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      03-08-2009
I lose my audio when windows starts and exits now, but have the other audios.
I have tried just about everything that I know how to correct this. But I
have not yet deleted certin windows updats to see if te corrects theproblem.
What's with MS that they would have this happen. I have a Diamond sound Card
and did try the new driver update....no go on that
 
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      03-08-2009
JB wrote:
> I lose my audio when windows starts and exits now, but have the
> other audios. I have tried just about everything that I know how to
> correct this. But I have not yet deleted certin windows updats to
> see if te corrects theproblem. What's with MS that they would have
> this happen. I have a Diamond sound Card and did try the new driver
> update....no go on that


So remove the 'certain windows updates' you infer you know about and come
back after you have done this to let everyone know if it worked out for
you - as well as a list (by KB######) of the updates you thought might be to
blame - either way.

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      03-08-2009
Stan

When I choose a KB# to delete or remove .... alittle window pops up and says
that the removeal of thisone update will effect a few others or even mote
whenI look at a few other KB#'s.
So, my question is....still go ahead and delete theone KB and see what
happens?

Along time ago, I was having trouble on another computer when a tech told me
to delete all up dates, load the program becuase the updates came be
downloaded again

JB
> So remove the 'certain windows updates' you infer you know about and come
> back after you have done this to let everyone know if it worked out for
> you - as well as a list (by KB######) of the updates you thought might be to
> blame - either way.
>
> --
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> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

 
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      03-08-2009
JB wrote:
> I lose my audio when windows starts and exits now, but have the
> other audios. I have tried just about everything that I know how to
> correct this. But I have not yet deleted certin windows updats to
> see if te corrects theproblem. What's with MS that they would have
> this happen. I have a Diamond sound Card and did try the new driver
> update....no go on that


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> So remove the 'certain windows updates' you infer you know about
> and come back after you have done this to let everyone know if it
> worked out for
> you - as well as a list (by KB######) of the updates you thought
> might be to blame - either way.


JB wrote:
> When I choose a KB# to delete or remove .... alittle window pops up
> and says that the removeal of thisone update will effect a few
> others or even mote whenI look at a few other KB#'s.
> So, my question is....still go ahead and delete theone KB and see
> what happens?
>
> Along time ago, I was having trouble on another computer when a
> tech told me to delete all up dates, load the program becuase the
> updates came be downloaded again


It should be fine for you to remove said updates - as long as you have
decent backups and make a note of the KB###### you remove and what it says
it might effect.

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      03-08-2009
OMG Stan.....I'll do with oiut the start up and exit sound. No BS, in Dec I
entertained some sort of virus and have reloaded the puter 4 times since
Xmas. Again just 2 days ago....although I was hell bent on not doing any
updats....I still wanted IE7, so in the process of downloading IE7....just
like MS and they must "ear mark" other updates to follow the download. SO
that is why I am here ... now. But I am not going to write down and try to
back up the updates.....I see that being another reload and ral PITA. But I
do thank you for your input. I thought this forum would have MS looking
itover and they can find the problem...becuase obviously that must happen to
others ....maybe on too small of a percentage
Have a great day...............I will keep my eyes and ears open for anyting
on this. My other thought would be to use a Vista driver....if there is such
a thing
JB

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> JB wrote:
> > I lose my audio when windows starts and exits now, but have the
> > other audios. I have tried just about everything that I know how to
> > correct this. But I have not yet deleted certin windows updats to
> > see if te corrects theproblem. What's with MS that they would have
> > this happen. I have a Diamond sound Card and did try the new driver
> > update....no go on that

>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > So remove the 'certain windows updates' you infer you know about
> > and come back after you have done this to let everyone know if it
> > worked out for
> > you - as well as a list (by KB######) of the updates you thought
> > might be to blame - either way.

>
> JB wrote:
> > When I choose a KB# to delete or remove .... alittle window pops up
> > and says that the removeal of thisone update will effect a few
> > others or even mote whenI look at a few other KB#'s.
> > So, my question is....still go ahead and delete theone KB and see
> > what happens?
> >
> > Along time ago, I was having trouble on another computer when a
> > tech told me to delete all up dates, load the program becuase the
> > updates came be downloaded again

>
> It should be fine for you to remove said updates - as long as you have
> decent backups and make a note of the KB###### you remove and what it says
> it might effect.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

