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speedracer
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      03-31-2008

Not wanting to start any flame war or 'tastes better tastes great'
debate, but I am curious as to the advantage(s)(?) of x32 vs x64. I have
tried both and really can't tell the difference when up and running. I
am using the 64 bit drivers for my devices and have NO 64 bit programs.
My machine has an AMD64x2 4800 running 4 gig ram and a 500 gig drive.
When I switched from Vista 32 bit to the 64 I thought I was going to see
dramatic results but no... Have followed the tutorials to adjust as
needed/wanted still not difference. So, unless doing some graphic
intensive or mathematically intensive work utilizing a 64 bit program
when will I and others ever see any advantage to keeping the 64 bit os??
Your thoughts please....


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      03-31-2008

speedracer;668169 Wrote:
> Not wanting to start any flame war or 'tastes better tastes great
> debate, but I am curious as to the advantage(s)(?) of x32 vs x64. I hav
> tried both and really can't tell the difference when up and running.
> am using the 64 bit drivers for my devices and have NO 64 bit programs
> My machine has an AMD64x2 4800 running 4 gig ram and a 500 gig drive
> When I switched from Vista 32 bit to the 64 I thought I was going to se
> dramatic results but no... Have followed the tutorials to adjust a
> needed/wanted still not difference. So, unless doing some graphi
> intensive or mathematically intensive work utilizing a 64 bit progra
> when will I and others ever see any advantage to keeping the 64 bit os?
> Your thoughts please...


- *Enforced Driver Signing* - Improves stability and reliabilit
- *More Memory* - 64 Bit can use more memory, in excess of 16TB. 3
Bit, by it's very nature, is limited to 4GB memory ((2^32) / 1024)
1024 = 4096MB
- *Better Memory Management* - whether you're running x64 or x8
programs on Vista x64, the improved memory management does improv
performance. Some of the older games I have (Diablo II, in particular
runs better on Vista x64 than it ever did on Windows XP.Those, at least, are my favorite enhancements. You can get more detaile
information on the Microsoft websie a
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John Barnes
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      03-31-2008
If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the only
benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond 4 gig.

"speedracer" <> wrote in message
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>
> Not wanting to start any flame war or 'tastes better tastes great'
> debate, but I am curious as to the advantage(s)(?) of x32 vs x64. I have
> tried both and really can't tell the difference when up and running. I
> am using the 64 bit drivers for my devices and have NO 64 bit programs.
> My machine has an AMD64x2 4800 running 4 gig ram and a 500 gig drive.
> When I switched from Vista 32 bit to the 64 I thought I was going to see
> dramatic results but no... Have followed the tutorials to adjust as
> needed/wanted still not difference. So, unless doing some graphic
> intensive or mathematically intensive work utilizing a 64 bit program
> when will I and others ever see any advantage to keeping the 64 bit os??
> Your thoughts please....
>
>
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      03-31-2008

64-bit computing in theory and practice
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"speedracer" <> wrote in message
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>
> Not wanting to start any flame war or 'tastes better tastes great'
> debate, but I am curious as to the advantage(s)(?) of x32 vs x64. I have
> tried both and really can't tell the difference when up and running. I
> am using the 64 bit drivers for my devices and have NO 64 bit programs.
> My machine has an AMD64x2 4800 running 4 gig ram and a 500 gig drive.
> When I switched from Vista 32 bit to the 64 I thought I was going to see
> dramatic results but no... Have followed the tutorials to adjust as
> needed/wanted still not difference. So, unless doing some graphic
> intensive or mathematically intensive work utilizing a 64 bit program
> when will I and others ever see any advantage to keeping the 64 bit os??
> Your thoughts please....
>
>
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Bob Campbell
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      03-31-2008
"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
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> If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the only
> benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond 4 gig.


Which alone is reason enough to use 64 bit. I use multiple VMs every day
(XP, Server 2003, Server 2008) in my development work, and need the RAM.
I'll be going to 8 GB soon. I can't believe I'm saying this, but - 4 GB is
just not enough!

 
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John Barnes
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      03-31-2008
Personally, I have been using 64-bit since beta XP64 and exclusively 64-bit
since XP64 RTM. If nothing else, the future is 64-bit and using it forces
you to carefully select hardware and software that will have a better chance
of survival into the next generation.

"Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
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> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the only
>> benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond 4 gig.

>
> Which alone is reason enough to use 64 bit. I use multiple VMs every day
> (XP, Server 2003, Server 2008) in my development work, and need the RAM.
> I'll be going to 8 GB soon. I can't believe I'm saying this, but - 4 GB
> is just not enough!


 
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Mike Hall - MVP
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      03-31-2008
"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
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> Personally, I have been using 64-bit since beta XP64 and exclusively
> 64-bit since XP64 RTM. If nothing else, the future is 64-bit and using it
> forces you to carefully select hardware and software that will have a
> better chance of survival into the next generation.
>
> "Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
> news:TqSdnXLY7o5m-...
>> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the only
>>> benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond 4 gig.

>>
>> Which alone is reason enough to use 64 bit. I use multiple VMs every
>> day (XP, Server 2003, Server 2008) in my development work, and need the
>> RAM. I'll be going to 8 GB soon. I can't believe I'm saying this, but -
>> 4 GB is just not enough!

>



John

I would go 64bit too, but there is no OneNote 64bit driver available which
in 32bit version enables me to archive my mail to OneNote. There are no
plans to produce one until the next version of Office..

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      03-31-2008
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Personally, I have been using 64-bit since beta XP64 and exclusively
>> 64-bit since XP64 RTM. If nothing else, the future is 64-bit and using
>> it forces you to carefully select hardware and software that will have a
>> better chance of survival into the next generation.
>>
>> "Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
>> news:TqSdnXLY7o5m-...
>>> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the only
>>>> benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond 4
>>>> gig.
>>>
>>> Which alone is reason enough to use 64 bit. I use multiple VMs every
>>> day (XP, Server 2003, Server 2008) in my development work, and need the
>>> RAM. I'll be going to 8 GB soon. I can't believe I'm saying this,
>>> but - 4 GB is just not enough!

>>

>
>
> John
>
> I would go 64bit too, but there is no OneNote 64bit driver available which
> in 32bit version enables me to archive my mail to OneNote. There are no
> plans to produce one until the next version of Office..


I am regretting getting Vista x64 pre-installed on my new Dell laptop as I
have since found out that the built-in fingerprint scanner only works with
32-bit Vista and the Western Digital My Book Premium II external HDD only
works with 32-bit also.

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John Barnes
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      04-01-2008
Unfortunately I haven't seen a fingerprint reader that has 64-bit drivers.
Frustrating that Microsoft doesn't even have them for theirs. I am
wondering why there would be a problem with the HD. Have you tried it on
Vista 32-bit to see if it works? How do you connect it?
Also, you might post over in the microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
group and see if anyone over there has found a solution or workaround.


"Qu0ll" <> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Personally, I have been using 64-bit since beta XP64 and exclusively
>>> 64-bit since XP64 RTM. If nothing else, the future is 64-bit and using
>>> it forces you to carefully select hardware and software that will have a
>>> better chance of survival into the next generation.
>>>
>>> "Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
>>> news:TqSdnXLY7o5m-...
>>>> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the
>>>>> only benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond
>>>>> 4 gig.
>>>>
>>>> Which alone is reason enough to use 64 bit. I use multiple VMs every
>>>> day (XP, Server 2003, Server 2008) in my development work, and need the
>>>> RAM. I'll be going to 8 GB soon. I can't believe I'm saying this,
>>>> but - 4 GB is just not enough!
>>>

>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> I would go 64bit too, but there is no OneNote 64bit driver available
>> which in 32bit version enables me to archive my mail to OneNote. There
>> are no plans to produce one until the next version of Office..

>
> I am regretting getting Vista x64 pre-installed on my new Dell laptop as I
> have since found out that the built-in fingerprint scanner only works with
> 32-bit Vista and the Western Digital My Book Premium II external HDD only
> works with 32-bit also.
>
> --
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>
> -Q
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>
> (Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me)


 
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Jane C
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      04-01-2008
Mike,

I've just used Send to OneNote for an email in Outlook and it worked fine.
Ultimate x64, Office Ultimate SP1.


"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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>
> John
>
> I would go 64bit too, but there is no OneNote 64bit driver available which
> in 32bit version enables me to archive my mail to OneNote. There are no
> plans to produce one until the next version of Office..
>
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> How to construct a good post..
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>
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