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Jeff Gaines
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      01-13-2011

I have just installed Win7 x64, I don't like the looks of it and the way
so many things are hidden from users but I am keen to try it as drivers
for XP Pro x64 are a bit thin on the ground.

I have a problem installing a couple of programs. One is Net Objects
Fusion 10 which from all accounts has a problem with Win7 so I may have to
live without it.
The other is an older version of OmniPage Pro. It installed fine yesterday
but I un-installed it as I thought I would get a newer version with my new
scanner. I didn't so I decided to re-install the old version - except
today it won't install. I have tried several times including compatibility
mode and running as administrator but it keeps saying it was interrupted
before installation was complete. I can't find an entry on the event viewer.
So does Win7 not install on Thursdays or is today a MSFT religious holiday?
It's one of the things about Win7 that really, really annoys me -
something will work fine one day and not the next, and there are no clues
as to why.
UAC is turned off completely as it is just an another annoyance.

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Carlos
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      01-13-2011
On Jan 13, 10:23*am, "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_new...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I have just installed Win7 x64, I don't like the looks of it and the way
> so many things are hidden from users but I am keen to try it as drivers
> for XP Pro x64 are a bit thin on the ground.
>
> I have a problem installing a couple of programs. One is Net Objects
> Fusion 10 which from all accounts has a problem with Win7 so I may have to
> live without it.
> The other is an older version of OmniPage Pro. It installed fine yesterday
> but I un-installed it as I thought I would get a newer version with my new
> scanner. I didn't so I decided to re-install the old version - except
> today it won't install. I have tried several times including compatibility
> mode and running as administrator but it keeps saying it was interrupted
> before installation was complete. I can't find an entry on the event viewer.
> So does Win7 not install on Thursdays or is today a MSFT religious holiday?
> It's one of the things about Win7 that really, really annoys me -
> something will work fine one day and not the next, and there are no clues
> as to why.
> UAC is turned off completely as it is just an another annoyance.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
> This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it


Jeff,
The only way I can think of getting your Omnipage installed again is
by using system restore to the day before yesterday.
Leftovers from the uninstallation may be preventing the new
installation.
Maybe cleaning the TEMP directory (Winkey + R, %TEMP%, ENTER) can fix
it.
Carlos
 
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Jeff Gaines
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      01-13-2011
On 13/01/2011 in message
<d726a82a-ea63-40d1-8e36-> Carlos
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>The only way I can think of getting your Omnipage installed again is
>by using system restore to the day before yesterday.
>Leftovers from the uninstallation may be preventing the new
>installation.
>Maybe cleaning the TEMP directory (Winkey + R, %TEMP%, ENTER) can fix
>it.


Thanks, Carlos:-)
I spent 3 hours this morning setting up and installing a new Canon MG6150
so I want to avoid system restore.
What I did was install the app on another machine then copy it over. It
runs but it can't find the scanner:-(
I can feel a restore of my XP x64 image coming on, I've never been able to
live with Win7 more than 48 hours.

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      01-13-2011
On Jan 13, 12:50*pm, "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_new...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/01/2011 in message
> <d726a82a-ea63-40d1-8e36-f3862c350...@u3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com> Carlos
> wrote:
>
> >The only way I can think of getting your Omnipage installed again is
> >by using system restore to the day before yesterday.
> >Leftovers from the uninstallation may be preventing the new
> >installation.
> >Maybe cleaning the TEMP directory (Winkey + R, %TEMP%, ENTER) can fix
> >it.

>
> Thanks, Carlos:-)
> I spent 3 hours this morning setting up and installing a new Canon MG6150
> so I want to avoid system restore.
> What I did was install the app on another machine then copy it over. It
> runs but it can't find the scanner:-(
> I can feel a restore of my XP x64 image coming on, I've never been able to
> live with Win7 more than 48 hours.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
> If you ever find something you like buy a lifetime supply because they
> will stop making it


Jeff,
How about copying the registry entries of Omnipage in the other PC
also?
Also take into account that if you have Windows 7 Ultimate you can
always use "XP mode" for legacy applications!

