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      02-29-2008
We've a few vista users (sp1 and no sp) that cannot logout, restart or
reboot. These users are admin...they are part of a domain...logged in as
local admin=no prob...on latest BIOS...laptops and desktops...anyone have a
clue? 100's of other XP sp2 machines on same domain are cool...
 
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      02-29-2008
The hybrid sleep feature and the hibernation feature in Windows Vista may
become unavailable after you use the Disk Cleanup Tool :
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928897

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"vista hater" <vista > wrote in message
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> We've a few vista users (sp1 and no sp) that cannot logout, restart or
> reboot. These users are admin...they are part of a domain...logged in as
> local admin=no prob...on latest BIOS...laptops and desktops...anyone have
> a
> clue? 100's of other XP sp2 machines on same domain are cool...


 
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alexB
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      02-29-2008
Probably it would be helpful if you gave more information. I don't have any
problems with Vista. But I am careful. I take care of guarding against
malware. What is the background? What have you downloaded prior to the
happening? How come a few of you have the same problem? There must be a
common denominator, right? Or there could be. What is it? Could you think of
anything that could cause it?

I suggest you seriously consider malware infestation. Here is a set of
recommendations. You can do many of them in safe mode.

My policy is not to use any 3-rd party anti-malware except Spybot S&D.
Windows Vista offers sufficient protection against malicious software
writers some of them I am sure watch this forum very carefully.

Download Microsoft Windows Baseline Security Analyzer. It is Beta 2.1 for
Vista and I think it is safe to download. Run it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F32921AF-9DBE-4DCE-889E-ECF997EB18E9&displaylang=en>

It will give you all your vulnerabilities, especially in your firewall
settings. You should read the report and if it suggests any changes, you
should consider them.
Your Windows firewall setting will be analyzed.

Download Microsoft® Windows® Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830). It
will want to run upon install. Choose the FULL scan although it may give you
a threatening message that it might take a few hours. It will scan your
entire computer in about half an hour or less if you do not have a lot of
stuff in it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ad724ae0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en>

Some reassuring information: Malicious Software Removal Tool
<http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx>
The Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool helps remove specific,
prevalent malicious software from computers that are running Windows Vista,
Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830

You can also go to Protection Center (Microsoft)
<http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/howsafe.htm?s_cid=mscom_msrt>
and click "Protection Scan." There will be a dropdown menu and a button:
"Launch Full Scan or Vista." You can do it if you wish.

Download and install Spybot Search & Destroy, a great piece of software
which is free for individuals but corporations pay fees. You may be asked
for donations but it is up to you. It is very up to date and every week you
will have to download new updates, sometimes even more often. You should
check for updates every time you run it. It will give you all su*kers
leached into your registry and ask you if you wanted to remove them. Many of
them have masqueraded themselves under MS Windows names like
Windows.something. Do not hesitate to kill them all. You can trust SB S&D.

http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
http://www.spybot.info/en/spybotsd/index.html

It also allows you to IMMUNIZE your system. It means that when you go to a
website and they try to download some kind of a Trojan to you SB S&D will
either kill it silently, or ask you if you want to do it or will kill it and
give you a notice. It is better to let it kill them all in silence.

Exerpts from SB S&D website

<quote starts>
Spybot - Search & Destroy detects and removes spyware, a relatively new
kind of threat not yet covered by common anti-virus applications. Spyware
silently tracks your surfing behaviour to create a marketing profile for you
that is transmitted without your knowledge to the compilers and sold to
advertising companies. If you see new toolbars in your Internet Explorer
that you haven't intentionally installed, if your browser crashes
inexplicably, or if your home page has been "hijacked" (or changed without
your knowledge), your computer is most probably infected with spyware. Even
if you don't see the symptoms, your computer may be infected, because more
and more spyware is emerging. Spybot-S&D is free, so there's no harm giving
it a try to see if something has invaded your computer.

To see a list of threats Spybot-S&D can remove, in the navigation bar at the
left click on Support --> Threats. For an introduction to Spybot-S&D, please
read the tutorial. If you fear incompatibility with other software you are
now using, although we can assure you that there is no danger you can review
our compatibility overview which lists some software whose compatibility has
been analyzed.

Spybot-S&D can also clean usage tracks, an interesting function if you share
your computer with other users and don't want them to see what you have been
working on. And for professional users, Spybot-S&D allows you to fix some
registry inconsistencies and extended reports. A list of all the
application's features is also available.
<End of quote>

After you installed SB S&D Windows IE will *****integrate***** it into its
Tools Menu. In the right upper corner of IE click Tools and you will see
Spybot Search And destroy configuration item. Click on it and it will give
you options to deal with the threats that are being downloaded.


