VMware ESXi

Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server that
I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a static IP to
the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is loaded and leave
the vmware DHCP?

As always thanks in advance for the help!!

Tim

Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not plan on
loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard 32-bit for some
legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard Server. I found that
even though the ESXi server is on the same network as my SBS 2008 Server
that handles DHCP it ppears to be unable to obtain a DHCP lease so I just
went ahead and used a static IP.


"Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server
> that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a
> static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is
> loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>
> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>
> Tim
>

I was curious as to how they can offer this more robust virtual application
for free and after loading the VMSpere client and opening it for the first
time I got the 60-day trial message and if I let it expire I will no longer
be able to manage and maintain the ESXi host. So pretty much you either but
the client or you go back to VM Server. Your thoughts?

"AllenM" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not plan
> on loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard 32-bit for some
> legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard Server. I found that
> even though the ESXi server is on the same network as my SBS 2008 Server
> that handles DHCP it ppears to be unable to obtain a DHCP lease so I just
> went ahead and used a static IP.
>
>
> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server
>> that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a
>> static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is
>> loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>
>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
>

Funny I thought the same thing but after some digging and reading throught
the user docs I found out that you have to activate the copy. Now finding
out how to activate was another story but I did ultimately find it and here
is what I did and now I have a fully functional, no expiration version...


a.. Once client is installed then go to "Inventory", then "configuration",
"licensed Features", and then click edit on the right side of the screen.
Here you can choose to activate your license file with the file provided to
you when you registered. If you do not provide a license file then correct,
your copy will expire in 60 days!

I am running 2003 now and I just built this super server so now I want 2008
so I will keep searching for answers.

Good luck!




"AllenM" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>I was curious as to how they can offer this more robust virtual application
>for free and after loading the VMSpere client and opening it for the first
>time I got the 60-day trial message and if I let it expire I will no longer
>be able to manage and maintain the ESXi host. So pretty much you either but
>the client or you go back to VM Server. Your thoughts?
>
> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not plan
>> on loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard 32-bit for
>> some legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard Server. I found
>> that even though the ESXi server is on the same network as my SBS 2008
>> Server that handles DHCP it ppears to be unable to obtain a DHCP lease so
>> I just went ahead and used a static IP.
>>
>>
>> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server
>>> that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a
>>> static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is
>>> loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>>
>>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Tim that is fantastic. I did that and now no longer get the 60-day trial
message and can also see it no longer shows as an evaluation copy. thanks a
lot.

"Tim H" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Funny I thought the same thing but after some digging and reading throught
> the user docs I found out that you have to activate the copy. Now finding
> out how to activate was another story but I did ultimately find it and
> here is what I did and now I have a fully functional, no expiration
> version...
>
>
> a.. Once client is installed then go to "Inventory", then
> "configuration", "licensed Features", and then click edit on the right
> side of the screen. Here you can choose to activate your license file with
> the file provided to you when you registered. If you do not provide a
> license file then correct, your copy will expire in 60 days!
>
> I am running 2003 now and I just built this super server so now I want
> 2008 so I will keep searching for answers.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
>
> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>>I was curious as to how they can offer this more robust virtual
>>application for free and after loading the VMSpere client and opening it
>>for the first time I got the 60-day trial message and if I let it expire I
>>will no longer be able to manage and maintain the ESXi host. So pretty
>>much you either but the client or you go back to VM Server. Your thoughts?
>>
>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not plan
>>> on loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard 32-bit for
>>> some legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard Server. I
>>> found that even though the ESXi server is on the same network as my SBS
>>> 2008 Server that handles DHCP it ppears to be unable to obtain a DHCP
>>> lease so I just went ahead and used a static IP.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server
>>>> that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a
>>>> static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is
>>>> loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>>>
>>>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Great now install 2008 and not 2003 :-)

I am proceeding with the 2008 installation using the DHCP and I will just
have to see what happens. It is likely that I will end up doing this a few
times anyway just for good practice.



"AllenM" <> wrote in message
news:u2%...
> Tim that is fantastic. I did that and now no longer get the 60-day trial
> message and can also see it no longer shows as an evaluation copy. thanks
> a lot.
>
> "Tim H" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Funny I thought the same thing but after some digging and reading
>> throught the user docs I found out that you have to activate the copy.
>> Now finding out how to activate was another story but I did ultimately
>> find it and here is what I did and now I have a fully functional, no
>> expiration version...
>>
>>
>> a.. Once client is installed then go to "Inventory", then
>> "configuration", "licensed Features", and then click edit on the right
>> side of the screen. Here you can choose to activate your license file
>> with the file provided to you when you registered. If you do not provide
>> a license file then correct, your copy will expire in 60 days!
>>
>> I am running 2003 now and I just built this super server so now I want
>> 2008 so I will keep searching for answers.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>>I was curious as to how they can offer this more robust virtual
>>>application for free and after loading the VMSpere client and opening it
>>>for the first time I got the 60-day trial message and if I let it expire
>>>I will no longer be able to manage and maintain the ESXi host. So pretty
>>>much you either but the client or you go back to VM Server. Your
>>>thoughts?
>>>
>>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not
>>>> plan on loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard 32-bit
>>>> for some legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard Server. I
>>>> found that even though the ESXi server is on the same network as my SBS
>>>> 2008 Server that handles DHCP it ppears to be unable to obtain a DHCP
>>>> lease so I just went ahead and used a static IP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new
>>>>> server that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should
>>>>> assign a static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the
>>>>> server is loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>>>>
>>>>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

as SBS's DHCP server will not be available until ESX is up and running and
the VM is started it is best that the host have a static, manual, IP.

