Why can't I install Vista home preimum on XP Pro SP2 system with NO REPORTED ISSUES as a upgrade?

"MICHAEL" wrote:

> Adam, you can't do an in place upgrade like you want to do.
> But, you can do a "custom install", which is basically a clean install.
> More than likely, whether or not you could "upgrade", you'd
> be better off with a custom install.
>
> Use Windows Easy Transfer and save you settings and stuff.
> Then put them back into your new Vista install.
>
> I understand your point. It seems to me, that there is
> no technical reason why it couldn't be have been done-
> except, Microsoft doesn't allow it. They made the install work like that.
> All installs of Vista are technically "clean" installs- there is
> no old code left over from a previous version. After, the
> image is laid down (block copying instead of file copying),
> all the users' settings and programs are put back. What the
> install deems unsuitable, it puts in the windows.old folder.
> The install program could have been easily setup to determine
> XP Pro's features would not be part of your Home install.
>

Since when is buying a newer version of an operating system a "downgrade"???
I'm having the same problem. Here is what the front of the box says:

UPGRADE
For users running Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional, Windows XP or Windows
Vista only. Backup and clean install may be required. See back of box for
details. *


The back of the home premium upgrade
box says this written in tiny tiny letters:
(I had to read this quote with a magnifying glass, showing that Microsoft
did this
very much on purpose IMHO. This is a deceptive practice that shows just how
savvy the marketing folks and lawyers are at Microsoft)

"You must perform a clean install of Windows Vista and then reinstall your
existing files, settings and programs, UNLESS you are upgrading from Windows
XP SP2 Home or Media Center edition, or Windows Vista Home Basic. "

So the front of the box states you can upgrade from Windows 2000
Professional using this upgrade, but the small print says that you cannot do
this. The only path
for upgrades (and this is sold as an 'upgrade') is listed above as "unless
you are upgrading from Windows XP SP2 Home or Media Center, or Windows Vista
Home Basic"...... nowhere does it say that you can upgrade from Windows 2000
Professional on the back of the package in the small print.

Microsoft has been purposefully misleading in this case. Why do you sell an
'upgrade' version that will fail?????

Windows 2000 Professional is not able to be upgraded with Vista Home
premium. I know because I tried. But the front of the box says you can.
That is an out and out lie. Period. No arguments. If you try and do a
clean install and then try to activate this 'upgrade' it tells you no way,
you cannot use the key that comes with Home Premium UPGRADE to do a clean
install. It will not let you. So why lie on the front of the package that
you can use this version to upgrade Windows 2000 Professional.


> Folks here are blowing smoke up users' asses. They are right,
> an upgrade in place won't work. But, it's because that's the way
> it was made to be. That's the way Microsoft wanted it.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> "Adam Albright" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:52:34 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >>You are attempting a downgrade by going from Windows XP Pro to Windows Vista
> >>Home Premium.

I'd like to see this logic applied at a car lot. If you came in driving a
2005 Cadillac and the salesman/dealer sold you a newer 2007 Cadillac he be
very happy to Upgrade you to the new car. If you wanted to trade for a 2007
Honda Accord can you imagine the dealer saying "NO, Can't do it. You can
only upgrade to a new Caddie fella/lady (gotta be PC). I can't sell you a
new Honda Accord because that WOULD BE A DOWNGRADE." What a crock.


> >
> > Laughable comment. I paid MORE MONEY for XP Pro then people paid for
> > XP Home, yet they can do a "upgrade". As yet, nobody has gave a
> > logical reason why Microsoft is f...ing their customers that they
> > already made MORE money from. You sure haven't.
> >
> > Get this, I saw a least one MVP claim elsewhere you can install Vista
> > Home Premium over XP Pro.
> >
> > Give me a TECHNICAL reason why Microsoft is shafting its customers
> > over this. Lots of luck.
> >

There is no technical reason you cannot disable "Professional features" if
you 'downgrade' your OS from XP Professional to Home Premium. I'm a computer
programmer and it's their code. They can turn on or turn off any feature
they want. They wrote the OS in the first place. It's not like you are
buying aftermarket parts on a car for Christ's sake.