Listen to Mark Russinovich's (MS) webcast: Advanced Malware Cleaning

<http://www.microsoft.com/emea/spotlight/sessionh.aspx?videoid=359>

Downloading any 3-rd party "free" anti-spyware program (with teh exception
SB S&D) is an invitation for a disaster.

The AV (antivirus industry) is on the way to the cemetery:
The slow death of AV technology:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/08/death_of_av/
Vista did it in.
Last note: it has been suggested around here by some unscrupulous trolls
that the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and SB S&D do not
clean the registry. MSRT and SB S&D work on different principles. MSRT in
full mode reads RAM memory and detects patterns in the files that match
known viruses and other malware configuraions. This is why it takes so long
to run. If malicious code is detected it is also quite likely that it has a
representation in the registry. The only way to remove a particular piece of
malware is to CLEAN the registry off of this key.
SB S&D works by going thru the registry and locating known names that match
its database of malicious software. After all culprits are found the user is
asked if he/she want to remove the malicious software. If you say OK, then
the registry IS CLEANED of this set of malicious execs. The execs themselves
are killed in the respective folders.
In this sense both tools do CLEAN the registry. They do not do any
"housekeeping" which is absolutely superfluous and unnecessary. It is NOT
recommended by MS and most of the experienced users as well.

*******************************
Additional security measure
To prevent unauthorized breaks into your computer, go to Computer
management, and disable Disable "Internet Guest Account." Make sure "Guest"
account is disabled. It should be disabled by default.






"vista hater" <vista > wrote in message
news:07EC6F81-BA23-40E3-9BED-...
> We've a few vista users (sp1 and no sp) that cannot logout, restart or
> reboot. These users are admin...they are part of a domain...logged in as
> local admin=no prob...on latest BIOS...laptops and desktops...anyone have
> a
> clue? 100's of other XP sp2 machines on same domain are cool...


 
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NoStop
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      02-29-2008
alexB wrote:

> Probably it would be helpful if you gave more information. I don't have
> any problems with Vista. But I am careful. I take care of guarding against
> malware. What is the background? What have you downloaded prior to the
> happening? How come a few of you have the same problem? There must be a
> common denominator, right? Or there could be. What is it? Could you think
> of anything that could cause it?
>
> I suggest you seriously consider malware infestation. Here is a set of
> recommendations. You can do many of them in safe mode.
>
> My policy is not to use any 3-rd party anti-malware except Spybot S&D.
> Windows Vista offers sufficient protection against malicious software
> writers some of them I am sure watch this forum very carefully.
>
> Download Microsoft Windows Baseline Security Analyzer. It is Beta 2.1 for
> Vista and I think it is safe to download. Run it.
>
>

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=F32921AF-9DBE-4DCE-889E-ECF997EB18E9&displaylang=en>
>
> It will give you all your vulnerabilities, especially in your firewall
> settings. You should read the report and if it suggests any changes, you
> should consider them.
> Your Windows firewall setting will be analyzed.
>
> Download Microsoft® Windows® Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830).
> It will want to run upon install. Choose the FULL scan although it may
> give you a threatening message that it might take a few hours. It will
> scan your entire computer in about half an hour or less if you do not have
> a lot of stuff in it.
>
>

