Why upgrade to SBS2008

we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running since
2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times, where all
files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email continue to
function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other than
service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the console or
via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to restore the
server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new hardware. Our
needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any compelling
reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.

Thanks for your reply Chris - I was beginning to wonder if any MVP could give
any other reason other than future SBS2003 support
discontinuation.

A few more questions.

1. We do have the Installation disks. So I assume I can order the SBS2008
upgrade? Can I use the 2003 CALS with SBS2008?

2. Currently we use ISA, I have never found it to be difficult to configure,
but we also have a Cisco router with firewall. If we go with 2008, do we
still use a multi home with two NICS or only one?

3. You mention Mobile devices improvement. What is it that's been improved,
Is OMA improved?

4 We are using the SQL module in Premium to support both our Veritas Backup
Exec 12.0, and our Blackberry Enterprise Server databases. I know our
Veritas comes with an SQL manager that can be installed - do you know whether
I can get SBS2008 without SQL and use the Veritas to support the Blackberry
database?

Thanks.

"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:

> Did your SBS 2003 come pre-installed on your current server? In other words is it the OEM version? If so, it cannot be moved to the new hardware
> For me there are huge improvements in Exchange 2007 vs Exchange 2003, especially with OWA!
> Do you have Windows Mobile Devices? They will appreciate Exchange 2007 as well.
> RWW is bettter too in my opinion.
>
> But the other issue to consider is firewall. Are you using ISA now? Then you don't get that with 2008.
> If you already have a hardware firewall in place, then you should definitely consider 2008
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...7269967&sr=8-1
> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
> A Microsoft Registered Partner
> ------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>
> "jdc" <> wrote in message news:70B5960A-0E29-4696-8965-...
> we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running since
> 2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times, where all
> files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email continue to
> function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other than
> service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the console or
> via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to restore the
> server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new hardware. Our
> needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any compelling
> reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.

There are a bunch of scenarios that suddenly become possible with SBS 2008
that haven't been with SBS 2003, _especially_ if you move to SBS 2008
Premium. Because of the extra server, and the move to 64-bit, you can
virtualize SBS and the second server of SBS Premium onto a single physical
server. I run SBS 2008, plus the second server as a Terminal Server and TS
RemoteApp server, plus a third server (license covered under SA so no cost
to me) as my ISA server, all virtualized on a single physical server with 2
dual core processors and 16 GB of RAM.

Since you're running SQL and Blackberry Enterprise, having the second server
will make everything much cleaner.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"jdc" <> wrote in message
news:6FBF484D-5C42-4087-A606-...
> Thanks for your reply Chris - I was beginning to wonder if any MVP could
> give
> any other reason other than future SBS2003 support
> discontinuation.
>
> A few more questions.
>
> 1. We do have the Installation disks. So I assume I can order the SBS2008
> upgrade? Can I use the 2003 CALS with SBS2008?
>
> 2. Currently we use ISA, I have never found it to be difficult to
> configure,
> but we also have a Cisco router with firewall. If we go with 2008, do we
> still use a multi home with two NICS or only one?
>
> 3. You mention Mobile devices improvement. What is it that's been
> improved,
> Is OMA improved?
>
> 4 We are using the SQL module in Premium to support both our Veritas
> Backup
> Exec 12.0, and our Blackberry Enterprise Server databases. I know our
> Veritas comes with an SQL manager that can be installed - do you know
> whether
> I can get SBS2008 without SQL and use the Veritas to support the
> Blackberry
> database?
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Did your SBS 2003 come pre-installed on your current server? In other
>> words is it the OEM version? If so, it cannot be moved to the new
>> hardware
>> For me there are huge improvements in Exchange 2007 vs Exchange 2003,
>> especially with OWA!
>> Do you have Windows Mobile Devices? They will appreciate Exchange 2007
>> as well.
>> RWW is bettter too in my opinion.
>>
>> But the other issue to consider is firewall. Are you using ISA now?
>> Then you don't get that with 2008.
>> If you already have a hardware firewall in place, then you should
>> definitely consider 2008
>>
>> --
>> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
>> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...7269967&sr=8-1
>> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
>> A Microsoft Registered Partner
>> ------------------------------------
>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
>> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>>
>> "jdc" <> wrote in message
>> news:70B5960A-0E29-4696-8965-...
>> we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running
>> since
>> 2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times, where
>> all
>> files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email
>> continue to
>> function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other than
>> service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the
>> console or
>> via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to restore
>> the
>> server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new hardware.
>> Our
>> needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any
>> compelling
>> reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.

