Win2k3 AD AND DC BACKUP and RESTORE in case of DISASTER.

I have a question about setting up a ad/dc backup so I will be able to
restore my dc's and ad from Complete failure.

Please note I want to only use the built in tools available from MS with
server 2003 and I will not be allowed to buy a 3rd party tape backup
solution/agent that will allow me to do this.

Firstly the ASR wizard creates stiffies after I connect a USB stiffy drive
to my server. Then I save a full backup as a file
(including the system state) to external HDD.

Should this be sufficient to allow me to resore my server to other hardware
incase a tank drives over my server cabinet?

Would I have to use the exact same hardware for the restore?

If this is true is there a way for me to get this setup so I can install on
to diffrent hardware?

Would a system image through something like ghost be a option?

But once again since I am running raid I have tried using ghost with raid
drives and the result was not very Encouraging.

This is why I like the image based backup coming to windows finnaly in vista
and server 2008.

Any info or helpfull advice appreciated.

Ghost is actually a prerty nice option. But symantec also has a backup
software called Backup Exec System Recovery. With that you can create a boot
cd, create a image of the hard drive to an external drive, and boot with the
cd and restore the entire computer. Hope that helps.
"Ricus" <> wrote in message
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>I have a question about setting up a ad/dc backup so I will be able to
> restore my dc's and ad from Complete failure.
>
> Please note I want to only use the built in tools available from MS with
> server 2003 and I will not be allowed to buy a 3rd party tape backup
> solution/agent that will allow me to do this.
>
> Firstly the ASR wizard creates stiffies after I connect a USB stiffy drive
> to my server. Then I save a full backup as a file
> (including the system state) to external HDD.
>
> Should this be sufficient to allow me to resore my server to other
> hardware
> incase a tank drives over my server cabinet?
>
> Would I have to use the exact same hardware for the restore?
>
> If this is true is there a way for me to get this setup so I can install
> on
> to diffrent hardware?
>
> Would a system image through something like ghost be a option?
>
> But once again since I am running raid I have tried using ghost with raid
> drives and the result was not very Encouraging.
>
> This is why I like the image based backup coming to windows finnaly in
> vista
> and server 2008.
>
> Any info or helpfull advice appreciated.
>
>

Hello Ricus,

You can do backup/restore with the builtin tools, no problem. A NOT supproted
way of backup DCs is taking an image or snapshot, this results in USN rollback.

See the links for more information:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...72(WS.10).aspx

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/263532

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216993

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316790

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875495

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...27(WS.10).aspx

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> I have a question about setting up a ad/dc backup so I will be able
> to restore my dc's and ad from Complete failure.
>
> Please note I want to only use the built in tools available from MS
> with server 2003 and I will not be allowed to buy a 3rd party tape
> backup solution/agent that will allow me to do this.
>
> Firstly the ASR wizard creates stiffies after I connect a USB stiffy
> drive to my server. Then I save a full backup as a file (including the
> system state) to external HDD.
>
> Should this be sufficient to allow me to resore my server to other
> hardware incase a tank drives over my server cabinet?
>
> Would I have to use the exact same hardware for the restore?
>
> If this is true is there a way for me to get this setup so I can
> install on to diffrent hardware?
>
> Would a system image through something like ghost be a option?
>
> But once again since I am running raid I have tried using ghost with
> raid drives and the result was not very Encouraging.
>
> This is why I like the image based backup coming to windows finnaly in
> vista and server 2008.
>
> Any info or helpfull advice appreciated.
>

Thanks for the links and comments gentleman.

So basically it seems to me other than having a tape drive on each dc or
using some form of 3rd party software there is no way to do a Disaster
recovery backup of windows server 2003.

No means of using a external HDD or usb stick instead...?
--
General System Admin and IT manager


"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello Ricus,
>
> You can do backup/restore with the builtin tools, no problem. A NOT supproted
> way of backup DCs is taking an image or snapshot, this results in USN rollback.
>
> See the links for more information:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...72(WS.10).aspx
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/263532
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216993
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316790
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875495
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...27(WS.10).aspx
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > I have a question about setting up a ad/dc backup so I will be able
> > to restore my dc's and ad from Complete failure.
> >
> > Please note I want to only use the built in tools available from MS
> > with server 2003 and I will not be allowed to buy a 3rd party tape
> > backup solution/agent that will allow me to do this.
> >
> > Firstly the ASR wizard creates stiffies after I connect a USB stiffy
> > drive to my server. Then I save a full backup as a file (including the
> > system state) to external HDD.
> >
> > Should this be sufficient to allow me to resore my server to other
> > hardware incase a tank drives over my server cabinet?
> >
> > Would I have to use the exact same hardware for the restore?
> >
> > If this is true is there a way for me to get this setup so I can
> > install on to diffrent hardware?
> >
> > Would a system image through something like ghost be a option?
> >
> > But once again since I am running raid I have tried using ghost with
> > raid drives and the result was not very Encouraging.
> >
> > This is why I like the image based backup coming to windows finnaly in
> > vista and server 2008.
> >
> > Any info or helpfull advice appreciated.
> >
>
>
>

Hello Ricus,

You can place the backup files created with ntbackup on any drive you like.
Has nothing to do with 3rd party software.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Thanks for the links and comments gentleman.
>
> So basically it seems to me other than having a tape drive on each dc
> or using some form of 3rd party software there is no way to do a
> Disaster recovery backup of windows server 2003.
>
> No means of using a external HDD or usb stick instead...?
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello Ricus,
>>
>> You can do backup/restore with the builtin tools, no problem. A NOT
>> supproted way of backup DCs is taking an image or snapshot, this
>> results in USN rollback.
>>
>> See the links for more information:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...72(WS.10).aspx
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/263532
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216993
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316790
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875495
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...27(WS.10).aspx
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> I have a question about setting up a ad/dc backup so I will be able
>>> to restore my dc's and ad from Complete failure.
>>>
>>> Please note I want to only use the built in tools available from MS
>>> with server 2003 and I will not be allowed to buy a 3rd party tape
>>> backup solution/agent that will allow me to do this.
>>>
>>> Firstly the ASR wizard creates stiffies after I connect a USB stiffy
>>> drive to my server. Then I save a full backup as a file (including
>>> the system state) to external HDD.
>>>
>>> Should this be sufficient to allow me to resore my server to other
>>> hardware incase a tank drives over my server cabinet?
>>>
>>> Would I have to use the exact same hardware for the restore?
>>>
>>> If this is true is there a way for me to get this setup so I can
>>> install on to diffrent hardware?
>>>
>>> Would a system image through something like ghost be a option?
>>>
>>> But once again since I am running raid I have tried using ghost with
>>> raid drives and the result was not very Encouraging.
>>>
>>> This is why I like the image based backup coming to windows finnaly
>>> in vista and server 2008.
>>>
>>> Any info or helpfull advice appreciated.
>>>