Vista woes, fresh install

Hello all,

I decided to make the most of my MSDN subscription and give Vista a go,
since my XP installation was very slow. I wiped the drive clean and installed
Vista Ultimate SP1 - with an open mind and high hopes.

It took a while to install, but time aside it was rather painless. However,
my experience started to go downhill quickly. As a first step, I opened up IE
and went straight to AVG's website to get some Antivirus protection. IE
crashed. Ok, so I tried a few other websites. IE crashed rather often, in
fact it's not random it'll crash on the same websites every time. So I
managed to get Firefox installed without having IE crash - and tried to do
all my updating through Firefox (not much choice).

My second bad experience was when I tried to install MSN Messanger. First
off, the online downloader/installer didn't work. Says it couldn't install
and to try again later. So I opted for the standalone installer (took a while
to find) and tried it. It installed, but unfortunately it constantly crashes
with various exceptions, seems to be related to the rotating ads but can't be
sure. I have even tried to install Flash & Java and still no luck with the
wierd exceptions. I also made sure I updated my video drivers to the latest
ATI drivers available.

Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an ATI
Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and I'm
not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP at
all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience, but
hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

Oops. What Am I Saying? This Is For Help With Vista Issues, Not My Mental
Issues. Just FYI.

Did You Know That I Say Just FYI All The Time? Just FYI. This Is Because
Messages Are Just For Your Information And My Poor Mentally Retarted Brain
Doesn't Know That So I Have To Say Just FYI.

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Did I Say Just FYI? IF Not, Just FYI

"replaysMike" <> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> I decided to make the most of my MSDN subscription and give Vista a go,
> since my XP installation was very slow. I wiped the drive clean and
> installed
> Vista Ultimate SP1 - with an open mind and high hopes.
>
> It took a while to install, but time aside it was rather painless.
> However,
> my experience started to go downhill quickly. As a first step, I opened up
> IE
> and went straight to AVG's website to get some Antivirus protection. IE
> crashed. Ok, so I tried a few other websites. IE crashed rather often, in
> fact it's not random it'll crash on the same websites every time. So I
> managed to get Firefox installed without having IE crash - and tried to do
> all my updating through Firefox (not much choice).
>
> My second bad experience was when I tried to install MSN Messanger. First
> off, the online downloader/installer didn't work. Says it couldn't install
> and to try again later. So I opted for the standalone installer (took a
> while
> to find) and tried it. It installed, but unfortunately it constantly
> crashes
> with various exceptions, seems to be related to the rotating ads but can't
> be
> sure. I have even tried to install Flash & Java and still no luck with the
> wierd exceptions. I also made sure I updated my video drivers to the
> latest
> ATI drivers available.
>
> Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
> unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an
> ATI
> Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and
> I'm
> not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP
> at
> all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
> driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience,
> but
> hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

It is my opinion that unless you are getting new hardware, with a minimum
2Ghz dual core CPU/2GB RAM/256MB Video that you won't be happy with Vista.
I have tried it on several different machines and haven't been happy with
any of them.
I even got 2 machines with Vista factory installed that exceed the above
criteria and still think it sucks.
I found XP drivers and converted one to XP and the other dual boots with XP.
I only boot to Vista when I in a masochistic mood...

"replaysMike" <> wrote in message
news:94FD95AB-3C58-4F61-8198-...
> Hello all,
>
> I decided to make the most of my MSDN subscription and give Vista a go,
> since my XP installation was very slow. I wiped the drive clean and
> installed
> Vista Ultimate SP1 - with an open mind and high hopes.
>
> It took a while to install, but time aside it was rather painless.
> However,
> my experience started to go downhill quickly. As a first step, I opened up
> IE
> and went straight to AVG's website to get some Antivirus protection. IE
> crashed. Ok, so I tried a few other websites. IE crashed rather often, in
> fact it's not random it'll crash on the same websites every time. So I
> managed to get Firefox installed without having IE crash - and tried to do
> all my updating through Firefox (not much choice).
>
> My second bad experience was when I tried to install MSN Messanger. First
> off, the online downloader/installer didn't work. Says it couldn't install
> and to try again later. So I opted for the standalone installer (took a
> while
> to find) and tried it. It installed, but unfortunately it constantly
> crashes
> with various exceptions, seems to be related to the rotating ads but can't
> be
> sure. I have even tried to install Flash & Java and still no luck with the
> wierd exceptions. I also made sure I updated my video drivers to the
> latest
> ATI drivers available.
>
> Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
> unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an
> ATI
> Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and
> I'm
> not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP
> at
> all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
> driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience,
> but
> hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