Just to comment on a minor part of your post - IMO the winding down of SBS
2003 support is a valid consideration in your scenario. You're getting
ready to put a major time investment into moving to new hardware, and in my
opinion, you'll get more mileage out of the installation if you use the
currently shipping version. This isn't SBS-specific thinking - my advice
would be the same if you were talking about any other OS, even something
non-Microsoft.

I'm not rushing to upgrade my perfectly functioning SBS 2003 before my
normal hardware refresh cycle, but if I were replacing hardware anyway, it
would never occur to me to stand up the new server with an old platform
version. It's not only the end of support, but also security, and that as
time passes, fewer applications, peripherals, etc. will be friendly to the
obsolete OS. Nobody's developing for SBS 2003 or Windows Server 2003.
Another thing to consider is that the MS migration path from 2003 to 2008
doesn't support using the same hardware, so if that's the upgrade route
you'd take, now is the perfect time to upgrade.

Here's a story you may not like to hear. In 2004, my SBS was becoming
unresponsive every 7 days, +/- a few hours. Within minutes, it would be to
the point where nothing less than a hard reboot would fix it, after which
everything was rosy for another 7 days. Extensive troubleshooting - weeks
with MS support doing performance monitoring, etc. - went into this, and my
boss was furious. He eventually told me to replace the hardware and start
over again. It turned out to be a rarely seen issue with a faulty antivirus
driver. If I'd replaced the server, I would have installed exactly the same
driver on the new hardware, making it very possible that a complete hardware
replacement would not have solved the problem.



"jdc" <> wrote in message
news:6FBF484D-5C42-4087-A606-...
> Thanks for your reply Chris - I was beginning to wonder if any MVP could
> give
> any other reason other than future SBS2003 support
> discontinuation.
>
> A few more questions.
>
> 1. We do have the Installation disks. So I assume I can order the SBS2008
> upgrade? Can I use the 2003 CALS with SBS2008?
>
> 2. Currently we use ISA, I have never found it to be difficult to
> configure,
> but we also have a Cisco router with firewall. If we go with 2008, do we
> still use a multi home with two NICS or only one?
>
> 3. You mention Mobile devices improvement. What is it that's been
> improved,
> Is OMA improved?
>
> 4 We are using the SQL module in Premium to support both our Veritas
> Backup
> Exec 12.0, and our Blackberry Enterprise Server databases. I know our
> Veritas comes with an SQL manager that can be installed - do you know
> whether
> I can get SBS2008 without SQL and use the Veritas to support the
> Blackberry
> database?
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Did your SBS 2003 come pre-installed on your current server? In other
>> words is it the OEM version? If so, it cannot be moved to the new
>> hardware
>> For me there are huge improvements in Exchange 2007 vs Exchange 2003,
>> especially with OWA!
>> Do you have Windows Mobile Devices? They will appreciate Exchange 2007
>> as well.
>> RWW is bettter too in my opinion.
>>
>> But the other issue to consider is firewall. Are you using ISA now?
>> Then you don't get that with 2008.
>> If you already have a hardware firewall in place, then you should
>> definitely consider 2008
>>
>> --
>> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
>> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...7269967&sr=8-1
>> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
>> A Microsoft Registered Partner
>> ------------------------------------
>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
>> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>>
>> "jdc" <> wrote in message
>> news:70B5960A-0E29-4696-8965-...
>> we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running
>> since
>> 2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times, where
>> all
>> files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email
>> continue to
>> function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other than
>> service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the
>> console or
>> via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to restore
>> the
>> server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new hardware.
>> Our
>> needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any
>> compelling
>> reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.

