Vista's Slow Boot Is Annoying Me

Hello all,

On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy, it's
difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC to
stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because I
thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that my
old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.

I know it's Vista that's lagging because I went into System Configuration
and unchecked everything that was auto loading. After reboot I went back
into System Startup and saw nothing checked. I even checked the Windows
Startup Folder and there's nothing there either. I realize Microsoft is
notorious for loading all kinds of Services that are not required for Windows
to operate. It's my belief that this may be the reason for the looonnng boot
times.

Is anyone else having this experience and if so how to decrease such long
boot times?

-S
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Scientific wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
> reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy, it's
> difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
> doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC to
> stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because I
> thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that my
> old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
>
> I know it's Vista that's lagging because I went into System Configuration
> and unchecked everything that was auto loading. After reboot I went back
> into System Startup and saw nothing checked. I even checked the Windows
> Startup Folder and there's nothing there either. I realize Microsoft is
> notorious for loading all kinds of Services that are not required for Windows
> to operate. It's my belief that this may be the reason for the looonnng boot
> times.
>
> Is anyone else having this experience and if so how to decrease such long
> boot times?

You need to tell us your computer hardware specs and what
antivirus/security programs you have installed before anyone can answer
you. My Vista box - a very ordinary older Dell 400SC server running at
2.8GHz with 1.5GB RAM - takes only a few minutes from hitting the power
button to being usable at the Desktop.


Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"Scientific" <> wrote in message
news:92E39BBC-346E-4C99-88D5-...
> Hello all,
>
> On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
> reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy,
> it's
> difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
> doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC
> to
> stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because I
> thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that my
> old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
>

Something is not right. I timed mine...

40 seconds -from powerup to logon screen
60 seconds - MS Office (Outlook-mail) is starting, Avast Anti Virus also.
90 seconds - I click on Windows Live Mail (use it for newsgroups) to answer
this post.

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"Slap" <> wrote in message
news:y2C2j.50159$PE.20903@pd7urf1no...
>
>
> "Scientific" <> wrote in message
> news:92E39BBC-346E-4C99-88D5-...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
>> reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy,
>> it's
>> difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
>> doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC
>> to
>> stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because
>> I
>> thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that
>> my
>> old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
>>
>
> Something is not right. I timed mine...
>
> 40 seconds -from powerup to logon screen
> 60 seconds - MS Office (Outlook-mail) is starting, Avast Anti Virus also.
> 90 seconds - I click on Windows Live Mail (use it for newsgroups) to
> answer this post.
>

I should state the above times were from a 're-start' not a complete power
up. I did loose a couple of seconds at my boot screen (dual boot) tho.

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Malke,

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 2.2GHz
1022 MB RAM
Dual 250GB Hard Drives

NOD32 Antivirus (currently disabled)
Spyware Doctor (currently disabled)
Windows Firewall

As stated before, I have disabled all software programs so the only thing
that's loading is Windows Vista.

-S


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It is wiser to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


"Malke" wrote:

> Scientific wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
> > reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy, it's
> > difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
> > doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC to
> > stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because I
> > thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that my
> > old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
> >
> > I know it's Vista that's lagging because I went into System Configuration
> > and unchecked everything that was auto loading. After reboot I went back
> > into System Startup and saw nothing checked. I even checked the Windows
> > Startup Folder and there's nothing there either. I realize Microsoft is
> > notorious for loading all kinds of Services that are not required for Windows
> > to operate. It's my belief that this may be the reason for the looonnng boot
> > times.
> >
> > Is anyone else having this experience and if so how to decrease such long
> > boot times?
>
> You need to tell us your computer hardware specs and what
> antivirus/security programs you have installed before anyone can answer
> you. My Vista box - a very ordinary older Dell 400SC server running at
> 2.8GHz with 1.5GB RAM - takes only a few minutes from hitting the power
> button to being usable at the Desktop.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

Scientific wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
> reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy, it's
> difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
> doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC to
> stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because I
> thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that my
> old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
>
> I know it's Vista that's lagging because I went into System Configuration
> and unchecked everything that was auto loading. After reboot I went back
> into System Startup and saw nothing checked. I even checked the Windows
> Startup Folder and there's nothing there either. I realize Microsoft is
> notorious for loading all kinds of Services that are not required for Windows
> to operate. It's my belief that this may be the reason for the looonnng boot
> times.
>
> Is anyone else having this experience and if so how to decrease such long
> boot times?
>
> -S
I had the same problem on a Dell Inspiron E1705 with all the mouse milk
removed. I also disabled most of the stuff on startup. I checked task
manager and looked at the processes running and the only thing using
much processor time was the system. I finally just installed XP pro and
now all is ok.

