Version
C. I purchased the Upgrade about 6-8 months ago. The only thing I have are
the DVD's and a Quick Start Guide in Booklet format.

3. I used the Vista Ultimate to Upgrade the PC I had then, which was using
XP Pro.

4. That PC is no longer alive, kicked the bucket about 2 weeks ago, but had
a good 5 year life!

SO, Thats is where I am at. Now, what do I have to do now to get my
current PC, which has Vista Ultimate 32-Bit, into the 64-BIT WORLD?

Thanks! Gunny

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> How did you upgrade from VHP to VU?
>
> Did you purchase a retail copy of VU upgrade edition or did you upgrade via
> Anytime Upgrade?
>
> Was the VHP that came with the new computer preinstalled by HP (I assume
> so)?
>
> A preinstalled (OEM) copy of Vista is not eligible for a free migration to
> x64 like a retail one is. A retail customer can order a 64bit dvd from
> Microsoft for shipping and handling but that option is not available to
> customers whose Vista came preinstalled.
>
> However, since you upgraded, if you purchased a retail copy of VU upgrade
> edition then you are entitled to order a 64bit dvd from Microsoft. The
> instructions are in the box.
>
> If you upgraded via AU you will need to check the media kit you ordered to
> see if you can order a 64bit dvd (an instruction card is enclosed if you are
> eligible). If you have not ordered a media kit for your AU upgrade, do so
> now. Check the website to see if you can order a 64bit dvd or if you are
> limited to a 32bit dvd (because the AU was 32bit). I have not used AU and
> the AU FAQ page does not give enough details to tell without going through
> the AU process to find out.
>
> You will need to download the 64bit drivers and utilities from HP.
>
> If for some reason you are not eligible for a free x64 dvd as described
> above, then you will need to purchase a VU upgrade or standard edition at
> retail.
>
> "Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
> news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
> > Hello ALL,
> >
> > About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
> > upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
> > went
> > smooth no problems.
> >
> > Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
> > Pavillion
> > Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
> > PC
> > came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista Ultimate
> > 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
> >
> > My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
> > allocation?
> > If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
> > 64-Bit.
> >
> > Thanks ~~ Gunny
>

Mark,

Please see the reply to Colin above. Please review and advise.

Thanks ~~ Gunny

"Mark" wrote:

> Most likely your current HP version is OEM.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/
> (An upgrade Product Key requires that you revert to XP SP2 prior to using it
> to install x64 from Vista x86.)
>
> See section:
> Installing Vista x64 on a system already running 32-bit version of Vista.
> Just follow the instructions.
>
> Key factors in being successful:
> 1. Make sure all drivers needed are available out there. They must be x64
> versions to work.
> Some components still have trouble until x64 is installed. You may want
> to remove them first:
> a. Creative sound cards.
> b. SLI graphics
> c. Mixed SATA and IDE drives. (only have one installed while installing
> x64)
> When done, put them back in one at a time.
> 2. When installing, elect not to update Vista until you are all done.
> 3. If for some reason, it errs prior to complete install, just start the x64
> DVD again. You don't have to install XP again.
>
> To make uses of all memory, ensure you "remap" the memory hole through your
> BIOS. If this function is not available in the BIOS, you may need to update
> the BIOS. If still not available, I would question the need to go to x64.
>
> As everyone will be happy to point out semantics... this is not an upgrade,
> but a clean install. Nothing will survive so copy all your files first to a
> safe location.
> E-mail addresses transfer by WET.
>
> Good luck!
> Let us know how it goes.
> I've been on x64 since Vista was released and it's rock solid.
>
>
>
> "Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
> news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
> > Hello ALL,
> >
> > About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
> > upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded all
> > went
> > smooth no problems.
> >
> > Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
> > Pavillion
> > Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The new
> > PC
> > came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista Ultimate
> > 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
> >
> > My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
> > allocation?
> > If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
> > 64-Bit.
> >
> > Thanks ~~ Gunny
>

Boot the computer with the x64 dvd from your media kit and just do it. The
copy of Vista presently on the computer is eligible for upgrade to Vista by
definition so x64 Setup will allow you to proceed to a normal installation
of Vista Ultimate x64 upon entry of the Upgrade Edition pk. It's as simple
as that.

It will have to be a custom install because an upgrade install from x86 to
x64 is not possible.