Thanks for scaring the crap out of me Dave !!!

To all I appreciate your thoughtful responses.

It's been my plan to upgrade to either SBS2008 on the new box, or Enterprise
2008 Server and go with Rackspace's Virtual Exchange solution. The ultimate
decision is not mine to make, only to define for others to make, so your
contributions have been appreciated.



"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> Just to comment on a minor part of your post - IMO the winding down of SBS
> 2003 support is a valid consideration in your scenario. You're getting
> ready to put a major time investment into moving to new hardware, and in my
> opinion, you'll get more mileage out of the installation if you use the
> currently shipping version. This isn't SBS-specific thinking - my advice
> would be the same if you were talking about any other OS, even something
> non-Microsoft.
>
> I'm not rushing to upgrade my perfectly functioning SBS 2003 before my
> normal hardware refresh cycle, but if I were replacing hardware anyway, it
> would never occur to me to stand up the new server with an old platform
> version. It's not only the end of support, but also security, and that as
> time passes, fewer applications, peripherals, etc. will be friendly to the
> obsolete OS. Nobody's developing for SBS 2003 or Windows Server 2003.
> Another thing to consider is that the MS migration path from 2003 to 2008
> doesn't support using the same hardware, so if that's the upgrade route
> you'd take, now is the perfect time to upgrade.
>
> Here's a story you may not like to hear. In 2004, my SBS was becoming
> unresponsive every 7 days, +/- a few hours. Within minutes, it would be to
> the point where nothing less than a hard reboot would fix it, after which
> everything was rosy for another 7 days. Extensive troubleshooting - weeks
> with MS support doing performance monitoring, etc. - went into this, and my
> boss was furious. He eventually told me to replace the hardware and start
> over again. It turned out to be a rarely seen issue with a faulty antivirus
> driver. If I'd replaced the server, I would have installed exactly the same
> driver on the new hardware, making it very possible that a complete hardware
> replacement would not have solved the problem.
>
>
>
> "jdc" <> wrote in message
> news:6FBF484D-5C42-4087-A606-...
> > Thanks for your reply Chris - I was beginning to wonder if any MVP could
> > give
> > any other reason other than future SBS2003 support
> > discontinuation.
> >
> > A few more questions.
> >
> > 1. We do have the Installation disks. So I assume I can order the SBS2008
> > upgrade? Can I use the 2003 CALS with SBS2008?
> >
> > 2. Currently we use ISA, I have never found it to be difficult to
> > configure,
> > but we also have a Cisco router with firewall. If we go with 2008, do we
> > still use a multi home with two NICS or only one?
> >
> > 3. You mention Mobile devices improvement. What is it that's been
> > improved,
> > Is OMA improved?
> >
> > 4 We are using the SQL module in Premium to support both our Veritas
> > Backup
> > Exec 12.0, and our Blackberry Enterprise Server databases. I know our
> > Veritas comes with an SQL manager that can be installed - do you know
> > whether
> > I can get SBS2008 without SQL and use the Veritas to support the
> > Blackberry
> > database?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Did your SBS 2003 come pre-installed on your current server? In other
> >> words is it the OEM version? If so, it cannot be moved to the new
> >> hardware
> >> For me there are huge improvements in Exchange 2007 vs Exchange 2003,
> >> especially with OWA!
> >> Do you have Windows Mobile Devices? They will appreciate Exchange 2007
> >> as well.
> >> RWW is bettter too in my opinion.
> >>
> >> But the other issue to consider is firewall. Are you using ISA now?
> >> Then you don't get that with 2008.
> >> If you already have a hardware firewall in place, then you should
> >> definitely consider 2008
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
> >> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
> >> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...7269967&sr=8-1
> >> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
> >> A Microsoft Registered Partner
> >> ------------------------------------
> >> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
> >> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
> >>
> >> "jdc" <> wrote in message
> >> news:70B5960A-0E29-4696-8965-...
> >> we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running
> >> since
> >> 2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times, where
> >> all
> >> files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email
> >> continue to
> >> function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other than
> >> service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the
> >> console or
> >> via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to restore
> >> the
> >> server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new hardware.
> >> Our
> >> needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any
> >> compelling
> >> reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.
>
> .
>

