Why does Vista delete all Restore Points

A customer has been hit with the "Startup Repair" loop issue. The Startup
Repair cannot repair the problem and shuts dow the computer, no restore
points are available and "Last known good configuration" are useless. The
computer needed to be recovered from the recovery partition. OK, fine...

After recovery and purposely setting several restore points manually I
thought I was finished with all updates and such so I set my final restore
point. I uninstalled an application that was not needed any more and on the
next reboot I got a BSOD. Startup Repair was the option so it ran thru its
paces and gave the message that it could not repair the issue and so I
attempted to do a system restore to the last restore point I created before
this happened. Vista reported again that I had no restore points (I know I
manually create 5 of them). So this time "Last Known Configuration" did
work. I went to chech the restore points and sure enough ther were none.

Why did Vista delete my restore points???

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Does Startup Repair, reinstall the operating system?

Startup Repair doesn't have that capability.

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"Badger" <> wrote in message
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> Does Startup Repair, reinstall the operating system?

Hi,

Was one of the updates a service pack? Usually they delete all but the last
point during the process.

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"Randem" <> wrote in message
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>A customer has been hit with the "Startup Repair" loop issue. The Startup
>Repair cannot repair the problem and shuts dow the computer, no restore
>points are available and "Last known good configuration" are useless. The
>computer needed to be recovered from the recovery partition. OK, fine...
>
> After recovery and purposely setting several restore points manually I
> thought I was finished with all updates and such so I set my final restore
> point. I uninstalled an application that was not needed any more and on
> the next reboot I got a BSOD. Startup Repair was the option so it ran thru
> its paces and gave the message that it could not repair the issue and so I
> attempted to do a system restore to the last restore point I created
> before this happened. Vista reported again that I had no restore points (I
> know I manually create 5 of them). So this time "Last Known Configuration"
> did work. I went to chech the restore points and sure enough ther were
> none.
>
> Why did Vista delete my restore points???
>
> --
> Randem Systems
> Your Installation Specialist
> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
> http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938
>
>
>
>

Also, have you run a drive diagnostic or addressed the blue screen issues?
It could be the result of faulty/damaged hardware making reinstallation
pointless.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Randem" <> wrote in message
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>A customer has been hit with the "Startup Repair" loop issue. The Startup
>Repair cannot repair the problem and shuts dow the computer, no restore
>points are available and "Last known good configuration" are useless. The
>computer needed to be recovered from the recovery partition. OK, fine...
>
> After recovery and purposely setting several restore points manually I
> thought I was finished with all updates and such so I set my final restore
> point. I uninstalled an application that was not needed any more and on
> the next reboot I got a BSOD. Startup Repair was the option so it ran thru
> its paces and gave the message that it could not repair the issue and so I
> attempted to do a system restore to the last restore point I created
> before this happened. Vista reported again that I had no restore points (I
> know I manually create 5 of them). So this time "Last Known Configuration"
> did work. I went to chech the restore points and sure enough ther were
> none.
>
> Why did Vista delete my restore points???
>
> --
> Randem Systems
> Your Installation Specialist
> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
> http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938
>
>
>
>

The blue screen was from the software that was uninstalled.

Now, that's funny. The service pack deletes all the restore points so that
you can't recover from the corruption of the service pack...LOL

That is a very good design that has people reinstalling after automatically
installing SP1 which fails leaving no restore points...

BTW: They all were deleted and SP1 was the last thing I installed...

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"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
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> Also, have you run a drive diagnostic or addressed the blue screen issues?
> It could be the result of faulty/damaged hardware making reinstallation
> pointless.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Randem" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>>A customer has been hit with the "Startup Repair" loop issue. The Startup
>>Repair cannot repair the problem and shuts dow the computer, no restore
>>points are available and "Last known good configuration" are useless. The
>>computer needed to be recovered from the recovery partition. OK, fine...
>>
>> After recovery and purposely setting several restore points manually I
>> thought I was finished with all updates and such so I set my final
>> restore point. I uninstalled an application that was not needed any more
>> and on the next reboot I got a BSOD. Startup Repair was the option so it
>> ran thru its paces and gave the message that it could not repair the
>> issue and so I attempted to do a system restore to the last restore point
>> I created before this happened. Vista reported again that I had no
>> restore points (I know I manually create 5 of them). So this time "Last
>> Known Configuration" did work. I went to chech the restore points and
>> sure enough ther were none.
>>
>> Why did Vista delete my restore points???
>>
>> --
>> Randem Systems
>> Your Installation Specialist
>> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>> http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