Not Me wrote:
> It is my opinion that unless you are getting new hardware, with a
> minimum 2Ghz dual core CPU/2GB RAM/256MB Video that you won't be happy
> with Vista.
> I have tried it on several different machines and haven't been happy
> with any of them.
> I even got 2 machines with Vista factory installed that exceed the above
> criteria and still think it sucks.
> I found XP drivers and converted one to XP and the other dual boots with
> XP.
> I only boot to Vista when I in a masochistic mood...

So you're only in this Vista ng because you're a masochist?
Is that correct?
Frank

On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:06:02 -0700, replaysMike
<> wrote:

>Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
>unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an ATI
>Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and I'm
>not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP at
>all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
>driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience, but
>hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

Did you run the Vista upgrade advisor before installing?

I did - but I was only interested in running Home Basic. It said my
machine would be fine, except that I would have to get rid of Nero OEM
and my scanner. It was "iffy" about my sound card (mobo onboard) but
that's working fine too.

Turns out my scanner also works fine, because the manufacturer came up
with Vista drivers recently.

Your rants are funny not painful, they don't cause any pain besides the
sides hurting from laughing...
But I do support a couple hundred XP machines and do computer repair on the
side.
I learn all new Windows releases because I have to support it, like it or
not.
I can make Vista work, I just don't like the way it works.
I'm glad YOU like it, that doesn't make someone with a different opinion any
less intelligent.
It's no different than if you like plaid and I like stripes.

"Frank" <> wrote in message
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> Not Me wrote:
>> It is my opinion that unless you are getting new hardware, with a minimum
>> 2Ghz dual core CPU/2GB RAM/256MB Video that you won't be happy with
>> Vista.
>> I have tried it on several different machines and haven't been happy with
>> any of them.
>> I even got 2 machines with Vista factory installed that exceed the above
>> criteria and still think it sucks.
>> I found XP drivers and converted one to XP and the other dual boots with
>> XP.
>> I only boot to Vista when I in a masochistic mood...
>
> So you're only in this Vista ng because you're a masochist?
> Is that correct?
> Frank

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able to activate and Genuine Validate any copy of MS Windows® like Windows®
XP™, Windows® Vista™, and Office. I know The technological measures used in
Genuine Windows® Activation and Genuine Validation like Windows Product
Activation WPA, Microsoft Product Activation MPA mechanism and how its work.
It is the technology that I used has developed by Microsoft itself I can’t
make that technology but implement that technology, So now I am able to
completely and successfully do that with out any problem or condition (MPA,
WPA, WGA)


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"replaysMike" wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I decided to make the most of my MSDN subscription and give Vista a go,
> since my XP installation was very slow. I wiped the drive clean and installed
> Vista Ultimate SP1 - with an open mind and high hopes.
>
> It took a while to install, but time aside it was rather painless. However,
> my experience started to go downhill quickly. As a first step, I opened up IE
> and went straight to AVG's website to get some Antivirus protection. IE
> crashed. Ok, so I tried a few other websites. IE crashed rather often, in
> fact it's not random it'll crash on the same websites every time. So I
> managed to get Firefox installed without having IE crash - and tried to do
> all my updating through Firefox (not much choice).
>
> My second bad experience was when I tried to install MSN Messanger. First
> off, the online downloader/installer didn't work. Says it couldn't install
> and to try again later. So I opted for the standalone installer (took a while
> to find) and tried it. It installed, but unfortunately it constantly crashes
> with various exceptions, seems to be related to the rotating ads but can't be
> sure. I have even tried to install Flash & Java and still no luck with the
> wierd exceptions. I also made sure I updated my video drivers to the latest
> ATI drivers available.
>
> Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
> unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an ATI
> Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and I'm
> not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP at
> all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
> driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience, but
> hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

Just how much hot air can you blow through your own horn?