Eric

Eric,

Thanks for the info. That's an interesting scenario you described. I also
have a Dell machine but I'm not inclined to suspect Dell as a culprit
especially since your machine is now running fine after installing XP. So,
ruling out Dell only leaves me with Vista to look at for answers.

As much as I hate to comtemplate this, I may be better off switching back to
XP which negates my whole purpose for buying a dual core machine just to run
Vista. I've had it with PC's. My next machine will be a MAC.

-S
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It is wiser to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


"Eric" wrote:

> Scientific wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
> > reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy, it's
> > difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
> > doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC to
> > stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because I
> > thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that my
> > old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
> >
> > I know it's Vista that's lagging because I went into System Configuration
> > and unchecked everything that was auto loading. After reboot I went back
> > into System Startup and saw nothing checked. I even checked the Windows
> > Startup Folder and there's nothing there either. I realize Microsoft is
> > notorious for loading all kinds of Services that are not required for Windows
> > to operate. It's my belief that this may be the reason for the looonnng boot
> > times.
> >
> > Is anyone else having this experience and if so how to decrease such long
> > boot times?
> >
> > -S
> I had the same problem on a Dell Inspiron E1705 with all the mouse milk
> removed. I also disabled most of the stuff on startup. I checked task
> manager and looked at the processes running and the only thing using
> much processor time was the system. I finally just installed XP pro and
> now all is ok.
>
> Eric
>

weird, my vista boot up is blazing fast. it doesnt even think anymore
when it first logs in. also if you hear it thinking (reading/writing to
the disk) that doesnt mean it isnt done loading. vista constantly reads
and writes until it learns your patterns. right now my vista doesnt read
or write anymore but it used to do it all day long.

after it learns your patterns everything will be even faster than ever.
my vista shuts down in miliseconds, boots up in a few seconds, all apps
open and close in miliseconds, etc. best OS ive ever used.


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Slap,

So were talking about a minute or so for your box to boot. I'm assuming
that after that period of time that you have no more disk grinding that's
eating up CPU cycles like what's happening in my case. If your running Vista
and achieving a full boot in just over a minute then count yourself among the
lucky.

Until I can switch over to XP, I'm gonna have to get used to fixing a meal
or something while my hard drive grinds for 8 minutes. How depressing :-(

-S
--
It is wiser to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


"Slap" wrote:

>
>
> "Slap" <> wrote in message
> news:y2C2j.50159$PE.20903@pd7urf1no...
> >
> >
> > "Scientific" <> wrote in message
> > news:92E39BBC-346E-4C99-88D5-...
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> On each initial boot it takes Vista about 7 to 8 minutes to finish
> >> reading/writing to the hard disk. In the meantime while Vista's busy,
> >> it's
> >> difficult to run any programs which take forever to load because Vista's
> >> doing something. It's very annoying sitting there waiting for my new PC
> >> to
> >> stop working so I can start working. I bought the Vista machine because
> >> I
> >> thought I would be able to work more efficiently, but it turns out that
> >> my
> >> old XP box puts Vista to shame when it comes to load time.
> >>
> >
> > Something is not right. I timed mine...
> >
> > 40 seconds -from powerup to logon screen
> > 60 seconds - MS Office (Outlook-mail) is starting, Avast Anti Virus also.
> > 90 seconds - I click on Windows Live Mail (use it for newsgroups) to
> > answer this post.
> >
>
> I should state the above times were from a 're-start' not a complete power
> up. I did loose a couple of seconds at my boot screen (dual boot) tho.
>
> --
>
>
>

Scientific;525700 Wrote:
> Slap,
>
> So were talking about a minute or so for your box to boot. I'm assuming
> that after that period of time that you have no more disk grinding
> that's
> eating up CPU cycles like what's happening in my case. If your running
> Vista
> and achieving a full boot in just over a minute then count yourself
> among the
> lucky.
>
> Until I can switch over to XP, I'm gonna have to get used to fixing a
> meal
> or something while my hard drive grinds for 8 minutes. How depressing
> :-(
>
> -S
> --
> It is wiser to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all
> doubt.
>
>
> "Slap" wrote:is everyone on this forum blind or just dead set on complaining? just
because your harddrive is grinding doesnt mean you need to wait for it
to stop. vista is doing its thing learning and precaching and your
computer will run like normal no matter how much grinding you hear.
grinding will grow smaller over time and eventually stop altogether.
where xp grinded a little at the start, vista doesnt grind at all in the
start for me. why? it already knows what to have preloaded.

i wrote this right above you yet you still felt the need to complain.


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