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franklardino@gmail.com
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      04-26-2009
I have an application that runs fine on Vista Home (32-bit) but does
not run on Vista 64. I looked at work arounds with CENT OS, Wine or
some Linux workaround. This assumed the client did not have an old
copy of XP to run on VM Ware or MSFT VM.

Now MSFT is coming out with Windows 7 which will have XP Empulation
built in on the higher end version (more for corporate use).

Nothing has been said about the lower end consumer versions of Windows
7 but it appears they supposedly will not have this XP SP3 built in.
My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
the same compatibility as say Vista Home?

Will MSFT try to make these lower end consumer versions of Windows 7
more compatible with old software like Vista Home?

Thanks for any help.
 
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Chad Harris
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      04-26-2009


<> wrote in message
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> I have an application that runs fine on Vista Home (32-bit) but does
> not run on Vista 64. I looked at work arounds with CENT OS, Wine or
> some Linux workaround. This assumed the client did not have an old
> copy of XP to run on VM Ware or MSFT VM.
>
> Now MSFT is coming out with Windows 7 which will have XP Empulation
> built in on the higher end version (more for corporate use).
>
> Nothing has been said about the lower end consumer versions of Windows
> 7 but it appears they supposedly will not have this XP SP3 built in.
> My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
> the same compatibility as say Vista Home?
>
> Will MSFT try to make these lower end consumer versions of Windows 7
> more compatible with old software like Vista Home?
>
> Thanks for any help.


Hi Frank--

Nope, the lower ends won't have XPM--only 3 higher ends.

"My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
the same compatibility as say Vista Home?"

XPM will be available on 3 higher end SKUs only: Pro, Enterprise, and
Ultimate.

Follow Raphael's analyses of Windows XPM here:

http://www.withinwindows.com/

and screenshots and more info here:

http://blogs.technet.com/ieitpro/arc...s-xp-mode.aspx

http://winsupersite.com and
http://community.winsupersite.com/bl...l/default.aspx

Best,

CH





 
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Richard Urban
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      04-26-2009
You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always been.

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Windows Desktop Experience



<> wrote in message
news:e628732a-8913-4e21-8e00-...
> I have an application that runs fine on Vista Home (32-bit) but does
> not run on Vista 64. I looked at work arounds with CENT OS, Wine or
> some Linux workaround. This assumed the client did not have an old
> copy of XP to run on VM Ware or MSFT VM.
>
> Now MSFT is coming out with Windows 7 which will have XP Empulation
> built in on the higher end version (more for corporate use).
>
> Nothing has been said about the lower end consumer versions of Windows
> 7 but it appears they supposedly will not have this XP SP3 built in.
> My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
> the same compatibility as say Vista Home?
>
> Will MSFT try to make these lower end consumer versions of Windows 7
> more compatible with old software like Vista Home?
>
> Thanks for any help.


 
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Canuck57
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      04-26-2009

"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
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> You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always been.


Or use a VM that can work on other platforms including Linux and Macs, but
works fine on XP and Vista too.

http://www.virtualbox.org/

On Vista, programs often actually run faster inside the VM than in Vista.
Especially large file copies and large file network transfers.


 
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      04-26-2009


"Canuck57" <> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:e$...
>
>> You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always been.

>
> Or use a VM that can work on other platforms including Linux and Macs, but
> works fine on XP and Vista too.
>
> http://www.virtualbox.org/
>
> On Vista, programs often actually run faster inside the VM than in Vista.
> Especially large file copies and large file network transfers.


Hi Canuck 57--

True, but when you use a VM you have to deal out your initial RAM to each
VM, which could slow down what is being used outside the VM.

CH


 
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Daddy Tadpole
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      04-26-2009

"Richard Urban" <> a écrit dans le message
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> You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always been.


Yes, it's always been a scam.

Some people buy software with the intention of using it.

They don't see why they should have to buy a new version of each application
every time M$ decides to launch a new version of their OS.

Sometimes, users can't buy a new version of the software they're using. A
common example is drivers and control software for synthesisers and other
music hardware. These devices have a usable lifetime of 10 or 20 years, and
obviously the manufacturers (if they still exist) don't have the resources
to react to every quirk of every "new" M$ OS.

Regards


>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:e628732a-8913-4e21-8e00-...
>> I have an application that runs fine on Vista Home (32-bit) but does
>> not run on Vista 64. I looked at work arounds with CENT OS, Wine or
>> some Linux workaround. This assumed the client did not have an old
>> copy of XP to run on VM Ware or MSFT VM.
>>
>> Now MSFT is coming out with Windows 7 which will have XP Empulation
>> built in on the higher end version (more for corporate use).
>>
>> Nothing has been said about the lower end consumer versions of Windows
>> 7 but it appears they supposedly will not have this XP SP3 built in.
>> My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
>> the same compatibility as say Vista Home?
>>
>> Will MSFT try to make these lower end consumer versions of Windows 7
>> more compatible with old software like Vista Home?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.

>


 
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Chad Harris
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      04-27-2009
DT--

I haven't seen any peripherals I use that aren't ready to roll when Win 7
finishes its setup on a multicore box. If you install Win 7 on an older P4,
and have the drivers for the original Nic card and 8 year old sound card on
a data drive, they're ready to roll with a couple mouse clicks.

There are only two of a lot of apps I can't use yet on Win7--One Care that
MSFT is morphing into another AV--free Avira subs perfectly, and Raxco
Perfect Disk.

CH

"Daddy Tadpole" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Urban" <> a écrit dans le
> message de news:e$...
>> You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always been.