"johnnn" <> wrote in message
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> Dear; Dear people please read and decide what i should do now with my
> skills
> and learnings, please do help me recognising by Microsoft corp.
> I know you are an MVP, Microsoft certified professional and you know
> better
> then me the issue you much learn about. The issue here is about Windows
> Genuine Validation and Activation your,
> My address to all MVPs and Microsoft® developers’ network formally known
> as
> MSDN, I am a proficient Microsoft® Windows® user. I am able to do any job
> task in Microsoft® Windows® software, as the current issue is concern it
> is
> the issue of my expertise. I wanna to tell everyone of you all that I
> have
> the expertise to make copy of any Microsoft® software like Windows® and
> Office® as legal and Genuine Validate because I have that technology
> developed by Microsoft® corporation, I am a half software developer. I am
> able to activate and Genuine Validate any copy of MS Windows® like
> Windows®
> XP™, Windows® Vista™, and Office. I know The technological measures used
> in
> Genuine Windows® Activation and Genuine Validation like Windows Product
> Activation WPA, Microsoft Product Activation MPA mechanism and how its
> work.
> It is the technology that I used has developed by Microsoft itself I can’t
> make that technology but implement that technology, So now I am able to
> completely and successfully do that with out any problem or condition
> (MPA,
> WPA, WGA)
>
>
> --
> i wanna give you best possible solution of your Windows troubleshootings /
> operating system problems, Dear, my E-Mail address is
> ,
> you can feel free to e-mail me any time,
>
>
> "replaysMike" wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I decided to make the most of my MSDN subscription and give Vista a go,
>> since my XP installation was very slow. I wiped the drive clean and
>> installed
>> Vista Ultimate SP1 - with an open mind and high hopes.
>>
>> It took a while to install, but time aside it was rather painless.
>> However,
>> my experience started to go downhill quickly. As a first step, I opened
>> up IE
>> and went straight to AVG's website to get some Antivirus protection. IE
>> crashed. Ok, so I tried a few other websites. IE crashed rather often, in
>> fact it's not random it'll crash on the same websites every time. So I
>> managed to get Firefox installed without having IE crash - and tried to
>> do
>> all my updating through Firefox (not much choice).
>>
>> My second bad experience was when I tried to install MSN Messanger. First
>> off, the online downloader/installer didn't work. Says it couldn't
>> install
>> and to try again later. So I opted for the standalone installer (took a
>> while
>> to find) and tried it. It installed, but unfortunately it constantly
>> crashes
>> with various exceptions, seems to be related to the rotating ads but
>> can't be
>> sure. I have even tried to install Flash & Java and still no luck with
>> the
>> wierd exceptions. I also made sure I updated my video drivers to the
>> latest
>> ATI drivers available.
>>
>> Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
>> unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an
>> ATI
>> Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and
>> I'm
>> not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP
>> at
>> all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
>> driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience,
>> but
>> hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:34:45 -0700, Frank <> wrote:

>Not Me wrote:
>> It is my opinion that unless you are getting new hardware, with a
>> minimum 2Ghz dual core CPU/2GB RAM/256MB Video that you won't be happy
>> with Vista.
>> I have tried it on several different machines and haven't been happy
>> with any of them.
>> I even got 2 machines with Vista factory installed that exceed the above
>> criteria and still think it sucks.
>> I found XP drivers and converted one to XP and the other dual boots with
>> XP.
>> I only boot to Vista when I in a masochistic mood...
>
>So you're only in this Vista ng because you're a masochist?
>Is that correct?
>Frank

The only reason Frank is in this newsgroup is for people to **** all
over him. He likes that.

> Performance is ok, and I do like the interface, but IE7 is virtually
> unusable and so is Messenger. I am running a Dell P4 3.0Ghz HT, with an
> ATI
> Radeon 9800XT 128MB, 2GB of ram. Of course, this is a fresh install and
> I'm
> not sure what could be causing these problems. I had no problems with XP
> at
> all, I'm thinking either hardware incompatability or I need to update a
> driver somewhere. So far I've had a rather unpleasant initial experience,
> but
> hoping to stick it out and see if it can be solved. Suggestions?

Run Windows Update and install any hardware drivers are offered. Also try
the Dell web site where you can easily find drivers (and possibly a BIOS
update) for your computer by entering the tag number. I'm running Vista SP1
on a computer that originally came with XP with similar specs - it runs fine
so your problem is not a lack of power. The only upgrade I'd suggest is
another gig of ram after you get the system running reliably.