What the others have said and adding:

Having just been through a reinstall of SBS 2003, I will give you one more
reason to avoid reinstalling 03 if if possible. The cumulative effect of
upgrades is a days long process, with all the issues we fought through compressed
into a week or so. If you count your time, or your consultant's time for
anything, the cost of the purchase of SBS 2008 will be worth it in terms
of reduced installation time as well as the time spent in watching and helping
the box upgrade itself.

-
Larry
Please post the resolution to your
issue so others may benefit
-
Get Your SBS Health Check at
www.sbsbpa.com


> Thanks for scaring the crap out of me Dave !!!
>
> To all I appreciate your thoughtful responses.
>
> It's been my plan to upgrade to either SBS2008 on the new box, or
> Enterprise 2008 Server and go with Rackspace's Virtual Exchange
> solution. The ultimate decision is not mine to make, only to define
> for others to make, so your contributions have been appreciated.
>
> "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Just to comment on a minor part of your post - IMO the winding down
>> of SBS 2003 support is a valid consideration in your scenario.
>> You're getting ready to put a major time investment into moving to
>> new hardware, and in my opinion, you'll get more mileage out of the
>> installation if you use the currently shipping version. This isn't
>> SBS-specific thinking - my advice would be the same if you were
>> talking about any other OS, even something non-Microsoft.
>>
>> I'm not rushing to upgrade my perfectly functioning SBS 2003 before
>> my normal hardware refresh cycle, but if I were replacing hardware
>> anyway, it would never occur to me to stand up the new server with an
>> old platform version. It's not only the end of support, but also
>> security, and that as time passes, fewer applications, peripherals,
>> etc. will be friendly to the obsolete OS. Nobody's developing for
>> SBS 2003 or Windows Server 2003. Another thing to consider is that
>> the MS migration path from 2003 to 2008 doesn't support using the
>> same hardware, so if that's the upgrade route you'd take, now is the
>> perfect time to upgrade.
>>
>> Here's a story you may not like to hear. In 2004, my SBS was
>> becoming unresponsive every 7 days, +/- a few hours. Within minutes,
>> it would be to the point where nothing less than a hard reboot would
>> fix it, after which everything was rosy for another 7 days.
>> Extensive troubleshooting - weeks with MS support doing performance
>> monitoring, etc. - went into this, and my boss was furious. He
>> eventually told me to replace the hardware and start over again. It
>> turned out to be a rarely seen issue with a faulty antivirus driver.
>> If I'd replaced the server, I would have installed exactly the same
>> driver on the new hardware, making it very possible that a complete
>> hardware replacement would not have solved the problem.
>>
>> "jdc" <> wrote in message
>> news:6FBF484D-5C42-4087-A606-...
>>
>>> Thanks for your reply Chris - I was beginning to wonder if any MVP
>>> could
>>> give
>>> any other reason other than future SBS2003 support
>>> discontinuation.
>>> A few more questions.
>>>
>>> 1. We do have the Installation disks. So I assume I can order the
>>> SBS2008 upgrade? Can I use the 2003 CALS with SBS2008?
>>>
>>> 2. Currently we use ISA, I have never found it to be difficult to
>>> configure,
>>> but we also have a Cisco router with firewall. If we go with 2008,
>>> do we
>>> still use a multi home with two NICS or only one?
>>> 3. You mention Mobile devices improvement. What is it that's been
>>> improved,
>>> Is OMA improved?
>>> 4 We are using the SQL module in Premium to support both our Veritas
>>> Backup
>>> Exec 12.0, and our Blackberry Enterprise Server databases. I know
>>> our
>>> Veritas comes with an SQL manager that can be installed - do you
>>> know
>>> whether
>>> I can get SBS2008 without SQL and use the Veritas to support the
>>> Blackberry
>>> database?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did your SBS 2003 come pre-installed on your current server? In
>>>> other
>>>> words is it the OEM version? If so, it cannot be moved to the new
>>>> hardware
>>>> For me there are huge improvements in Exchange 2007 vs Exchange
>>>> 2003,
>>>> especially with OWA!
>>>> Do you have Windows Mobile Devices? They will appreciate Exchange
>>>> 2007
>>>> as well.
>>>> RWW is bettter too in my opinion.
>>>> But the other issue to consider is firewall. Are you using ISA
>>>> now?
>>>> Then you don't get that with 2008.
>>>> If you already have a hardware firewall in place, then you should
>>>> definitely consider 2008
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
>>>>
>>>> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...nleashed/dp/06
>>>> 72329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr= 8-1
>>>>
>>>> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
>>>>
>>>> A Microsoft Registered Partner
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
>>>>
>>>> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>>>>
>>>> "jdc" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:70B5960A-0E29-4696-8965-...
>>>> we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running
>>>> since
>>>> 2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times,
>>>> where
>>>> all
>>>> files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email
>>>> continue to
>>>> function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other
>>>> than
>>>> service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the
>>>> console or
>>>> via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to
>>>> restore
>>>> the
>>>> server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new
>>>> hardware.
>>>> Our
>>>> needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any
>>>> compelling
>>>> reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.
>> .
>>