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ad724ae0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en>
>
> Some reassuring information: Malicious Software Removal Tool
> <http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx>
> The Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool helps remove
> specific, prevalent malicious software from computers that are running
> Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows 2000
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830
>
> You can also go to Protection Center (Microsoft)
> <http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/howsafe.htm?s_cid=mscom_msrt>
> and click "Protection Scan." There will be a dropdown menu and a button:
> "Launch Full Scan or Vista." You can do it if you wish.
>
> Download and install Spybot Search & Destroy, a great piece of software
> which is free for individuals but corporations pay fees. You may be asked
> for donations but it is up to you. It is very up to date and every week
> you will have to download new updates, sometimes even more often. You
> should check for updates every time you run it. It will give you all
> su*kers leached into your registry and ask you if you wanted to remove
> them. Many of them have masqueraded themselves under MS Windows names like
> Windows.something. Do not hesitate to kill them all. You can trust SB S&D.
>
> http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
> http://www.spybot.info/en/spybotsd/index.html
>
> It also allows you to IMMUNIZE your system. It means that when you go to a
> website and they try to download some kind of a Trojan to you SB S&D will
> either kill it silently, or ask you if you want to do it or will kill it
> and give you a notice. It is better to let it kill them all in silence.
>
> Exerpts from SB S&D website
>
> <quote starts>
> Spybot - Search & Destroy detects and removes spyware, a relatively new
> kind of threat not yet covered by common anti-virus applications. Spyware
> silently tracks your surfing behaviour to create a marketing profile for
> you that is transmitted without your knowledge to the compilers and sold
> to advertising companies. If you see new toolbars in your Internet
> Explorer that you haven't intentionally installed, if your browser crashes
> inexplicably, or if your home page has been "hijacked" (or changed without
> your knowledge), your computer is most probably infected with spyware.
> Even if you don't see the symptoms, your computer may be infected, because
> more and more spyware is emerging. Spybot-S&D is free, so there's no harm
> giving it a try to see if something has invaded your computer.
>
> To see a list of threats Spybot-S&D can remove, in the navigation bar at
> the left click on Support --> Threats. For an introduction to Spybot-S&D,
> please read the tutorial. If you fear incompatibility with other software
> you are now using, although we can assure you that there is no danger you
> can review our compatibility overview which lists some software whose
> compatibility has been analyzed.
>
> Spybot-S&D can also clean usage tracks, an interesting function if you
> share your computer with other users and don't want them to see what you
> have been working on. And for professional users, Spybot-S&D allows you to
> fix some registry inconsistencies and extended reports. A list of all the
> application's features is also available.
> <End of quote>
>
> After you installed SB S&D Windows IE will *****integrate***** it into its
> Tools Menu. In the right upper corner of IE click Tools and you will see
> Spybot Search And destroy configuration item. Click on it and it will give
> you options to deal with the threats that are being downloaded.
>
>
> Listen to Mark Russinovich's (MS) webcast: Advanced Malware Cleaning
>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/emea/spotlight/sessionh.aspx?videoid=359>
>
> Downloading any 3-rd party "free" anti-spyware program (with teh exception
> SB S&D) is an invitation for a disaster.
>
> The AV (antivirus industry) is on the way to the cemetery:
> The slow death of AV technology:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/08/death_of_av/
> Vista did it in.
> Last note: it has been suggested around here by some unscrupulous trolls
> that the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and SB S&D do
> not clean the registry. MSRT and SB S&D work on different principles. MSRT
> in full mode reads RAM memory and detects patterns in the files that match
> known viruses and other malware configuraions. This is why it takes so
> long to run. If malicious code is detected it is also quite likely that it
> has a representation in the registry. The only way to remove a particular
> piece of malware is to CLEAN the registry off of this key.
> SB S&D works by going thru the registry and locating known names that
> match its database of malicious software. After all culprits are found the
> user is asked if he/she want to remove the malicious software. If you say
> OK, then the registry IS CLEANED of this set of malicious execs. The execs
> themselves are killed in the respective folders.
> In this sense both tools do CLEAN the registry. They do not do any
> "housekeeping" which is absolutely superfluous and unnecessary. It is NOT
> recommended by MS and most of the experienced users as well.
>
> *******************************
> Additional security measure
> To prevent unauthorized breaks into your computer, go to Computer
> management, and disable Disable "Internet Guest Account." Make sure
> "Guest" account is disabled. It should be disabled by default.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "vista hater" <vista > wrote in message
> news:07EC6F81-BA23-40E3-9BED-...
>> We've a few vista users (sp1 and no sp) that cannot logout, restart or
>> reboot. These users are admin...they are part of a domain...logged in as
>> local admin=no prob...on latest BIOS...laptops and desktops...anyone have
>> a
>> clue? 100's of other XP sp2 machines on same domain are cool...


Hey, you missed the part of your regular boilerplate where you talk
of "de-lousing" your Vista system. Where'd that go? You're missing the most
crucial part of your long-winding gibberish.

Cheers.

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Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
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      02-29-2008
Please don't listen to alexb, he is the local village idiot

"vista hater" <vista > wrote in message
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> We've a few vista users (sp1 and no sp) that cannot logout, restart or
> reboot. These users are admin...they are part of a domain...logged in as
> local admin=no prob...on latest BIOS...laptops and desktops...anyone have
> a
> clue? 100's of other XP sp2 machines on same domain are cool...
>


 
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