VPN from home router?

Victek wrote:
>>> I'm not needing to connect to my home PC. When I use my laptop to
>>> connect to the Internet at an Open Wi-Fi hotspot I'd like to be able
>>> to use a VPN. If I can connect securely to my router/LAN then I would
>>> have access to the NET via my home ISP. I guess the router would be
>>> acting as a server. Do they make such a thing?
>>
>> Eh?
>> If you are ALREADY connected to the internet why on EARTH would you
>> then want to VPN to your Router to err connect to the Internet?
>> If it's because you can't send emails from outside your ISP just
>> change the smtp server settings....
> .
> Because connecting via Open Wi-Fi is insecure.

Insecure for what? If you have proper security on your laptop and don't
run as admin and have a good password and don't have any shared folders
I can't see a problem...

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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> Victek wrote:
>>>> I'm not needing to connect to my home PC. When I use my laptop
>>>> to connect to the Internet at an Open Wi-Fi hotspot I'd like to
>>>> be able to use a VPN. If I can connect securely to my router/LAN
>>>> then I would have access to the NET via my home ISP. I guess the
>>>> router would be acting as a server. Do they make such a thing?
>>>
>>> Eh?
>>> If you are ALREADY connected to the internet why on EARTH would
>>> you then want to VPN to your Router to err connect to the
>>> Internet?
>>> If it's because you can't send emails from outside your ISP just
>>> change the smtp server settings....
>> .
>> Because connecting via Open Wi-Fi is insecure.
>
> Insecure for what? If you have proper security on your laptop and
> don't run as admin and have a good password and don't have any
> shared folders I can't see a problem...

So you don't consider it a problem that everything you send and
receive through an open WiFi connection can be intercepted by anyone
that wants to do so? Proper security on the laptop, admin vs. limited
user logins, and shared folders don't even enter into the mix at that
point. You send it or receive it, anyone can intecept and read it.
Encryption of the traffic via a VPN or similar is the only method
available to the user of such a connection.

On a somewhat related note, Gordon, why do you spend so much effort
trying to convince people in these newsgroups that they don't want or
need to do what they are asking for help to accomplish? Certainly
there are times to give a word of advice against doing something, but
do that and then move on. You don't add anything constructive to the
discussion with the argumentative approach you take in so many posts
here.
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>>>> I'm not needing to connect to my home PC. When I use my laptop to
>>>> connect to the Internet at an Open Wi-Fi hotspot I'd like to be able to
>>>> use a VPN. If I can connect securely to my router/LAN then I would have
>>>> access to the NET via my home ISP. I guess the router would be acting
>>>> as a server. Do they make such a thing?
>>>
>>> Eh?
>>> If you are ALREADY connected to the internet why on EARTH would you then
>>> want to VPN to your Router to err connect to the Internet?
>>> If it's because you can't send emails from outside your ISP just change
>>> the smtp server settings....
>> .
>> Because connecting via Open Wi-Fi is insecure.
>
> Insecure for what? If you have proper security on your laptop and don't
> run as admin and have a good password and don't have any shared folders I
> can't see a problem...
..
What do you mean by proper security on a laptop? I understand the value of
strong passwords and Limited User Accounts, but what does that have to do
with transmitting data over open Wi-Fi?

"Frankster" <> wrote in message
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>>> If you are ALREADY connected to the internet why on EARTH would
>>> you then want to VPN to your Router to err connect to the
>>> Internet?
>
>> Because connecting via Open Wi-Fi is insecure. Using a VPN over
>> the wireless link to a wired network is safer.
>
> No.

Yes.

Note the use of the term "safer", that is, more safe. It is "more
safe" to use a VPN to communicate across an untrusted network segment
such as an open WiFi connection than it is to communicate across that
network without one.

>
> The point is that in order to enjoy the benefits of encrypted
> communications, you have to VPN into your final destination. Not
> simply some mid-point like your router. The final destination must
> have a VPN server to accept your VPN client connection. Again, not
> just some mid-point like your router. You're on the wrong tangent
> here.
>


That's simply not true. The benefit here is that the traffic across
the WiFi section of the network is now encrypted, making it more
difficult to listen in on communications on that part of the
connection. Had you said "... to enjoy the *full* benefits of
encrypted communications..." I would agree, but in this case there is
some benefit to the OP's approach.

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Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

"Frankster" <> wrote in message
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>> Had you said "... to enjoy the *full* benefits of encrypted
>> communications..." I would agree, but in this case there is some
>> benefit to the OP's approach.
>
> 1) I don't care if you agree.
>
Right, that's sorted then.

> 2) Obtaining "some" benefit is an utter waste of time.
>

Receiving only incremental security benefit from an infrastructure
change is an utter waste of time. Right, that's sorted as well.

Ta.

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