 
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      03-08-2009


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> JB wrote:
> > I lose my audio when windows starts and exits now, but have the
> > other audios. I have tried just about everything that I know how to
> > correct this. But I have not yet deleted certin windows updats to
> > see if te corrects theproblem. What's with MS that they would have
> > this happen. I have a Diamond sound Card and did try the new driver
> > update....no go on that

>
> So remove the 'certain windows updates' you infer you know about and come
> back after you have done this to let everyone know if it worked out for
> you - as well as a list (by KB######) of the updates you thought might be to
> blame - either way.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

 
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JB
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      03-08-2009
I will hold off until I hear back from Diamond Multi Media... I emailed them
this AM...I will until I hear what they have to say. I would think I am not
the only one with a Diamond XS 5.1 sound card

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> JB wrote:
> > I lose my audio when windows starts and exits now, but have the
> > other audios. I have tried just about everything that I know how to
> > correct this. But I have not yet deleted certin windows updats to
> > see if te corrects theproblem. What's with MS that they would have
> > this happen. I have a Diamond sound Card and did try the new driver
> > update....no go on that

>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > So remove the 'certain windows updates' you infer you know about
> > and come back after you have done this to let everyone know if it
> > worked out for
> > you - as well as a list (by KB######) of the updates you thought
> > might be to blame - either way.

>
> JB wrote:
> > When I choose a KB# to delete or remove .... alittle window pops up
> > and says that the removeal of thisone update will effect a few
> > others or even mote whenI look at a few other KB#'s.
> > So, my question is....still go ahead and delete theone KB and see
> > what happens?
> >
> > Along time ago, I was having trouble on another computer when a
> > tech told me to delete all up dates, load the program becuase the
> > updates came be downloaded again

>
> It should be fine for you to remove said updates - as long as you have
> decent backups and make a note of the KB###### you remove and what it says
> it might effect.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

 
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Shenan Stanley
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      03-08-2009
JB wrote:
> OMG Stan.....I'll do with oiut the start up and exit sound. No BS,
> in Dec I entertained some sort of virus and have reloaded the puter
> 4 times since Xmas. Again just 2 days ago....although I was hell
> bent on not doing any updats....I still wanted IE7, so in the
> process of downloading IE7....just like MS and they must "ear mark"
> other updates to follow the download. SO that is why I am here ...
> now. But I am not going to write down and try to back up the
> updates.....I see that being another reload and ral PITA. But I do
> thank you for your input. I thought this forum would have MS
> looking itover and they can find the problem...becuase obviously
> that must happen to others ....maybe on too small of a percentage
> Have a great day...............I will keep my eyes and ears open
> for anyting on this. My other thought would be to use a Vista
> driver....if there is such a thing


You gave the possibility of removing "cert[a]in windows updat[e]s", yet you
don't list these certain Windows Updates you have in mind?

You said, "But I have not yet deleted certin windows updats to see if te
corrects theproblem." which implied that you knew of "cert[a]in windows
updat[e]s" and had just not acted on this knowledge - so I suggested you
remove them. Still do. When I say "decent backups" - I mean of your system
(which you have now made obvious you likely do not - or you would not have
had to rebuild your system from scratch at all in most cases - much less
four times) - not of the KB######'s. Also, I think writing down the list of
"cert[a]in windows updat[e]s" before removing them and writing down the
short list of things those "cert[a]in windows updat[e]s" warn you about
would be less trouble than what you claim to have gone through already.

Just remove them, ignore the warning - if you even have an idea of
"cert[a]in windows updat[e]s" at this time, that is. In my many years doing
this and ignoring that warning - the worst thing that happened is I had to
install IE7 over again. You could uninstall IE7 if you want, then most of
the warnings will likely go away (but not all - I am sure.)

If you have reloaded the computer four times since Christmas and it was
working before you reloaded it - but not now - I would think you have done
something wrong. Make sure you have **all** the latest drivers for every
hardware device straight from the manufacturer - not from Microsoft (unless
one of the pieces of hardware is manufacturered by Microsoft.) This
includes the motherboard chipset, audio, video and network...

Also - you could give the list of updates you believe to be the problem
before you even think about doing it - and I am sure others can comment on
their effect on your current situation, etc.

However - now I think I am understanding that you have sound after Windows
actually starts (you can play MP3s, listen to sounds from the Internet, view
videos from where ever and they have sounds, etc...) - I cannot see why this
is a bother (really - those are sounds I usually turn off first thing - I
don't turn off/on a computer enough to care - and most of the other Windows
sounds have no purpose i see other than annoying me.

If you really feel these sounds are necessary...
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...und/77346.html

Try those solutions!

Good Luck!

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