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Phil
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      08-17-2007
Hi,
Is there any to prevent the "Needs your permission...." question? I have
been using PC for well over 30 years and I am the only one using my computer.
I don't want to be asked for permission all the time. Also I just learned
that I can't use my Access Developer and send the output to a folder in the
"Program Files" folder. Is there a way around that?
So far I'm not too happy with Vista.......
Thanks,
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John Inzer
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      08-17-2007
Phil wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there any to prevent the "Needs your permission...." question? I
> have been using PC for well over 30 years and I am the only one using
> my computer. I don't want to be asked for permission all the time.
> Also I just learned that I can't use my Access Developer and send the
> output to a folder in the "Program Files" folder. Is there a way
> around that?
> So far I'm not too happy with Vista.......
> Thanks,


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FWIW...turning off User Account Control reduces
the security of your system.

The option to disable User Account Control
can be found at: Control Panel / Classic View /
User Accounts.

Maybe the following links will offer some ideas:

Disable UAC
http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/supertweaks.htm#one

Download TweakUAC
http://www.tweak-uac.com/download/

Enable or Disable UAC From the Windows Vista Command Line
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...-command-line/

How To Disable User Account Control
http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm

Windows Vista Secret #4: Disabling UAC
http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2...bling-uac.aspx

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babaloo
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      08-17-2007
The UAC as well as the way Vista equilibrates between administrator and user
is just a confused hash of nothingness pretending to be security.
Fundamentally the UAC warning box is a legal and PR tool: if the user okays
something that comes up with a UAC warning box and the user should not have
done so Microsoft places the blame on the user.
In reality if Vista were any more secure than XP, and it is not, Vista would
identify threats and explain what they are to the user instead of presenting
both routine and possibly dangerous disc operations in an identical fashion.
How is the user supposed to be able to figure out what Microsoft programmers
cannot figure out, namely how to identify malware.
The UAC system is crafted from the same stinking rubbish as the EULA.


 
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Crazy Noddy
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      08-18-2007
"babaloo" <> wrote in message
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> The UAC as well as the way Vista equilibrates between administrator and
> user is just a confused hash of nothingness pretending to be security.
> Fundamentally the UAC warning box is a legal and PR tool: if the user
> okays something that comes up with a UAC warning box and the user should
> not have done so Microsoft places the blame on the user.
> In reality if Vista were any more secure than XP, and it is not, Vista
> would identify threats and explain what they are to the user instead of
> presenting both routine and possibly dangerous disc operations in an
> identical fashion. How is the user supposed to be able to figure out what
> Microsoft programmers cannot figure out, namely how to identify malware.
> The UAC system is crafted from the same stinking rubbish as the EULA.
>
>



That's a real good conspiracy theory you've got going there. When's the book
version come out? <blink>

 
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PaulB
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      08-18-2007
Don't use it. Stay with what ever you like better!
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"Phil" wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there any to prevent the "Needs your permission...." question? I have
> been using PC for well over 30 years and I am the only one using my computer.
> I don't want to be asked for permission all the time. Also I just learned
> that I can't use my Access Developer and send the output to a folder in the
> "Program Files" folder. Is there a way around that?
> So far I'm not too happy with Vista.......
> Thanks,
> --
> Phil

 
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NotMe
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      08-18-2007
You can turn off UAC (User Access Control) but it breaks other things.
My auto AV update wouldn't work with UAC off.
MS hired all the AOL programmers that got laid off because of AOL's 'great
success' with software, designed for beginners, that will protect you from
yourself. So it shouldn't come as a great surprise that Vista wants to hold
your hand and protect you from yourself...are you sure, really, REALLY sure?
Unless there is something you use that will ONLY run on Vista, I'd continue
to use XP as long as possible.
I think MS missed their foot and shot themselves in the head with this Vista
mess.