Carlos
 
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Jeff Gaines
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      01-13-2011
On 13/01/2011 in message
<d6e65504-2194-4480-b1a1-> Carlos
wrote:

>How about copying the registry entries of Omnipage in the other PC
>also?
>Also take into account that if you have Windows 7 Ultimate you can
>always use "XP mode" for legacy applications!


I've put XP x64 back on, the Canon works fine with it and I've been able
to recover my 2 websites that became corrupted.
I don't know why but I just cannot get on with Win7, I really ought to
stop trying!

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wilby
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      01-13-2011
On 1/13/2011 6:23 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> I have just installed Win7 x64, I don't like the looks of it and the way
> so many things are hidden from users but I am keen to try it as drivers
> for XP Pro x64 are a bit thin on the ground.
>
> I have a problem installing a couple of programs. One is Net Objects
> Fusion 10 which from all accounts has a problem with Win7 so I may have
> to live without it.
> The other is an older version of OmniPage Pro. It installed fine
> yesterday but I un-installed it as I thought I would get a newer version
> with my new scanner. I didn't so I decided to re-install the old version
> - except today it won't install. I have tried several times including
> compatibility mode and running as administrator but it keeps saying it
> was interrupted before installation was complete. I can't find an entry
> on the event viewer.
> So does Win7 not install on Thursdays or is today a MSFT religious holiday?
> It's one of the things about Win7 that really, really annoys me -
> something will work fine one day and not the next, and there are no
> clues as to why.
> UAC is turned off completely as it is just an another annoyance.
>


About a year ago I had a similar problem with a new computer that had
Win 7/64 on it. I couldn't get my old (from a XP machine) Omnipage SE
2.0 to install and work on win 7/64.

I don't recall the details but I finally made it load and work just fine.

As I dimly recall, there are no Win 64 drivers for my Canon scanner so I
had to load some old Canon/Omnipage bundle-ware software and some new
versions of some of the components that I downloaded.

I guess I'm simply saying that there is a way to do this, keep trying.
If I remember more later I'll post it here.

Wilby
 
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Charlie Russel-MVP
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      01-13-2011
Actually, you really ought to spend the time to get there. Way too many
things aren't supported at all on XP x64, and that won't improve going
forward. Yes, the UI takes some getting used to, things are in different
places and have different requirements. But honestly, once you get past that
initial learning curve (and I'm not trying to minimize it at all), you'll
find Win7 is a more productive place to work. One thing that helped me get
past the "where did they put it" issues was to use the command line for
several things that are now in a different spot. For example, the Network
Connections dialog that lets you change the settings for a NIC. Several
mouse clicks deeper than it should be, but "ncpa.cpl" at the command line
works in every modern version of Windows to get to that exact same screen.

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"Jeff Gaines" <> wrote in message
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> On 13/01/2011 in message
> <d6e65504-2194-4480-b1a1-> Carlos
> wrote:
>
>>How about copying the registry entries of Omnipage in the other PC
>>also?
>>Also take into account that if you have Windows 7 Ultimate you can
>>always use "XP mode" for legacy applications!

>
> I've put XP x64 back on, the Canon works fine with it and I've been able
> to recover my 2 websites that became corrupted.
> I don't know why but I just cannot get on with Win7, I really ought to
> stop trying!
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
> If you ever find something you like buy a lifetime supply because they
> will stop making it


 
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      01-13-2011
On 13 ene, 15:44, "Charlie Russel-MVP"
<char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
> Actually, you really ought to spend the time to get there. Way too many
> things aren't supported at all on XP x64, and that won't improve going
> forward. Yes, the UI takes some getting used to, things are in different
> places and have different requirements. But honestly, once you get past that
> initial learning curve (and I'm not trying to minimize it at all), you'll
> find Win7 is a more productive place to work. One thing that helped me get
> past the "where did they put it" issues was to use the command line for
> several things that are now in a different spot. For example, the Network
> Connections dialog that lets you change the settings for a NIC. Several
> mouse clicks deeper than it should be, but "ncpa.cpl" at the command line
> works in every modern version of Windows to get to that exact same screen.
>
> --
> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/blogs/Russel
>
> "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_new...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:...
>
>
>
> > On 13/01/2011 in message
> > <d6e65504-2194-4480-b1a1-5c05b29a9...@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> Carlos
> > wrote:

>
> >>How about copying the registry entries of Omnipage in the other PC
> >>also?
> >>Also take into account that if you have Windows 7 Ultimate you can
> >>always use "XP mode" for legacy applications!