I have no answer but have had the same experience: system restore points are
often non-existent when you most need them.
It is clear that a wide range of common conditions will destroy system
restore points.
Microsoft deliberately destroys Vista System Restore points if you dual boot
Vista and XP for no good technical reason but simply to discourage use of XP
once Vista is installed.
The fragility of System Restore points, the difficulty for users to manually
store them wherever they choose, is an example of the Microsoft's hostile
attitude toward individual users.
The only reason Macs are less subject to these problems is that there are
only about three shrink wrapped programs from two vendors you can install
on a Mac anyway.
Sadly, even if you image your hard drive, the image will often not restore
properly when you need it most.

"Randem" <> wrote in message
news:ei%...
> The blue screen was from the software that was uninstalled.
>
> Now, that's funny. The service pack deletes all the restore points so that
> you can't recover from the corruption of the service pack...LOL
>
> That is a very good design that has people reinstalling after
> automatically installing SP1 which fails leaving no restore points...
>
> BTW: They all were deleted and SP1 was the last thing I installed...
>
> --
> Randem Systems
> Your Installation Specialist
> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
> http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938
>
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Also, have you run a drive diagnostic or addressed the blue screen
>> issues? It could be the result of faulty/damaged hardware making
>> reinstallation pointless.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "Randem" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>>A customer has been hit with the "Startup Repair" loop issue. The Startup
>>>Repair cannot repair the problem and shuts dow the computer, no restore
>>>points are available and "Last known good configuration" are useless. The
>>>computer needed to be recovered from the recovery partition. OK, fine...
>>>
>>> After recovery and purposely setting several restore points manually I
>>> thought I was finished with all updates and such so I set my final
>>> restore point. I uninstalled an application that was not needed any more
>>> and on the next reboot I got a BSOD. Startup Repair was the option so it
>>> ran thru its paces and gave the message that it could not repair the
>>> issue and so I attempted to do a system restore to the last restore
>>> point I created before this happened. Vista reported again that I had no
>>> restore points (I know I manually create 5 of them). So this time "Last
>>> Known Configuration" did work. I went to chech the restore points and
>>> sure enough ther were none.
>>>
>>> Why did Vista delete my restore points???
>>>
>>> --
>>> Randem Systems
>>> Your Installation Specialist
>>> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>>> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>>> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>>> http://www.randem.com/discus/message...tml?1236319938

I don't think the SP2 upgrade deletes Restore Points because it makes one of
its own prior to install. Unless its an aberration in the installation.

I had a fairly similar experience a month or 2 back when Vista (Home Prem)
wouldn't boot, wouldn't recognize any restore points when working through
the normal Restore Options, that like you, I knew were there. After sweaty
chills working for an hour or two trying anything and everything (I didn't
have Acronis then), I resigned myself to use the restore disc to return to
factory settings. Upon booting from that CD I saw the option to fix/restore
the system (I forget the exact terminology), and just as a last resort
thought I'd try it before launching into the return to factory condition.
Low and behold it showed me all the restore points! So I selected a last
good restore section and it worked just fine, and I got my system back, as
if nothing had ever happened!

I don't know why none of the restore points were visible under the boot menu
Restore System options before using the Restore CDs I made. Go figure!

John

"JohnJ" <> wrote:

>I don't think the SP2 upgrade deletes Restore Points because it makes one of
>its own prior to install. Unless its an aberration in the installation.

You "don't think" wrong. It deletes all old points and then creates
its own.

"botox" <> wrote:

>Microsoft deliberately destroys Vista System Restore points if you dual boot
>Vista and XP for no good technical reason but simply to discourage use of XP
>once Vista is installed.

I think "deliberately" is definitely arguable.

Besides, there is a known workaround for that.

Google a little, you'll find it.