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MSN Web Messenger still works but both links seem hush-hush. Is MS not
interested in making WLM web accessible? I see brand confusion here...


- Stephen

Hi,

One day it'll show up elsewhere I would expect...

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"Stephen" <> wrote in message
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> Was this left for dead?
>
> http://messidog.live.com/
>
>
> An error has occurred.
> There's a problem with the Windows Live Web Messenger service right now. Please try signing
> in again later. If you have a different account, you may want to try signing in with that
> one.
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>
> ________
>
>
> MSN Web Messenger still works but both links seem hush-hush. Is MS not interested in making
> WLM web accessible? I see brand confusion here...
>
>
> - Stephen

Hi,

Why thank you

It's alright I suppose, the nacelles certainly don't do much for me - but I can accept it.
I'm trying to remain open minded about the film, but that's slowly starting to fade more as
they release more materials about the film.

The Kelvin is more a question mark for me. Nevermind the possible problems with known trek
physics and how these engines are supposed to work, but it just looks like some mutilated
federation design.

Well, five months and we find out!

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"vista is bad for ya" <> wrote in message
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> Oh I love your star trek Christmas tree!
>
> What is your opinion about the new star trek 11 enterprise design?
>
>
>
>
> My opinion about it is>
> Reminds me of vista.... (and that's not a compliment if you know what I mean! lol)
> Things changed around just to be different with no good reason...the result is a fugly
> craft that doesn't deserve the name Enterprise
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi,
>>
>> One day it'll show up elsewhere I would expect...
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> --
>>
>>
>> "Stephen" <> wrote in message
>> news:085CA116-22D5-426A-AB99-...
>>> Was this left for dead?
>>>
>>> http://messidog.live.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> An error has occurred.
>>> There's a problem with the Windows Live Web Messenger service right now. Please try
>>> signing in again later. If you have a different account, you may want to try signing in
>>> with that one.
>>> Help - Sign in with a different account
>>>
>>>
>>> ________
>>>
>>>
>>> MSN Web Messenger still works but both links seem hush-hush. Is MS not interested in
>>> making WLM web accessible? I see brand confusion here...
>>>
>>>
>>> - Stephen
>>
>>

"vista is bad for ya" <> wrote in message:
> there are 2 coils in the single nacelle. the federation had some early ships and
> experimental craft with 1.
Do you have a reference for that out of curiosity?

> The fact that JJ abrams is not a trek fan, and more of a star wars fan is scary... I would
> never put a director that is not a die hard trekkie (not a trekker) in charge of a Star
> Trek film! Not even george lucas!
Well we all know how successful that was for Nemesis. I try my best to forget that film even
exists.

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Hi,

Thanks for that, I knew I had seen stuff about this before somewhere too. I suppose it's not
so mutilated then, but it still is odd.

I wish I didn't have to wait 5 months!

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"vista is bad for ya" <> wrote in message
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> I was mad after seeing the Kelvin because I had read this:
> http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/design.htm
>
> Rule #1 Warp nacelles *must* be in pairs.
> "The 'All Good Things' Enterprise is explained not to violate these because it has two warp
> field coils in each nacelle, thus creating three pairs. The Franz Joseph Designs
> single-nacelle ships are not official canon..."
>
>
> But then I found lots of information about this.. some of this is below:
>
> see here image of tos era saladin class
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b/Wik_sal1.jpg
>
> http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/u...ers/hermes.htm
>
> http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/freedom.htm
>
> also read this from here http://www.trekplace.com/article15.html
>
> Warp nacelles must be in pairs. The Hermes-class ship has a single warp nacelle, which
> would seem to violate this rule. On the other hand, perhaps the interior of the nacelle has
> the functional equivalent of a pair of nacelles -- twin sets of warp coils arranged
> side-by-side. The ship's deflector shield system might also help with related tasks such as
> reducing the ship's inertial mass. In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's "Emissary," space
> station Deep Space 9's inertial mass was reduced using the station's deflector shield
> system. The Hermes sensor/deflector dish is mounted beneath the primary hull on a strut.
> Perhaps this configuration allows the navigational deflector to further enhance the ship's
> warp field generation and control capabilities.
>
> also see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...t_ship_classes
>
>
> Saladin class
> USS Saladin (NCC-500)
>
> The Saladin class is a type of starship that originated in Franz Joseph's Star Fleet
> Technical Manual. Diagrams from this Technical Manual were used in bridge displays in Star
> Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The Technical Manual designates it is a "destroyer", and claims
> the first ship of this class is the USS Saladin, NCC-500. The ship has only one nacelle.
>
> The video game Star Trek: Legacy features a starship of the same design as the Saladin but
> instead refers to it as Apollo class. This ship can be used during the first part of the
> Original Series section of the game. Later, the ship gets a restyle similar to the
> Enterprise-A's refit, this time with two similar warp nacelles. This version is dubbed the
> "Apollo-class refit."
>
>
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> "vista is bad for ya" <> wrote in message:
>>> there are 2 coils in the single nacelle. the federation had some early ships and
>>> experimental craft with 1.
>> Do you have a reference for that out of curiosity?
>>
>>> The fact that JJ abrams is not a trek fan, and more of a star wars fan is scary... I
>>> would never put a director that is not a die hard trekkie (not a trekker) in charge of a
>>> Star Trek film! Not even george lucas!
>> Well we all know how successful that was for Nemesis. I try my best to forget that film
>> even exists.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> --
>>
>>
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