JDC
Here is some other info you might find useful
Compare SBS2003 to SBS2008
http://www.sbits.biz/Differences_bet...nd_SBS2008.htm

Russ

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"Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> What the others have said and adding:
>
> Having just been through a reinstall of SBS 2003, I will give you one more
> reason to avoid reinstalling 03 if if possible. The cumulative effect of
> upgrades is a days long process, with all the issues we fought through
> compressed into a week or so. If you count your time, or your
> consultant's time for anything, the cost of the purchase of SBS 2008 will
> be worth it in terms of reduced installation time as well as the time
> spent in watching and helping the box upgrade itself.
>
> -
> Larry
> Please post the resolution to your
> issue so others may benefit
> -
> Get Your SBS Health Check at
> www.sbsbpa.com
>
>
>> Thanks for scaring the crap out of me Dave !!!
>>
>> To all I appreciate your thoughtful responses.
>>
>> It's been my plan to upgrade to either SBS2008 on the new box, or
>> Enterprise 2008 Server and go with Rackspace's Virtual Exchange
>> solution. The ultimate decision is not mine to make, only to define
>> for others to make, so your contributions have been appreciated.
>>
>> "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> Just to comment on a minor part of your post - IMO the winding down
>>> of SBS 2003 support is a valid consideration in your scenario.
>>> You're getting ready to put a major time investment into moving to
>>> new hardware, and in my opinion, you'll get more mileage out of the
>>> installation if you use the currently shipping version. This isn't
>>> SBS-specific thinking - my advice would be the same if you were
>>> talking about any other OS, even something non-Microsoft.
>>>
>>> I'm not rushing to upgrade my perfectly functioning SBS 2003 before
>>> my normal hardware refresh cycle, but if I were replacing hardware
>>> anyway, it would never occur to me to stand up the new server with an
>>> old platform version. It's not only the end of support, but also
>>> security, and that as time passes, fewer applications, peripherals,
>>> etc. will be friendly to the obsolete OS. Nobody's developing for
>>> SBS 2003 or Windows Server 2003. Another thing to consider is that
>>> the MS migration path from 2003 to 2008 doesn't support using the
>>> same hardware, so if that's the upgrade route you'd take, now is the
>>> perfect time to upgrade.
>>>
>>> Here's a story you may not like to hear. In 2004, my SBS was
>>> becoming unresponsive every 7 days, +/- a few hours. Within minutes,
>>> it would be to the point where nothing less than a hard reboot would
>>> fix it, after which everything was rosy for another 7 days.
>>> Extensive troubleshooting - weeks with MS support doing performance
>>> monitoring, etc. - went into this, and my boss was furious. He
>>> eventually told me to replace the hardware and start over again. It
>>> turned out to be a rarely seen issue with a faulty antivirus driver.
>>> If I'd replaced the server, I would have installed exactly the same
>>> driver on the new hardware, making it very possible that a complete
>>> hardware replacement would not have solved the problem.
>>>
>>> "jdc" <> wrote in message
>>> news:6FBF484D-5C42-4087-A606-...
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply Chris - I was beginning to wonder if any MVP
>>>> could
>>>> give
>>>> any other reason other than future SBS2003 support
>>>> discontinuation.
>>>> A few more questions.
>>>>
