Why is Vista so slow?

Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram, and
Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in my
opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will freeze
when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do with
it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore from
me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers from
anyone would be greatly appreciated!

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:44:04 -0700, Covfish
<> wrote:

>Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
>basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram, and
>Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in my
>opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
>responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will freeze
>when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
>convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do with
>it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
>Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore from
>me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
>times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers from
>anyone would be greatly appreciated!
Add another gig of memoey and you should see a huge increase in speed.
MS is saying Vista 'will run' in 1 gig of ram, true but not very well!

It takes up that much RAM?!!! Thats a disgrace! Think I'll go back to XP!
Thanks for the reply, hopefully this is what's behind it because I'm buggered
if I can find anything else.


"f/fgeorge" wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:44:04 -0700, Covfish
> <> wrote:
>
> >Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
> >basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram, and
> >Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in my
> >opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
> >responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will freeze
> >when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
> >convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do with
> >it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
> >Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore from
> >me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
> >times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers from
> >anyone would be greatly appreciated!
> Add another gig of memoey and you should see a huge increase in speed.
> MS is saying Vista 'will run' in 1 gig of ram, true but not very well!
>

Vista does have issues, but there are workarounds for many..

Re the browser, uninstall any 3rd party toolbars, and visit these websites
for tips on IE7

http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/tweaks.asp

http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#tsie

The games you are installing were not written specifically for Vista, most
being written well before Vista appeared, so expect some problems..
compatibility mode can be used successfully with some.. try it out.. if that
doesn't work, go to the game websites for fixes, patches, tips..

Vista is NOT XP with a new user interface.. so, what worked with XP may not
necessarily work with Vista.. in some cases, software contains an OS
identifier specifically so it will NOT work with any new OS, thus forcing
the user to buy the latest compatible version..

Hardware relies on drivers provided by the hardware manufacturer, and in
certain cases, the manufacturer has NO intention of providing Vista drivers,
again forcing the user to buy new..

MSN Messenger has been replaced by Windows Live Messenger..

Some of your problems may be caused by the manufacturer using beta drivers
for some of the hardware.. OEM manufacturers are not always what they should
be..


"Covfish" <> wrote in message
news:0FE8852D-6C58-4DBD-AF28-...
> Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
> basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram,
> and
> Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in
> my
> opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
> responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will
> freeze
> when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
> convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do
> with
> it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
> Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore
> from
> me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
> times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers
> from
> anyone would be greatly appreciated!

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

no.. MS says it will run with 512mb ram!

Find the site and see....

Vista is slow because is a FREAK OS!

"f/fgeorge" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:44:04 -0700, Covfish
> <> wrote:
>
>>Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
>>basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram,
>>and
>>Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in
>>my
>>opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
>>responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will
>>freeze
>>when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
>>convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do
>>with
>>it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
>>Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore
>>from
>>me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
>>times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers
>>from
>>anyone would be greatly appreciated!
> Add another gig of memoey and you should see a huge increase in speed.
> MS is saying Vista 'will run' in 1 gig of ram, true but not very well!

Yes go back to XP...

it is the best os...

Vista stinks big time

"Covfish" <> wrote in message
news:748C3785-DFE0-4245-B314-...
> It takes up that much RAM?!!! Thats a disgrace! Think I'll go back to XP!
> Thanks for the reply, hopefully this is what's behind it because I'm
> buggered
> if I can find anything else.
>
>
> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:44:04 -0700, Covfish
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
>> >basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of
>> >ram, and
>> >Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily
>> >in my
>> >opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
>> >responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will
>> >freeze
>> >when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom.
>> >I'm
>> >convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do
>> >with
>> >it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install
>> >MSN
>> >Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore
>> >from
>> >me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about
>> >7
>> >times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers
>> >from
>> >anyone would be greatly appreciated!
>> Add another gig of memoey and you should see a huge increase in speed.
>> MS is saying Vista 'will run' in 1 gig of ram, true but not very well!
>>

Thanks for your reply Mike.
I will try your suggestions, but to be perfectly honest I've never had any
problems with XP and I'd sooner go back to that than have to go through all
the teething problems of Vista.

In any case, thankyou so much for a decent reply. It is very much appreciated!


