Vista = Windows 7 ?

Hmm, I installed the Windows 7 RC on a perfectly good 5 year old (AMD Athlon
2500) legacy system and noticed that it worked exceptionally well
(perfectly) - which was odd because Vista did not work at all well on the
same system 6 months ago (serious driver problems).

I tried Vista again and noticed that the Vista Windows Update downloaded
exactly the same drivers as the Windows 7 RC.

Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for what
should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?

Gareth.

No. Windows 7, while using the same architectural models is an improvement
over Vista. It also come with a new interface and improved UAC. A lot of
stuff has been re-worked, so it has earned the badge of new operating system
rather than just 'service pack'. It's faster, more stable, with a smaller
footprint both when running in RAM and on hard disk. Much of the
architecture is the same just for your reason i.e. to make sure the old
Vista drivers/software will work with the new system. That way, the switch
to Windows 7 should go much better than was the switch from XP to Vista.

When it comes to pricing, Windows 7 will be less expensive. As a matter of
fact, you can pre-order right now at a steep discount:

http://community.winsupersite.com/bl...in-the-us.aspx

And there is strong indication that there might be 'Family Pack' pricing
available:

http://community.winsupersite.com/bl...u-pricing.aspx

Here are some more links to webpages about Windows 7:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/

Saucy


"Gareth" <hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hmm, I installed the Windows 7 RC on a perfectly good 5 year old (AMD
> Athlon 2500) legacy system and noticed that it worked exceptionally well
> (perfectly) - which was odd because Vista did not work at all well on the
> same system 6 months ago (serious driver problems).
>
> I tried Vista again and noticed that the Vista Windows Update downloaded
> exactly the same drivers as the Windows 7 RC.
>
> Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for
> what should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?
>
> Gareth.
>
>
>

"Bill Yanaire" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Gareth" <hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4a55154b$0$18251$...
>> Hmm, I installed the Windows 7 RC on a perfectly good 5 year old (AMD
>> Athlon 2500) legacy system and noticed that it worked exceptionally well
>> (perfectly) - which was odd because Vista did not work at all well on the
>> same system 6 months ago (serious driver problems).
>>
>> I tried Vista again and noticed that the Vista Windows Update downloaded
>> exactly the same drivers as the Windows 7 RC.
>>
>> Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for
>> what should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?
>>
>> Gareth.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You can call it what you want. Windows 7 was written using some of the
> Vista code base.
>
> Vista = Vista
> Windows 7 = Windows 7


"Some" of the Vista code base? Pretty close to all of it I would guess.

Gareth.

Yes, although there are also some new features.
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"Gareth" <hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hmm, I installed the Windows 7 RC on a perfectly good 5 year old (AMD
> Athlon 2500) legacy system and noticed that it worked exceptionally well
> (perfectly) - which was odd because Vista did not work at all well on the
> same system 6 months ago (serious driver problems).
>
> I tried Vista again and noticed that the Vista Windows Update downloaded
> exactly the same drivers as the Windows 7 RC.
>
> Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for
> what should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?
>
> Gareth.
>
>
>

Yes I agree for the most part Saucy and I really like 7. I was confused
though on the issue of hardware support and drivers when it came to my home
PC video card. I have an ATI Radeon 1650 Pro PCI-express and it works fine. I
went to run Second Life and couldn't because it said the card didn't meet
min. requirements. I run SL in Vista and XP Pro fine from this same box. The
maddening thing is that ATI will not support the card for Win 7. I do need to
qualify this and say this with Win 7 beta, I haven't installed the RC yet. I
really hate to have to buy a new video card when it seems to be operating
fine until I hit one application that doesn't like it. In general Win 7 is
great!

