What's up with the messenger team's obsession with the custom fram

Top rules for Windows Vista UX

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...27.aspx#frames

# Use the standard window frame. Glass, as seen in Windows Vista translucent
window frames, is an important part of the new aesthetic, aiming to be both
attractive and lightweight. By running on Windows Vista, this aspect of Aero
design is integrated with every application.
# Don't create your own nonstandard window frame by drawing in the
non-client window region.

IMO, the custom frame looks still kind of look ugly in Vista and it looks
alien.

Do you guys have any plan to fix this?
Thanks
Woongbin

Greetings Woongbin,

I assume you're talking about 8.5. In the 2009 beta (which you can find at
http://download.live.com), they are actually doing what you've mentioned here - they use the
standard windows frame where glass is available, otherwise they fall back to the custom
frame. Live Mail has done this for awhile too, and continues to do so in the 2009 version.

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"woongbin" <> wrote in message
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> Top rules for Windows Vista UX
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...27.aspx#frames
>
> # Use the standard window frame. Glass, as seen in Windows Vista translucent
> window frames, is an important part of the new aesthetic, aiming to be both
> attractive and lightweight. By running on Windows Vista, this aspect of Aero
> design is integrated with every application.
> # Don't create your own nonstandard window frame by drawing in the
> non-client window region.
>
> IMO, the custom frame looks still kind of look ugly in Vista and it looks
> alien.
>
> Do you guys have any plan to fix this?
> Thanks
> Woongbin