"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

> Vista does have issues, but there are workarounds for many..
>
> Re the browser, uninstall any 3rd party toolbars, and visit these websites
> for tips on IE7
>
> http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/tweaks.asp
>
> http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#tsie
>
> The games you are installing were not written specifically for Vista, most
> being written well before Vista appeared, so expect some problems..
> compatibility mode can be used successfully with some.. try it out.. if that
> doesn't work, go to the game websites for fixes, patches, tips..
>
> Vista is NOT XP with a new user interface.. so, what worked with XP may not
> necessarily work with Vista.. in some cases, software contains an OS
> identifier specifically so it will NOT work with any new OS, thus forcing
> the user to buy the latest compatible version..
>
> Hardware relies on drivers provided by the hardware manufacturer, and in
> certain cases, the manufacturer has NO intention of providing Vista drivers,
> again forcing the user to buy new..
>
> MSN Messenger has been replaced by Windows Live Messenger..
>
> Some of your problems may be caused by the manufacturer using beta drivers
> for some of the hardware.. OEM manufacturers are not always what they should
> be..
>
>
> "Covfish" <> wrote in message
> news:0FE8852D-6C58-4DBD-AF28-...
> > Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
> > basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram,
> > and
> > Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in
> > my
> > opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
> > responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will
> > freeze
> > when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
> > convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do
> > with
> > it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
> > Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore
> > from
> > me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
> > times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers
> > from
> > anyone would be greatly appreciated!
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>
>
>
>

It was the same for XP, but many have forgotten or were not around at the
time.. just like XP, Vista will mature and everything will improve..


"Covfish" <> wrote in message
news:3898F0D2-867E-473A-83EE-...
> Thanks for your reply Mike.
> I will try your suggestions, but to be perfectly honest I've never had any
> problems with XP and I'd sooner go back to that than have to go through
> all
> the teething problems of Vista.
>
> In any case, thankyou so much for a decent reply. It is very much
> appreciated!
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
>
>> Vista does have issues, but there are workarounds for many..
>>
>> Re the browser, uninstall any 3rd party toolbars, and visit these
>> websites
>> for tips on IE7
>>
>> http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/tweaks.asp
>>
>> http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#tsie
>>
>> The games you are installing were not written specifically for Vista,
>> most
>> being written well before Vista appeared, so expect some problems..
>> compatibility mode can be used successfully with some.. try it out.. if
>> that
>> doesn't work, go to the game websites for fixes, patches, tips..
>>
>> Vista is NOT XP with a new user interface.. so, what worked with XP may
>> not
>> necessarily work with Vista.. in some cases, software contains an OS
>> identifier specifically so it will NOT work with any new OS, thus forcing
>> the user to buy the latest compatible version..
>>
>> Hardware relies on drivers provided by the hardware manufacturer, and in
>> certain cases, the manufacturer has NO intention of providing Vista
>> drivers,
>> again forcing the user to buy new..
>>
>> MSN Messenger has been replaced by Windows Live Messenger..
>>
>> Some of your problems may be caused by the manufacturer using beta
>> drivers
>> for some of the hardware.. OEM manufacturers are not always what they
>> should
>> be..
>>
>>
>> "Covfish" <> wrote in message
>> news:0FE8852D-6C58-4DBD-AF28-...
>> > Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers
>> > is
>> > basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of
>> > ram,
>> > and
>> > Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily
>> > in
>> > my
>> > opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
>> > responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will
>> > freeze
>> > when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom.
>> > I'm
>> > convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do
>> > with
>> > it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install
>> > MSN
>> > Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore
>> > from
>> > me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about
>> > 7
>> > times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers
>> > from
>> > anyone would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Mike Hall
>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>
>>
>>
>>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

I have 1gig on RAM and Vista runs normally when UAC is disabled. When it's
active I cannot browse the internet due to slowness. It takes over a minute
to load MSN.com when UAC is active, disabled msn.com loads in 10 sec..

--

Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium



"f/fgeorge" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:44:04 -0700, Covfish
> <> wrote:
>
>>Hi all, please forgive me if this is basic (my knowledge of computers is
>>basic!). Bought a laptop with 2 gig centurion 64 processor, 1 gig of ram,
>>and
>>Windows Vista Home Basic. It should be zipping along relatively easily in
>>my
>>opinion, but its very slow and crashes (just freezes, with the odd "not
>>responding" message) when I'm doing the most basic of things. It will
>>freeze
>>when I'm on the net, when I'm trying to install games from cd/dvd-rom. I'm
>>convinced (although I have no evidence) that Vista has something to do
>>with
>>it, these games/programmes installed fine on XP (it won't even install MSN
>>Messenger). I took it back to the shop and the guy did a system restore
>>from
>>me back to factory settings, but is happening again. Its happened about 7
>>times this afternoon and I'm getting seriously frustrated. Any pointers
>>from
>>anyone would be greatly appreciated!
> Add another gig of memoey and you should see a huge increase in speed.
> MS is saying Vista 'will run' in 1 gig of ram, true but not very well!

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> It was the same for XP, but many have forgotten or were not around at
> the time.. just like XP, Vista will mature and everything will improve..

Compared to Ubuntu, XP sucks, even in its "mature" state.

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