Win updates again....

Hi all,

I have recently turned on auto updates to the extent of notifying me of them
b4 download or install them.
It gave me a list of a bunch of updates for my xp sp2, it offered sp3 which
i declined but i accepted the other 20 or so. Since then the update shield
comes up in the task bar downloading but always dissapears, leading me to
assume the downloader keeps crashing. But no error codes

So i tried full auto updates, same problem, looks as tho its downloading but
then dissapears outta site.

So i tried manually updating, i get re-directed to MSN hompage.
I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites. I am suprised my IE7
accesses this site without re-directing me.

Iv tried registering wup2.dll / wups.dll but it made no difference, I have
panda 2009 firewall and anti virus/spyware etc.

Can anyone help? Thanks

Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315

Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis log
to an appropriate forum.

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware

When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
(http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use (in
conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix anything on
its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to
http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for review
by an expert in such matters, not here.**

If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting this
isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Tj wrote:
> I have recently turned on auto updates to the extent of notifying me of
> them
> b4 download or install them.
> It gave me a list of a bunch of updates for my xp sp2, it offered sp3
> which
> i declined but i accepted the other 20 or so. Since then the update
> shield
> comes up in the task bar downloading but always dissapears, leading me to
> assume the downloader keeps crashing. But no error codes
>
> So i tried full auto updates, same problem, looks as tho its downloading
> but
> then dissapears outta site.
>
> So i tried manually updating, i get re-directed to MSN hompage.
> I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites. I am suprised my IE7
> accesses this site without re-directing me.
>
> Iv tried registering wup2.dll / wups.dll but it made no difference, I have
> panda 2009 firewall and anti virus/spyware etc.
>
> Can anyone help? Thanks

ok, i understand the message but, how come adobe can up-date auto without
problems yet windows updates cannot, i mean surely the adware/spyware/hi-jack
would affect 'any' connection to my pc not just win updates!? or am i
wrong?Are my problems just cause some fooker is hi/jacking my connnection
through windows, but this stil does not make sense to me.!???

Frustrated xp user

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315
>
> Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis log
> to an appropriate forum.
>
> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
>
> When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
> (http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use (in
> conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix anything on
> its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any
> hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to
> http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
> http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
> http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for review
> by an expert in such matters, not here.**
>
> If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting this
> isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
> independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Tj wrote:
> > I have recently turned on auto updates to the extent of notifying me of
> > them
> > b4 download or install them.
> > It gave me a list of a bunch of updates for my xp sp2, it offered sp3
> > which
> > i declined but i accepted the other 20 or so. Since then the update
> > shield
> > comes up in the task bar downloading but always dissapears, leading me to
> > assume the downloader keeps crashing. But no error codes
> >
> > So i tried full auto updates, same problem, looks as tho its downloading
> > but
> > then dissapears outta site.
> >
> > So i tried manually updating, i get re-directed to MSN hompage.
> > I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites. I am suprised my IE7
> > accesses this site without re-directing me.
> >
> > Iv tried registering wup2.dll / wups.dll but it made no difference, I have
> > panda 2009 firewall and anti virus/spyware etc.
> >
> > Can anyone help? Thanks
>
>

Adobe and Windows don't auto-update the same way.

>>> So i tried manually updating, i get re-directed to MSN hompage.
>>> I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites. I am suprised my
>>> IE7
>>> accesses this site without re-directing me.

You are being redirected (i.e., from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com to
www.msn.com. All of this behavior is caused by a hijackware infection.

Tj wrote:
> ok, i understand the message but, how come adobe can up-date auto without
> problems yet windows updates cannot, i mean surely the
> adware/spyware/hi-jack would affect 'any' connection to my pc not just win
> updates!? or am i wrong?Are my problems just cause some fooker is
> hi/jacking my connnection through windows, but this stil does not make
> sense to me.!???
>
> Frustrated xp user
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315
>>
>> Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis
>> log to an appropriate forum.
>>
>> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
>> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
>> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
>> http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
>>
>> When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
>> (http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use
>> (in conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix
>> anything on its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any
>> hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to
>> http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
>> http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
>> http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for
>> review by an expert in such matters, not here.**
>>
>> If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting
>> this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
>> independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair
>> shop.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> Tj wrote:
>>> I have recently turned on auto updates to the extent of notifying me of
>>> them
>>> b4 download or install them.
>>> It gave me a list of a bunch of updates for my xp sp2, it offered sp3
>>> which
>>> i declined but i accepted the other 20 or so. Since then the update
>>> shield
>>> comes up in the task bar downloading but always dissapears, leading me
>>> to
>>> assume the downloader keeps crashing. But no error codes
>>>
>>> So i tried full auto updates, same problem, looks as tho its downloading
>>> but
>>> then dissapears outta site.
>>>
>>> So i tried manually updating, i get re-directed to MSN hompage.
>>> I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites. I am suprised my
>>> IE7
>>> accesses this site without re-directing me.
>>>
>>> Iv tried registering wup2.dll / wups.dll but it made no difference, I
>>> have
>>> panda 2009 firewall and anti virus/spyware etc.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help? Thanks

Tj wrote:
> ok, i understand the message but, how come adobe can up-date auto
> without problems yet windows updates cannot, i mean surely the
> adware/spyware/hi-jack would affect 'any' connection to my pc not
> just win updates!? or am i wrong?Are my problems just cause some
> fooker is hi/jacking my connnection through windows, but this stil
> does not make sense to me.!???
>
> Frustrated xp user


That wild goose chase should keep you busy for a while. When there is no
explanation or understanding you will always get that pasted reply. Half
those links are either outdated or outright spam.