>>>> 1. We do have the Installation disks. So I assume I can order the
>>>> SBS2008 upgrade? Can I use the 2003 CALS with SBS2008?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Currently we use ISA, I have never found it to be difficult to
>>>> configure,
>>>> but we also have a Cisco router with firewall. If we go with 2008,
>>>> do we
>>>> still use a multi home with two NICS or only one?
>>>> 3. You mention Mobile devices improvement. What is it that's been
>>>> improved,
>>>> Is OMA improved?
>>>> 4 We are using the SQL module in Premium to support both our Veritas
>>>> Backup
>>>> Exec 12.0, and our Blackberry Enterprise Server databases. I know
>>>> our
>>>> Veritas comes with an SQL manager that can be installed - do you
>>>> know
>>>> whether
>>>> I can get SBS2008 without SQL and use the Veritas to support the
>>>> Blackberry
>>>> database?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did your SBS 2003 come pre-installed on your current server? In
>>>>> other
>>>>> words is it the OEM version? If so, it cannot be moved to the new
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> For me there are huge improvements in Exchange 2007 vs Exchange
>>>>> 2003,
>>>>> especially with OWA!
>>>>> Do you have Windows Mobile Devices? They will appreciate Exchange
>>>>> 2007
>>>>> as well.
>>>>> RWW is bettter too in my opinion.
>>>>> But the other issue to consider is firewall. Are you using ISA
>>>>> now?
>>>>> Then you don't get that with 2008.
>>>>> If you already have a hardware firewall in place, then you should
>>>>> definitely consider 2008
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997)
>>>>>
>>>>> Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-...nleashed/dp/06
>>>>> 72329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr= 8-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL
>>>>>
>>>>> A Microsoft Registered Partner
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not submit questions directly to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> "jdc" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:70B5960A-0E29-4696-8965-...
>>>>> we have an SBS2003 premium server that's been installed and running
>>>>> since
>>>>> 2006. In the past couple months our server has frozen 5-6 times,
>>>>> where
>>>>> all
>>>>> files and folders are unavailable, yet internet access and Email
>>>>> continue to
>>>>> function. When this happens, there are no event log entries other
>>>>> than
>>>>> service control failures, and I cannot log on to the server at the
>>>>> console or
>>>>> via RDP to try and recover and therefore must cycle power to
>>>>> restore
>>>>> the
>>>>> server. We have decided to do a complete reinstall on new
>>>>> hardware.
>>>>> Our
>>>>> needs are met with SBS2003, so i am wondering if there are any
>>>>> compelling
>>>>> reasons for us to upgrade to sbs2008. Please advise - thank you.
>>> .
>>>
>
>

SBS 2008 itself is 64 bit only. With the Premium edition you get another
Windows Server 2008 license to install on a second box and it can be either
32 or 64 bit.

"artzoop" <> wrote in message
news:6c5484e9-2cab-4938-b610-...
> Sorry if this has been addressed already in relation to why to upgrade
> to SBS 2008 -- but what if applications run on the SBS 2003 server are
> not compatible to run on 64-bits (SBS 2008)? Our office uses a
> billing/appointment program (Altapoint with an Advantage database)
> that Altapoint tells me works only on 32-bit machine.
>
> Can SBS 2008 be run as 32-bit? Other options?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Greg