>
> > I've put XP x64 back on, the Canon works fine with it and I've been able
> > to recover my 2 websites that became corrupted.
> > I don't know why but I just cannot get on with Win7, I really ought to
> > stop trying!

>
> > --
> > Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
> > If you ever find something you like buy a lifetime supply because they
> > will stop making it- Ocultar texto de la cita -

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Hi Charlie,
Maybe it was easier for us because our path was XP x64, Vista x64, Win
7 x64.
Jumping from XP x64 to Win 7 x64 is sort of a "religious" experience.

I do like Windows 7, don't want to go back, though XP x64 will be like
my first girlfriend.
Carlos
 
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      01-13-2011
On 13/01/2011 in message <ignh7a$d2q$> Charlie
Russel-MVP wrote:

>Actually, you really ought to spend the time to get there. Way too many
>things aren't supported at all on XP x64, and that won't improve going
>forward. Yes, the UI takes some getting used to, things are in different
>places and have different requirements. But honestly, once you get past
>that initial learning curve (and I'm not trying to minimize it at all),
>you'll find Win7 is a more productive place to work. One thing that helped
>me get past the "where did they put it" issues was to use the command line
>for several things that are now in a different spot. For example, the
>Network Connections dialog that lets you change the settings for a NIC.
>Several mouse clicks deeper than it should be, but "ncpa.cpl" at the
>command line works in every modern version of Windows to get to that exact
>same screen.


I put my thoughts together on my website a while back:
http://www.jgaines.me.uk/html/windows_7.html

XP x64 does everything I want it to (at the moment). I don't upgrade for
the sake of it - I still use Office 97 because no later version does
anything more or better. I did upgrade to Access 2007 as it had a feature
that Access 97 didn't but Word and Excel still only produce letters and
spreadsheets (as did my BBC Micro in 1982 or thereabouts).
I just can't see any advantages, every MSFT OS gets bigger and slower,
W2K flies on modern equipment but Win7 just soaks up the cycles.

At the end of the day it's an OS and I use my machine for running
applications, I don't even want to be aware of the OS.

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wilby
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      01-14-2011
On 1/13/2011 10:53 AM, wilby wrote:
> On 1/13/2011 6:23 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>> I have just installed Win7 x64, I don't like the looks of it and the way
>> so many things are hidden from users but I am keen to try it as drivers
>> for XP Pro x64 are a bit thin on the ground.
>>
>> I have a problem installing a couple of programs. One is Net Objects
>> Fusion 10 which from all accounts has a problem with Win7 so I may have
>> to live without it.
>> The other is an older version of OmniPage Pro. It installed fine
>> yesterday but I un-installed it as I thought I would get a newer version
>> with my new scanner. I didn't so I decided to re-install the old version
>> - except today it won't install. I have tried several times including
>> compatibility mode and running as administrator but it keeps saying it
>> was interrupted before installation was complete. I can't find an entry
>> on the event viewer.
>> So does Win7 not install on Thursdays or is today a MSFT religious
>> holiday?
>> It's one of the things about Win7 that really, really annoys me -
>> something will work fine one day and not the next, and there are no
>> clues as to why.
>> UAC is turned off completely as it is just an another annoyance.
>>

>
> About a year ago I had a similar problem with a new computer that had
> Win 7/64 on it. I couldn't get my old (from a XP machine) Omnipage SE
> 2.0 to install and work on win 7/64.
>
> I don't recall the details but I finally made it load and work just fine.
>
> As I dimly recall, there are no Win 64 drivers for my Canon scanner so I
> had to load some old Canon/Omnipage bundle-ware software and some new
> versions of some of the components that I downloaded.
>
> I guess I'm simply saying that there is a way to do this, keep trying.
> If I remember more later I'll post it here.
>
> Wilby


I found some info on this.

I somehow installed the new Canoscan software that came with my new (2
years ago) scanner, but installed the older Omnipage software. As I
recall, it wasn't compatible with win-7.

In the end I have a happy system.

Wilby



 
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