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"Phil" <> wrote in message
news:F116EED0-464A-4626-B28C-...
> Hi,
> Is there any to prevent the "Needs your permission...." question? I have
> been using PC for well over 30 years and I am the only one using my
> computer.
> I don't want to be asked for permission all the time. Also I just learned
> that I can't use my Access Developer and send the output to a folder in
> the
> "Program Files" folder. Is there a way around that?
> So far I'm not too happy with Vista.......
> Thanks,
> --
> Phil



 
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amenx
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      08-18-2007
I turned off UAC the moment I installed Vista. I would rather have a hacker
rummage thru my PC depositing malware and virus's throughout rather than put
up with the frustrations of UAC and permissions (which can still be
problematic).

amenx

"NotMe" wrote:

> You can turn off UAC (User Access Control) but it breaks other things.
> My auto AV update wouldn't work with UAC off.
> MS hired all the AOL programmers that got laid off because of AOL's 'great
> success' with software, designed for beginners, that will protect you from
> yourself. So it shouldn't come as a great surprise that Vista wants to hold
> your hand and protect you from yourself...are you sure, really, REALLY sure?
> Unless there is something you use that will ONLY run on Vista, I'd continue
> to use XP as long as possible.
> I think MS missed their foot and shot themselves in the head with this Vista
> mess.
>
> --
> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>
> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
> "Phil" <> wrote in message
> news:F116EED0-464A-4626-B28C-...
> > Hi,
> > Is there any to prevent the "Needs your permission...." question? I have
> > been using PC for well over 30 years and I am the only one using my
> > computer.
> > I don't want to be asked for permission all the time. Also I just learned
> > that I can't use my Access Developer and send the output to a folder in
> > the
> > "Program Files" folder. Is there a way around that?
> > So far I'm not too happy with Vista.......
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Phil

>
>
>

 
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Rick Rogers
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      08-18-2007
Hi Phil,

Properly coded applications do not require any permission, except perhaps
during installation. In Vista, programs run in a virtual environment (this
is the purpose of the AppData directory in the user folders), they do not
have permissions to write to or alter files in the Program Files directory.
Applications that require the ability to write there, or to a system
directory, will require elevated privileges thus creating the prompt (not
unlike prompting for root privileges in Linux). This came about due to the
large amount of malware infecting users running as admin by default and
allowing malware to install itself without the user's knowledge. Disabling
UAC will reduce the prompts (run msconfig, tools tab), but it will also
expose the system to the same malware problems afflicting earlier versions
of Windows.

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"Phil" <> wrote in message
news:F116EED0-464A-4626-B28C-...
> Hi,
> Is there any to prevent the "Needs your permission...." question? I have
> been using PC for well over 30 years and I am the only one using my
> computer.
> I don't want to be asked for permission all the time. Also I just learned
> that I can't use my Access Developer and send the output to a folder in
> the
> "Program Files" folder. Is there a way around that?
> So far I'm not too happy with Vista.......
> Thanks,
> --
> Phil


 
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Clenna Lumina
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      08-18-2007

"Crazy Noddy" <> wrote in message
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> "babaloo" <> wrote in message
> news:8Epxi.49888$. net...
>> The UAC as well as the way Vista equilibrates between administrator and
>> user is just a confused hash of nothingness pretending to be security.
>> Fundamentally the UAC warning box is a legal and PR tool: if the user
>> okays something that comes up with a UAC warning box and the user should
>> not have done so Microsoft places the blame on the user.
>> In reality if Vista were any more secure than XP, and it is not, Vista
>> would identify threats and explain what they are to the user instead of
>> presenting both routine and possibly dangerous disc operations in an
>> identical fashion. How is the user supposed to be able to figure out what
>> Microsoft programmers cannot figure out, namely how to identify malware.
>> The UAC system is crafted from the same stinking rubbish as the EULA.

>
> That's a real good conspiracy theory you've got going there. When's the
> book version come out? <blink>


It's not a theory when it's true.


 
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Jerry White
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      08-18-2007

"babaloo" <> wrote in message
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> The UAC as well as the way Vista equilibrates between administrator and
> user is just a confused hash of nothingness pretending to be security.
> Fundamentally the UAC warning box is a legal and PR tool: if the user
> okays something that comes up with a UAC warning box and the user should
> not have done so Microsoft places the blame on the user.
> In reality if Vista were any more secure than XP, and it is not, Vista
> would identify threats and explain what they are to the user instead of
> presenting both routine and possibly dangerous disc operations in an
> identical fashion. How is the user supposed to be able to figure out what
> Microsoft programmers cannot figure out, namely how to identify malware.
> The UAC system is crafted from the same stinking rubbish as the EULA.


I find it completely absurd that an OS that's been touted in al lthe hype
coming to it's relase that it was supposed to be advanced compared to
anything we've seen in the past, yet we get UAC. I full agree it should give
you information and be able ot identify a potential threat. Viast is NOT
nothing at all what it was hyped to be. It's XP/2000 with a face list and a
full on service pack.


 
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