Good luck.



>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315
>>
>> Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your
>> hijackthis log to an appropriate forum.
>>
>> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
>> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_R...:_Introduction
>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
>> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
>> http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
>>
>> When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2
>> (http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to
>> use (in conjunction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT
>> fix anything on its own, but it will help you to both identify and
>> remove any hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert.
>> **Post your log to
>> http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachi...php?board=10.0,
>> http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
>> http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum
>> for review by an expert in such matters, not here.**
>>
>> If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in
>> admitting this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local,
>> reputable and independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad)
>> computer repair shop. --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>> Tj wrote:
>>> I have recently turned on auto updates to the extent of notifying
>>> me of them
>>> b4 download or install them.
>>> It gave me a list of a bunch of updates for my xp sp2, it offered
>>> sp3 which
>>> i declined but i accepted the other 20 or so. Since then the update
>>> shield
>>> comes up in the task bar downloading but always dissapears, leading
>>> me to assume the downloader keeps crashing. But no error codes
>>>
>>> So i tried full auto updates, same problem, looks as tho its
>>> downloading but
>>> then dissapears outta site.
>>>
>>> So i tried manually updating, i get re-directed to MSN hompage.
>>> I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites. I am suprised
>>> my IE7 accesses this site without re-directing me.
>>>
>>> Iv tried registering wup2.dll / wups.dll but it made no difference,
>>> I have panda 2009 firewall and anti virus/spyware etc.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help? Thanks

"Jake" <> wrote in message
news:...

> That wild goose chase should keep you busy for a while. When there is no
> explanation or understanding you will always get that pasted reply. Half
> those links are either outdated or outright spam.
>

They all look perfectly good to me. Would you care to expand on which ones
you consider "outdated" and "spam"?

Gordon wrote:
> "Jake" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>> That wild goose chase should keep you busy for a while. When there
>> is no explanation or understanding you will always get that pasted
>> reply. Half those links are either outdated or outright spam.
>>
>
> They all look perfectly good to me. Would you care to expand on which
> ones you consider "outdated" and "spam"?


Poooleeze.........I spent hours going through that clump of crap that is
mostly common procedures to keep a clean System. "If all else fails post
your Highjack This results.........." Whahaha.......it would be quicker to
do a clean install. More problems are caused by Windows Update failures.
There is the malware mentioned.

That pasted response was handed to me for a totally unrelated problem on a
different group and I stand by my claim. If the fix is unknown then why does
anyone send someone off like that. That response could be handed to anyone
for any problem on any group. Just tell everyone to come back when you are
sure you have a clean System fully updated which completes a circle. People
would be better off spending time reading about all the failures of Windows
Updates itself. I put together clean new systems that have never been online
or downloaded anything and had troubles with Windows updates like many
mentioned here. If you simply don't have an answer then don't reply. Simple
as that.

"Jake" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> Gordon wrote:
>> "Jake" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>>> That wild goose chase should keep you busy for a while. When there
>>> is no explanation or understanding you will always get that pasted
>>> reply. Half those links are either outdated or outright spam.
>>>
>>
>> They all look perfectly good to me. Would you care to expand on which
>> ones you consider "outdated" and "spam"?
>
>
> Poooleeze.........I spent hours going through that clump of crap that is
> mostly common procedures to keep a clean System.


So in fact there is NOTHING there that is "outdated" or "spam".

Gordon wrote:
> "Jake" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>>
>> Gordon wrote:
>>> "Jake" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>
>>>> That wild goose chase should keep you busy for a while. When there
>>>> is no explanation or understanding you will always get that pasted
>>>> reply. Half those links are either outdated or outright spam.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They all look perfectly good to me. Would you care to expand on
>>> which ones you consider "outdated" and "spam"?
>>
>>
>> Poooleeze.........I spent hours going through that clump of crap
>> that is mostly common procedures to keep a clean System.
>
>
> So in fact there is NOTHING there that is "outdated" or "spam".

Tell me you have been to those sites and seen no spam. Tell me there is
anything new offered. Tell me Windows Updates itself blameless. People come
to these groups because of those failures. Not for diversions that would
take months to review. MOST problems with Windows update are NOT due to
information provided. Deal with it.

Jake wrote:

> [blah, blah, blah...] Tell me Windows Updates itself blameless.

There are a few known issues with Windows Update, none of which produce the
symptoms the OP described. In almost all cases, symptoms like those of the OP
are due to malware.

> MOST problems with Windows update are NOT due to
> information provided. Deal with it.

The OP said: "I cant seem to download anything from any MS sites."

Would you care to explain how you think Windows Update is to blame for this one?

Harry.