I recommend that you perform a classic clean install while you are at it.
When you see the screen that offers you one or more volumes on which to
install you will also see the Disk Tools icon. Use the disk tools to delete
the partition and create a new one. It will not be necessary to format but
you may do so if it makes you feel better (some people do even though it
makes no difference when installing Vista).

Obviously you are going to have to reinstall your apps and restore your
files and settings so prepare accordingly. Remember the part about
gathering your 64bit devices drivers before starting.

You do not have to overwrite VHP if you have an available volume for VU and
an additonal eligible Windows license. You can set up a dual boot system
using an upgrade edition of VU. However, you must own another eligible
license (retail Windows 2000, XP, or Vista) that is not in use (and has not
been used in an upgrade either) to remain in compliance with the VU Eula.
Of course if you have no other licenses then simply delete the VHP volume
and replace it with VU.



"Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
news:E1949720-213F-44C2-9791-...
> WOW Colin! Info overload, just kidding! OK, to clearify:
>
> 1. My NEW HP m9150f - It came pre-installed with Vista Home Premium
> (OEM).
>
> 2. I purchased a RETAIL version of Vista Ultimate, cost was around
> $250.00.
> That purchase gave me 2 DVD's:
> A. Vista Ultimate in 32-Bit - UPGRADE Version
> B. Vista Ultimate in 64-Bit - UPGRADE Version
> C. I purchased the Upgrade about 6-8 months ago. The only thing I have
> are
> the DVD's and a Quick Start Guide in Booklet format.
>
> 3. I used the Vista Ultimate to Upgrade the PC I had then, which was
> using
> XP Pro.
>
> 4. That PC is no longer alive, kicked the bucket about 2 weeks ago, but
> had
> a good 5 year life!
>
> SO, Thats is where I am at. Now, what do I have to do now to get my
> current PC, which has Vista Ultimate 32-Bit, into the 64-BIT WORLD?
>
> Thanks! Gunny
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> How did you upgrade from VHP to VU?
>>
>> Did you purchase a retail copy of VU upgrade edition or did you upgrade
>> via
>> Anytime Upgrade?
>>
>> Was the VHP that came with the new computer preinstalled by HP (I assume
>> so)?
>>
>> A preinstalled (OEM) copy of Vista is not eligible for a free migration
>> to
>> x64 like a retail one is. A retail customer can order a 64bit dvd from
>> Microsoft for shipping and handling but that option is not available to
>> customers whose Vista came preinstalled.
>>
>> However, since you upgraded, if you purchased a retail copy of VU upgrade
>> edition then you are entitled to order a 64bit dvd from Microsoft. The
>> instructions are in the box.
>>
>> If you upgraded via AU you will need to check the media kit you ordered
>> to
>> see if you can order a 64bit dvd (an instruction card is enclosed if you
>> are
>> eligible). If you have not ordered a media kit for your AU upgrade, do
>> so
>> now. Check the website to see if you can order a 64bit dvd or if you are
>> limited to a 32bit dvd (because the AU was 32bit). I have not used AU
>> and
>> the AU FAQ page does not give enough details to tell without going
>> through
>> the AU process to find out.
>>
>> You will need to download the 64bit drivers and utilities from HP.
>>
>> If for some reason you are not eligible for a free x64 dvd as described
>> above, then you will need to purchase a VU upgrade or standard edition at
>> retail.
>>
>> "Seidell23231" <> wrote in message
>> news:60BE1E54-48E0-4BA1-9874-...
>> > Hello ALL,
>> >
>> > About 8 months ago I purchased Vista Ultimate Upgrade, because I was
>> > upgrading the PC I had than from XP Pro to Vista Ultimate. Upgraded
>> > all
>> > went
>> > smooth no problems.
>> >
>> > Fast forward to today. The old PC has passed on and a New PC (HP
>> > Pavillion
>> > Elite m9150f with Intel Core 2 Quad) is home and getting setup. The
>> > new
>> > PC
>> > came with Vista Home Premium 32-Bit. I have upgraded it to Vista
>> > Ultimate
>> > 32-Bit, BUT I want to use the 64-Bit since my PC can handle it.
>> >
>> > My Question is this ~~ Can I upgrade to Vista 64 with my current
>> > allocation?
>> > If YES, please explain, if NO please explain how to fix so I can use
>> > 64-Bit.
>> >
>> > Thanks ~~ Gunny
>>