> >>The operative word here is "Home".
> >>You have some choices which you seem to reject two:
> >>1. Perform a Clean Install using Windows Easy Transfer to save your data and
> >>settings.
> >
> > How? From the typical and utterly useless Microsoft documentation if
> > you can ever call the garbage that Microshaft scatters in dozens of
> > places all over their web site it appears that "Easy Transfer" is part
> > of Vista so in other words you can't unless and until its on your
> > system. If not, how then?
> >
> > For people that have extremely complex systems like I do,(over 2 TB of
> > applications and files), a clean install is a nightmere and a poor
> > choice.
> >
> >>2. Returning Windows Vista Home Premium and purchasing Windows Vista
> >>Business or Ultimate. Enterprise is probably not an option available to
> >>you.
> >
> > Your solution is pay more money for features I don't want and never
> > will use. Explain how that makes any sense.
> >
> >>3. Returning Vista and stay with Windows XP Pro.
> >
> > Anybody have any USEFUL suggestions or is this newsgroup just infested
> > with Microshaft butt kissers?
> >


I'm totally behind you on this and as you can see I've not kissed anyone's
butt at Microsoft. Thanks for listening. I'm now going to have to return
this Home Preium UPGRADE and spend more money for Vista Business or Ultimate.

I have vista home preimum

"Adam Albright" wrote:

> Get as far as install accepting product key, then it goes out on the
> web for upgrade then comes back and gives no reason for stopping and
> suggests I upgrade to business, ultimate or enterprise versions or
> that I do a clean install. Neither a a good option for me. A clean
> install with the complex system I have would be a multi day nightmare.
> Thanks but no thanks, just went through that a month ago when I build
> a brand new "Vista Ready" system. EVERYTHING, the processor, the
> motherboard, the graphics card are all Vista approved.
>
> WHY is Vista so pigheaded? I ran the useless Vista advisor and it
> reports no problems. I did attempt to install from XP Pro with the
> Vista DVD in. I did not try to install from the DVD.
>
> Why does Microshaft keep mistreating its customers like this? Every
> time they dick around for YEARS "developing" a new "improved" Windows
> and the same old BS. I'm damn sick of it!
>
>

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx
This site says " You can upgrade from your current edition of Microsoft
Windows XP or Windows 2000 to a corresponding or better edition of Windows
Vista by purchasing and installing an upgrade copy of Windows Vista."
I don't think Home Premium fits the criteria of being "corresponding or
better" than XP Pro. I believe the upgrade path would require Vista
Ultimate.


"how can i check it" <> wrote in
message news:5AE9AD3C-BACA-4481-84E7-...
>I have vista home preimum
>
> "Adam Albright" wrote:
>
>> Get as far as install accepting product key, then it goes out on the
>> web for upgrade then comes back and gives no reason for stopping and
>> suggests I upgrade to business, ultimate or enterprise versions or
>> that I do a clean install. Neither a a good option for me. A clean
>> install with the complex system I have would be a multi day nightmare.
>> Thanks but no thanks, just went through that a month ago when I build
>> a brand new "Vista Ready" system. EVERYTHING, the processor, the
>> motherboard, the graphics card are all Vista approved.
>>
>> WHY is Vista so pigheaded? I ran the useless Vista advisor and it
>> reports no problems. I did attempt to install from XP Pro with the
>> Vista DVD in. I did not try to install from the DVD.
>>
>> Why does Microshaft keep mistreating its customers like this? Every
>> time they dick around for YEARS "developing" a new "improved" Windows
>> and the same old BS. I'm damn sick of it!
>>
>>

Correct. XP Pro upgrades to Business or Ultimate. Home Premium is for users
of (guess what?) XP Home. To install HP on an XP Pro machine, a custom
install would be used resulting in a clean installation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"giantlady" <> wrote in message
news:...
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx
> This site says " You can upgrade from your current edition of Microsoft
> Windows XP or Windows 2000 to a corresponding or better edition of Windows
> Vista by purchasing and installing an upgrade copy of Windows Vista."
> I don't think Home Premium fits the criteria of being "corresponding or
> better" than XP Pro. I believe the upgrade path would require Vista
> Ultimate.
>
>
> "how can i check it" <> wrote in
> message news:5AE9AD3C-BACA-4481-84E7-...
>>I have vista home preimum
>>
>> "Adam Albright" wrote:
>>
>>> Get as far as install accepting product key, then it goes out on the
>>> web for upgrade then comes back and gives no reason for stopping and
>>> suggests I upgrade to business, ultimate or enterprise versions or
>>> that I do a clean install. Neither a a good option for me. A clean
>>> install with the complex system I have would be a multi day nightmare.
>>> Thanks but no thanks, just went through that a month ago when I build
>>> a brand new "Vista Ready" system. EVERYTHING, the processor, the
>>> motherboard, the graphics card are all Vista approved.
>>>
>>> WHY is Vista so pigheaded? I ran the useless Vista advisor and it
>>> reports no problems. I did attempt to install from XP Pro with the
>>> Vista DVD in. I did not try to install from the DVD.
>>>
>>> Why does Microshaft keep mistreating its customers like this? Every
>>> time they dick around for YEARS "developing" a new "improved" Windows
>>> and the same old BS. I'm damn sick of it!
>>>
>>>
>