Not in Live Mail it doesn't. And choosing Apply Now in OE also did not
change the mail rule. Are you saying that the functionality of the rule
used to be temporarily changed to 'currently downloaded messages' (which
would generally be 'all messages')?
"...winston" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Apply after the message arrives is the default during rule creation and
> after saving.
> When accessing it manually to 'Apply Now' then the Apply This Rule 'After
> Message arrives' changes to 'to currently downloaded messages'
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
> news:5959AD4E-E65A-44A7-9C29-...
>> This would indicate that in the past it wasn't working as designed, then.
>> I note on the remaining XP/OE machine here that 'Apply this rule after
>> the message arrives' is the default tick-point on every mail rule. Yet
>> it works on already-received messages, unlike Live Mail under v7.
>>
>> "...winston" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Hmm.
>>>
>>> I use/used rule(s) for both Mail and News with success upon receipt and
>>> post receipt(Apply Now).
>>>
>>> Fyi..the first line of any created rule is:
>>> Apply this rule after the message arrives
>>>
>>> To use a rule otherwise one must use the Apply Now function(note a rule
>>> and a folder must be selected to apply properly)
>>>
>>> --
>>> ...winston
>>> MS-MVP[Mail]
>>>
>>> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
>>> news:16F70D0B-5D3E-4817-B9EC-...
>>>> So why have my myriad of mail rules actually worked up until now? The
>>>> difference in mail folder structure, or what someone called The
>>>> Database? After I redid the entire batch of them to include 'stop
>>>> processing more rules' I have noted that the rules only work on
>>>> messages when they are received. When one tries to Apply Now - which
>>>> still always defaults to Storage Folders, bizarrely - it chugs through
>>>> and takes a lot of time going through each and every folder, but moves
>>>> nothing.
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen (MS MVP)" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> I guess you lead a charmed life. :-)
>>>>> As far as we know, the message rule handling has not changed
>>>>> throughout the OE6/Windows Mail/ Windows Live Mail evolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:99075CD4-0829-4D65-AD20-...
>>>>>> Honest, in all the years I've used OE with quite a long list of mail
>>>>>> rules,
>>>>>> I have _never_ had this problem until upgrading to Win 7 and
>>>>>> switching to
>>>>>> Live Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen (MS MVP)" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u#...
>>>>>>> The 'Stop processing...' requirement has been in effect for as
>>>>>>> long as I can remember.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not an automatic default because some users really do want
>>>>>>> an incoming message processed by multiple rules.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Users often get away with not having the 'Stop...' because
>>>>>>> the message doesn't meet the criteria in the other rules.
>>>>>>> Nevertheless, that practice churns up unnecessary CPU cycles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:2F0C1F18-B56B-4E53-A7C6-...
>>>>>>>> Funny that, this is the first time I've ever heard of this item, in
>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> number of years using Outlook Express, and with a good number of
>>>>>>>> Mail
>>>>>>>> Rules
>>>>>>>> in use all that time, in varying forms. When did this become a
>>>>>>>> 'required
>>>>>>>> action', and why isn't it enabled by default when any mail rules
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> created? I found it, way down towards the bottom of actions, not
>>>>>>>> enabled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only time I've ever encountered a problem as described as
>>>>>>>> 'unwanted
>>>>>>>> dispositions' (sounds like one for the books along with 'feature'
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> 'anomaly'!), was when I had a friend who worked at JPL/NASA, and
>>>>>>>> also was
>>>>>>>> receiving newsletter emails from NASA. Until I changed my friend's
>>>>>>>> rule
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be processed after being received I'd get them in the same folder.
>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>> what you're telling me this pair of rules should not have worked,
>>>>>>>> since I
>>>>>>>> didn't have 'stop processing more rules' enabled (and never have
>>>>>>>> had to).
>>>>>>>> So what you're saying is that I have to go through all my mail
>>>>>>>> rules,
>>>>>>>> checking this previously-unknown tick-box, and make sure that 'stop
>>>>>>>> processing more rules' is enabled - and make sure it's also enabled
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> future mail rules I create. Is that correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen (MS MVP)" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>>> If you have more than one rule, you must use "Stop processing more
>>>>>>>>> rules". Otherwise the message will be processed by multiple rules,
>>>>>>>>> which usually results in unwanted dispositions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tools, Message rules, Mail, New (or Modify), second box ("Select
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> or more actions"), scroll down until you see that Stop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...le/vandermolen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%233ud$...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>>>>> Does you rule also include Stop processing more rules?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. Where does a Mail Rule get to do that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:91A2C303-797E-43BD-BA57-...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ron Sommer" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:#L#...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Stephen Goodman" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:9C6DD359-3876-43DB-929B-...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> snipped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not the problem, as previously stated. It's the fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rules won't move received messages into Storage Folders,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact that the mail rules dialogs allow you to select a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a target, with no error, and this allegedly invalid rule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> act
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as if it performs the task, but moves no message and produces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> snipped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the condition for the rule? If the From contains an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>> address?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, for example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apply this rule after the message arrives
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where the From line contains 'amazon.com'
>>>>>>>>>>>> Move it to the Amazon folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Amazon folder is inside Storage Folders/Imported
>>>>>>>>>>>> Folder/Local
>>>>>>>>>>>> Folders/Inbox/Amazon. The New rule and Modify rule buttons
>>>>>>>>>>>> allow you
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> select that very folder, and execute the rule, but nothing gets
>>>>>>>>>>>> moved
>>>>>>>>>>>> when one performs an Apply Now, nor when a new message from
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone at
>>>>>>>>>>>> amazon.com arrives. If I replicate the folder manually under
>>>>>>>>>>>> the POP
>>>>>>>>>>>> account's Inbox/Amazon, and redirect the rule to move messages
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon folder, the rule works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Goodman
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Sommer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-Mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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