"Tim H" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Great now install 2008 and not 2003 :-)
>
> I am proceeding with the 2008 installation using the DHCP and I will just
> have to see what happens. It is likely that I will end up doing this a
> few times anyway just for good practice.
>
>
>
> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
> news:u2%...
>> Tim that is fantastic. I did that and now no longer get the 60-day trial
>> message and can also see it no longer shows as an evaluation copy. thanks
>> a lot.
>>
>> "Tim H" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Funny I thought the same thing but after some digging and reading
>>> throught the user docs I found out that you have to activate the copy.
>>> Now finding out how to activate was another story but I did ultimately
>>> find it and here is what I did and now I have a fully functional, no
>>> expiration version...
>>>
>>>
>>> a.. Once client is installed then go to "Inventory", then
>>> "configuration", "licensed Features", and then click edit on the right
>>> side of the screen. Here you can choose to activate your license file
>>> with the file provided to you when you registered. If you do not
>>> provide a license file then correct, your copy will expire in 60 days!
>>>
>>> I am running 2003 now and I just built this super server so now I want
>>> 2008 so I will keep searching for answers.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>>I was curious as to how they can offer this more robust virtual
>>>>application for free and after loading the VMSpere client and opening it
>>>>for the first time I got the 60-day trial message and if I let it expire
>>>>I will no longer be able to manage and maintain the ESXi host. So pretty
>>>>much you either but the client or you go back to VM Server. Your
>>>>thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not
>>>>> plan on loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard 32-bit
>>>>> for some legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard Server.
>>>>> I found that even though the ESXi server is on the same network as my
>>>>> SBS 2008 Server that handles DHCP it ppears to be unable to obtain a
>>>>> DHCP lease so I just went ahead and used a static IP.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new
>>>>>> server that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should
>>>>>> assign a static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the
>>>>>> server is loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Tim: Since SBS likes to be the DHCP server, you have a chicken and egg
scenario if you have VMWare running with a DHCP assigned address.
SBS...and by proxy your DHCP server, is running on a virtual machine and the
host environment needs a DHCP address from the DHCP server that is down.

Stick with static.

-Cliff


"Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server
> that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a
> static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is
> loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>
> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>
> Tim
>

Thanks SuperG!

As I am finding out, this may not work for my production server after all.
My new server, (obtained at an Intel TST event) is huge. In fact 2 Qaud
Core CPU's, 6GB RAM and 3 SAS drives. Problem with that is this free
version of ESXi only allows for 6 Cores! Basically meaning that I will not
be able to take full advantage of the speed if I understand all this
correctly. Right now I am testing SBS 2008 installation utilizing 4 cpu's
just to see what happens.

I'll keep plugging away and test, test, test but it looks like I should
probably just install 08 without virtualization and save all this for a non
production enviornment server.

Your thoughts??



"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%23Sfs2%...
> as SBS's DHCP server will not be available until ESX is up and running and
> the VM is started it is best that the host have a static, manual, IP.
>
> "Tim H" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Great now install 2008 and not 2003 :-)
>>
>> I am proceeding with the 2008 installation using the DHCP and I will just
>> have to see what happens. It is likely that I will end up doing this a
>> few times anyway just for good practice.
>>
>>
>>
>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>> news:u2%...
>>> Tim that is fantastic. I did that and now no longer get the 60-day trial
>>> message and can also see it no longer shows as an evaluation copy.
>>> thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> "Tim H" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Funny I thought the same thing but after some digging and reading
>>>> throught the user docs I found out that you have to activate the copy.
>>>> Now finding out how to activate was another story but I did ultimately
>>>> find it and here is what I did and now I have a fully functional, no
>>>> expiration version...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a.. Once client is installed then go to "Inventory", then
>>>> "configuration", "licensed Features", and then click edit on the right
>>>> side of the screen. Here you can choose to activate your license file
>>>> with the file provided to you when you registered. If you do not
>>>> provide a license file then correct, your copy will expire in 60 days!
>>>>
>>>> I am running 2003 now and I just built this super server so now I want
>>>> 2008 so I will keep searching for answers.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>>I was curious as to how they can offer this more robust virtual
>>>>>application for free and after loading the VMSpere client and opening
>>>>>it for the first time I got the 60-day trial message and if I let it
>>>>>expire I will no longer be able to manage and maintain the ESXi host.
>>>>>So pretty much you either but the client or you go back to VM Server.
>>>>>Your thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> "AllenM" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> Funny thing you should ask. I just finished loading ESXi but do not
>>>>>> plan on loading SBS 2008 on it. I will be loading W2K3 Standard
>>>>>> 32-bit for some legacy applications as well as Windows 2008 Standard
>>>>>> Server. I found that even though the ESXi server is on the same
>>>>>> network as my SBS 2008 Server that handles DHCP it ppears to be
>>>>>> unable to obtain a DHCP lease so I just went ahead and used a static
>>>>>> IP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new
>>>>>>> server that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should
>>>>>>> assign a static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once
>>>>>>> the server is loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks Cliff! I appreciate it. I think on my next attempt I will connect
this to my extra Static from my ISP.

"Cliff Galiher" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Tim: Since SBS likes to be the DHCP server, you have a chicken and egg
> scenario if you have VMWare running with a DHCP assigned address.
> SBS...and by proxy your DHCP server, is running on a virtual machine and
> the host environment needs a DHCP address from the DHCP server that is
> down.
>
> Stick with static.
>
> -Cliff
>
>
> "Tim Hays" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Anyone using ESXi with SBS 2008? I have installed ESXi on a new server
>> that I want to load SBS 08 on but I am not sure if I should assign a
>> static IP to the VMware interface or do you do that once the server is
>> loaded and leave the vmware DHCP?
>>
>> As always thanks in advance for the help!!
>>
>> Tim
>>