Win 7 driver incompatibility

My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to be
compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.

It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
Windows.

If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta is
kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
really can do on it is surf the web.

Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
it is not clear where to get answers.

In my installation Win 7 does not recognize all the SATA hard drives plugged
into the motherboard, does not display the DVD/CD drives unless there is a
disk in them (can this be by design?) and, as you note, works with some
Vista hardware/peripheral drivers but not all.
Win7/Vista SP3 accesses the hard drives it manages to recognize faster than
Vista and the UAC is less obnoxious, but otherwise I am mystified by the
positive press it has received.
That Microsoft plans to charge for what is just a Vista fix should be the
subject of a class action lawsuit--I'm ready to sign up!
I would agree that Win7 is like using Linux: yes it runs, sort of, but what
can you do with it?

This is not a Windows 7 newsgroup.

Tyro

"Alan Edelman" <> wrote in message
news:90266F39-D6C2-4887-B7C6-...
> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to
> be compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.
>
> It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
> Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
> Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
> Windows.
>
> If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta
> is kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
> really can do on it is surf the web.
>
> Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
> screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
> Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
> usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
> it is not clear where to get answers.

Well Windows 7 installed 64 bit drivers for my NX300

"Alan Edelman" <> wrote in message
news:90266F39-D6C2-4887-B7C6-...
> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to
> be compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.
>
> It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
> Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
> Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
> Windows.
>
> If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta
> is kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
> really can do on it is surf the web.
>
> Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
> screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
> Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
> usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
> it is not clear where to get answers.

This is a Vista Newsgroup.

MS has given Windows 7 BETA to anybody that wants to try it; and in return
notify them about bugs.
MS has nothing to do with here; it is merely their servers.
Complain to MS.
--
Mad Mike


"Alan Edelman" wrote:

> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to be
> compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.
>
> It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
> Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
> Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
> Windows.
>
> If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta is
> kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
> really can do on it is surf the web.
>
> Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
> screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
> Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
> usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
> it is not clear where to get answers.
>

"Alan Edelman" <> wrote in message
news:90266F39-D6C2-4887-B7C6-...
> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to
> be compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.
>
> It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
> Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
> Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
> Windows.
>
> If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta
> is kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
> really can do on it is surf the web.
>
> Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
> screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
> Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
> usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
> it is not clear where to get answers.

it's a BETA release stupid
read
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&n...re&btnG=Search

Hi Alan,

> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to
> be compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.

Not quite. What Microsoft has said they are striving for is that Win7 will
run on the same level of hardware as Vista, meaning one need not have to
upgrade the hardware on their Vista system to run it. However, driver files
to support the hardware still need to be written specific to the operating
system. As Win7 is still early in the beta process, many of these supporting
files will not yet be present. Driver files included in the OS are usually
supplied by the device manufacturer, so until Epson creates these they won't
be present.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Alan Edelman" <> wrote in message
news:90266F39-D6C2-4887-B7C6-...
> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to
> be compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.
>
> It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
> Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
> Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
> Windows.
>
> If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta
> is kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
> really can do on it is surf the web.
>
> Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
> screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
> Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
> usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
> it is not clear where to get answers.

2 possibilities.

one
run the install using RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR
two
if 64 bit, at boot, use F8 and select DISABLE DRIVER SIGNING



"Alan Edelman" <> wrote in message
news:90266F39-D6C2-4887-B7C6-...
> My understanding, or misunderstanding, is that Win 7 32/64 is supposed to
> be compatible with corresponding drivers for Vista 32/64.
>
> It took about 5 minutes to find out this is not universally true. I have
> Epson's working scanner drivers for Vista 64 and these will not install in
> Win 7-64. The troubleshooter is as useless as it is in prior versions of
> Windows.
>
> If one cannot use supposedly compatible hardware/software the Win 7 beta
> is kind of pointless: like installing Ubuntu and finding out that all you
> really can do on it is surf the web.
>
> Has the press about driver compatibility been misleading or has Microsoft
> screwed the pooch yet again? Microsoft is not supporting the beta, but
> Microsoft does not support anything anyway without charging for what is
> usually incorrect advice ( I have the credit card slips to prove that), so
> it is not clear where to get answers.

"Cody Jarrett" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:55:39 -0800, "tickledpink"
> <> wrote:
>
>>That Microsoft plans to charge for what is just a Vista fix should be the
>>subject of a class action lawsuit--I'm ready to sign up!
>
> You'll never get admitted to Law School with air-headed thinking like
> that.
>
> In fact, I'd guess that you had a hard time finishing whatever your
> last school was with that air-headed thinking.

You might want to check this out

http://medical-office.topcareerschoo...n_id=12320959&

Steve Ballmer, using the good judgment that keeps his foot firmly planted in
his mouth, has said that Win7 is merely an improved version of Vista.
I have little doubt then that there will be legal challenges demanding
Microsoft prove that there is enough "new" in Win7 to justify charging for
it and not offering it as an upgrade to Vista which, according to Ballmer is
what it is.
Remember that Microsoft said that Internet Explorer et al could not be
stripped out of Windows until the European courts said it had to be.