Vista to XP Pro

We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so basically
the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.

Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I don't
think it will be a problem.

Boria Condrey wrote:
> We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
> Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
> equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so basically
> the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>
> Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I don't
> think it will be a problem.
>
>

The new machine's hardware could be a problem. Make sure that there are
XP drivers for the new hardware. Microsoft and the hardware folks are in
cahoots to make sure you don't "down grade" to XP. If there aren't any
drivers, I would take the machines back and insist on machines with XP Pro.

Alias

"Boria Condrey" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
> Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
> equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so
> basically the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>
> Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I
> don't think it will be a problem.

I went back to XP after a few months because some of my 3D and CAD software
just works faster with it.

If you are just talking about normal office type applications, it would be
less hassle for you to investigate whether you can get them running on
Vista, rather than installing XP and then having to find XP drivers for your
new hardware.

What apps are not working with Vista?

ss.

contact the company you got them from and ask if you are entitled to
downgrade rights to xp and if they have drivers for your computers for xp

with downgrade rights you get a free copy of xp pro to install on those
machines


"Boria Condrey" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
> Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
> equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so
> basically the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>
> Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I
> don't think it will be a problem.
>

You should try to install older software using Vista's
Program Compatibility Wizard:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...15e641033.mspx


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Boria Condrey" wrote:

We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so basically
the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.

Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I don't
think it will be a problem.

First off let me say that I like Vista from what I have seen so far.

My software is up to date. My problem is Dongles. I have software with
HASP dongles and they are not compatible with Vista. These are specialized
softwares for custom cabinets shops. Enroute from scanvec amiable is one
and Cabnetware from planit solutions is the other. My business does not run
without these two softwares. The software seems to load fine but the dongle
drivers are incompatible. The dongles manufactorers are telling me that it
will be a couple of years before they are compatible with vista, which is
absolutely stupid. Vista has been out over a year I believe. I have never
had any major problems upgrading to newer operating systems until now. I
honestly don't know what else to do but down grade to XP or stop running my
business(and that ain't gon happen)

I will try the compatibility wizard but I don't think it is going to help
unless it will allow the dongles to operate in xp mode.

Thanks,



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You should try to install older software using Vista's
> Program Compatibility Wizard:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...15e641033.mspx
>
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Boria Condrey" wrote:
>
> We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
> Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
> equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so
> basically
> the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>
> Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I
> don't
> think it will be a problem.
>
>

Alias wrote:

> Boria Condrey wrote:
>> We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
>> Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
>> equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so
>> basically the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>>
>> Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I
>> don't think it will be a problem.
>>
>>
>
> The new machine's hardware could be a problem. Make sure that there are
> XP drivers for the new hardware. Microsoft and the hardware folks are in
> cahoots to make sure you don't "down grade" to XP. If there aren't any
> drivers, I would take the machines back and insist on machines with XP
> Pro.
>
> Alias

Reports are that Microsoft is dropping distribution of XP in June of this
year. One would assume that when they stop selling XP, ongoing support for
XP can't be that far behind. Seems to me that relying on XP at this point
in time is a deadend.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

"Boria Condrey" <> wrote in message
news:...
> First off let me say that I like Vista from what I have seen so far.
>
> My software is up to date. My problem is Dongles. I have software with
> HASP dongles and they are not compatible with Vista. These are
> specialized softwares for custom cabinets shops. Enroute from scanvec
> amiable is one and Cabnetware from planit solutions is the other. My
> business does not run without these two softwares. The software seems to
> load fine but the dongle drivers are incompatible. The dongles
> manufactorers are telling me that it will be a couple of years before they
> are compatible with vista, which is absolutely stupid. Vista has been out
> over a year I believe. I have never had any major problems upgrading to
> newer operating systems until now. I honestly don't know what else to do
> but down grade to XP or stop running my business(and that ain't gon
> happen)
>
> I will try the compatibility wizard but I don't think it is going to help
> unless it will allow the dongles to operate in xp mode.


Ah, this is exactly the same problem I had with my ArchiCAD dongle, but
WIBU-KEY sorted out Vista drivers by the time Vista RC2 came out.

Yes, in that case you will need to move back to XP.

If you list all components of your hardware here, I'll tell you if it is
possible. I need motherboard and graphics card, essentially.

ss.

PotsOn wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Boria Condrey wrote:
>>> We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
>>> Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
>>> equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so
>>> basically the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>>>
>>> Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I
>>> don't think it will be a problem.
>>>
>>>
>> The new machine's hardware could be a problem. Make sure that there are
>> XP drivers for the new hardware. Microsoft and the hardware folks are in
>> cahoots to make sure you don't "down grade" to XP. If there aren't any
>> drivers, I would take the machines back and insist on machines with XP
>> Pro.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Reports are that Microsoft is dropping distribution of XP in June of this
> year. One would assume that when they stop selling XP, ongoing support for
> XP can't be that far behind. Seems to me that relying on XP at this point
> in time is a deadend.
>
> Cheers.
>

Microsoft has extended support until the end of the year and who knows
if they will extend it again, what with the miserable excuse for an OS
that Vista is. That said, this is a good reason to start learning Linux :-)

Alias

Boria Condrey wrote:
> First off let me say that I like Vista from what I have seen so far.
>
> My software is up to date. My problem is Dongles. I have software with
> HASP dongles and they are not compatible with Vista. These are specialized
> softwares for custom cabinets shops. Enroute from scanvec amiable is one
> and Cabnetware from planit solutions is the other. My business does not run
> without these two softwares. The software seems to load fine but the dongle
> drivers are incompatible. The dongles manufactorers are telling me that it
> will be a couple of years before they are compatible with vista, which is
> absolutely stupid. Vista has been out over a year I believe. I have never
> had any major problems upgrading to newer operating systems until now. I
> honestly don't know what else to do but down grade to XP or stop running my
> business(and that ain't gon happen)
>
> I will try the compatibility wizard but I don't think it is going to help
> unless it will allow the dongles to operate in xp mode.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>You should try to install older software using Vista's
>>Program Compatibility Wizard:
>>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...15e641033.mspx
>>
>>
>>--
>>Carey Frisch
>>Microsoft MVP
>>Windows Shell/User
>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>"Boria Condrey" wrote:
>>
>>We just bought new computers for the business and they came with Vista
>>Ultimate. Is it possible to go back to XP Pro. After getting the new
>>equipment we a finding out that our software won't run on Vista so
>>basically
>>the computers are useless unless we can revert back to XP Pro.
>>
>>Everything is new right now so if we have to wipe out the hard drive I
>>don't
>>think it will be a problem.
>>
>>
>
>
>
You might consider dual booting. That way you won't lose touch with
Vista yet still be able to use XP when needed.
Frank