>
> Yes, it's always been a scam.
>
> Some people buy software with the intention of using it.
>
> They don't see why they should have to buy a new version of each
> application every time M$ decides to launch a new version of their OS.
>
> Sometimes, users can't buy a new version of the software they're using. A
> common example is drivers and control software for synthesisers and other
> music hardware. These devices have a usable lifetime of 10 or 20 years,
> and obviously the manufacturers (if they still exist) don't have the
> resources to react to every quirk of every "new" M$ OS.
>
> Regards



 
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      04-27-2009
On Apr 26, 4:45*pm, "Daddy Tadpole" <nob...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message
> denews:e$...
>
> > You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always been.

>
> Yes, it's always been a scam.
>
> Some people buy software with the intention of using it.
>
> They don't see why they should have to buy a new version of each application
> every time M$ decides to launch a new version of their OS.
>
> Sometimes, users can't buy a new version of the software they're using. A
> common example is drivers and control software for synthesisers and other
> music hardware. These devices have a usable lifetime of 10 or 20 years, and
> obviously the manufacturers (if they still exist) don't have the resources
> to react to every quirk of every "new" M$ OS.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> > --

>
> > Richard Urban
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows Desktop Experience

>
> > <franklard...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:e628732a-8913-4e21-8e00-....
> >> I have an application that runs fine on Vista Home (32-bit) but does
> >> not run on Vista 64. *I looked at work arounds with CENT OS, Wine or
> >> some Linux workaround. *This assumed the client did not have an old
> >> copy of XP to run on VM Ware or MSFT VM.

>
> >> Now MSFT is coming out with Windows 7 which will have XP Empulation
> >> built in on the higher end version (more for corporate use).

>
> >> Nothing has been said about the lower end consumer versions of Windows
> >> 7 but it appears they supposedly will not have this XP SP3 built in.
> >> My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
> >> the same compatibility as say Vista Home?

>
> >> Will MSFT try to make these lower end consumer versions of Windows 7
> >> more compatible with old software like Vista Home?

>
> >> Thanks for any help.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Anyone know if the lower end consumer versions of Winodws 7 will be 32-
bit like Vista Home and compatible with old software like Vista Home?

Thanks.
 
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      04-27-2009
PerfectDisk 10 works fine with Windows 7 for me!

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"Chad Harris" <Win7@yes_she_can.net> wrote in message
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> DT--
>
> I haven't seen any peripherals I use that aren't ready to roll when Win 7
> finishes its setup on a multicore box. If you install Win 7 on an older
> P4, and have the drivers for the original Nic card and 8 year old sound
> card on a data drive, they're ready to roll with a couple mouse clicks.
>
> There are only two of a lot of apps I can't use yet on Win7--One Care that
> MSFT is morphing into another AV--free Avira subs perfectly, and Raxco
> Perfect Disk.
>
> CH
>
> "Daddy Tadpole" <> wrote in message
> news:7598762D-E4BD-4BA8-A8D1-...
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <> a écrit dans le
>> message de news:e$...
>>> You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always
>>> been.

>>
>> Yes, it's always been a scam.
>>
>> Some people buy software with the intention of using it.
>>
>> They don't see why they should have to buy a new version of each
>> application every time M$ decides to launch a new version of their OS.
>>
>> Sometimes, users can't buy a new version of the software they're using. A
>> common example is drivers and control software for synthesisers and other
>> music hardware. These devices have a usable lifetime of 10 or 20 years,
>> and obviously the manufacturers (if they still exist) don't have the
>> resources to react to every quirk of every "new" M$ OS.
>>
>> Regards

>
>

 
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Richard Urban
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      04-27-2009
32 bit or 64 bit Windows 7 - I have not yet found any of the programs that I
typically load on my computers to have any problems

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience



<> wrote in message
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> On Apr 26, 4:45 pm, "Daddy Tadpole" <nob...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVET...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le
>> message
>> denews:e$...
>>
>> > You get more with the higher end versions! That's how it has always
>> > been.

>>
>> Yes, it's always been a scam.
>>
>> Some people buy software with the intention of using it.
>>
>> They don't see why they should have to buy a new version of each
>> application
>> every time M$ decides to launch a new version of their OS.
>>
>> Sometimes, users can't buy a new version of the software they're using. A
>> common example is drivers and control software for synthesisers and other
>> music hardware. These devices have a usable lifetime of 10 or 20 years,
>> and
>> obviously the manufacturers (if they still exist) don't have the
>> resources
>> to react to every quirk of every "new" M$ OS.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > --

>>
>> > Richard Urban
>> > Microsoft MVP
>> > Windows Desktop Experience

>>
>> > <franklard...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e628732a-8913-4e21-8e00-...
>> >> I have an application that runs fine on Vista Home (32-bit) but does
>> >> not run on Vista 64. I looked at work arounds with CENT OS, Wine or
>> >> some Linux workaround. This assumed the client did not have an old
>> >> copy of XP to run on VM Ware or MSFT VM.

>>
>> >> Now MSFT is coming out with Windows 7 which will have XP Empulation
>> >> built in on the higher end version (more for corporate use).

>>
>> >> Nothing has been said about the lower end consumer versions of Windows
>> >> 7 but it appears they supposedly will not have this XP SP3 built in.
>> >> My question is will the low end consumer versions of Windows 7 have
>> >> the same compatibility as say Vista Home?

>>
>> >> Will MSFT try to make these lower end consumer versions of Windows 7
>> >> more compatible with old software like Vista Home?

>>
>> >> Thanks for any help.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Anyone know if the lower end consumer versions of Winodws 7 will be 32-
> bit like Vista Home and compatible with old software like Vista Home?
>
> Thanks.


 
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