Jon

"Saucy" wrote:

> No. Windows 7, while using the same architectural models is an improvement
> over Vista. It also come with a new interface and improved UAC. A lot of
> stuff has been re-worked, so it has earned the badge of new operating system
> rather than just 'service pack'. It's faster, more stable, with a smaller
> footprint both when running in RAM and on hard disk. Much of the
> architecture is the same just for your reason i.e. to make sure the old
> Vista drivers/software will work with the new system. That way, the switch
> to Windows 7 should go much better than was the switch from XP to Vista.
>
> When it comes to pricing, Windows 7 will be less expensive. As a matter of
> fact, you can pre-order right now at a steep discount:
>
> http://community.winsupersite.com/bl...in-the-us.aspx
>
> And there is strong indication that there might be 'Family Pack' pricing
> available:
>
> http://community.winsupersite.com/bl...u-pricing.aspx
>
> Here are some more links to webpages about Windows 7:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/
>
> Saucy
>
>
> "Gareth" <hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4a55154b$0$18251$...
> > Hmm, I installed the Windows 7 RC on a perfectly good 5 year old (AMD
> > Athlon 2500) legacy system and noticed that it worked exceptionally well
> > (perfectly) - which was odd because Vista did not work at all well on the
> > same system 6 months ago (serious driver problems).
> >
> > I tried Vista again and noticed that the Vista Windows Update downloaded
> > exactly the same drivers as the Windows 7 RC.
> >
> > Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for
> > what should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?
> >
> > Gareth.
> >
> >
> >
>

"JonK" <> wrote in message
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> Yes I agree for the most part Saucy and I really like 7. I was confused
> though on the issue of hardware support and drivers when it came to my
> home
> PC video card. I have an ATI Radeon 1650 Pro PCI-express and it works
> fine. I
> went to run Second Life and couldn't because it said the card didn't meet
> min. requirements. I run SL in Vista and XP Pro fine from this same box.
> The
> maddening thing is that ATI will not support the card for Win 7. I do need
> to
> qualify this and say this with Win 7 beta, I haven't installed the RC yet.
> I
> really hate to have to buy a new video card when it seems to be operating
> fine until I hit one application that doesn't like it. In general Win 7 is
> great!
>
> Jon
>
Radeon has always had issues with compatibility such as where you say it
should meet minimum requirements for a game but the game says it doesn't.
Sometimes an updated driver will fix that. Sometimes games have updates to
fix that.
I wouldn't expect them to have an updated driver for a beta OS. Check for
one for W7 after the official release date.
I've heard people say Radeon cards get better performance, but Nvidia cards
have alwys had better compatibility.

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:53:15 +0100, "Gareth"
<hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote:

>
>Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for what
>should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?

Exactly. It's SP3. But, MS will be gouging you for money to get SP3...
'cause they can.

Gareth wrote:

> Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for
> what should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?
>
> Gareth.
>
>


I smell troll-bait.

"+Bob+" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:53:15 +0100, "Gareth"
> <hotmail.com@dgareth_nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Is it the case that Windows 7 is essentially a maintenance release for
>>what
>>should have been a correctly functioning and free Vista update?
>
> Exactly. It's SP3. But, MS will be gouging you for money to get SP3...
> 'cause they can.

This is interesting because I've noticed that since the Windows 7 RC release
a number of Vista drivers have also been updated. That said I notice that
Windows 7 does seem to be more effective in using mobo power management
features: I could never get any sort of sleep or hibernation function to
work with Vista (monitors would never wake up) but it works fine on exactly
the same mobo with Windows 7. I'm almost tempted to un-shadow "sleep" in the
Vista start menu to see if the problem has been corrected.

The Windows 7 "deal" feels like a bit of a ripp off - if, as seems to be the
case, it is simply fixing deficits in Vista whilst adding only a little
extra obvious functionality then it is not good. It even feels like Vista.

Gareth.

Will Windos 7 Home Premium serve as a host for remote connections.
Presently only WindowsXP Pro or Vista Ultimate are needed to serve as
host for remote connections. I think some other editions of XP and
Vista may also serve as hosts.