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Charles M. Shepard
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      11-15-2009

It is absolutely a Windows 7 bug. I have three computers, all with AMD
processors, that run Vista 32 and 64 bit with no problems.
Upon doing a clean install of Windows 7 RC1, the problem of not being able
to do a full format of a floppy appears. I can change the floppy drive and
cable with no change in the result. As someone said earlier, I can do a
quick format, and it appears to work, but the floppy is corrupted. I can
boot any of these machines from a Windows 98 floppy and run the format B:
/F:1.44 command on any of the floppies that failed on Windows 7.

It is not a hardware problem. It is a Microsoft bug. I don't think it is
rare.

Just to see if the problem was caused by an AMD bug, I built an Intel system
with an i7 820 and an MSI P55 GD65 motherboard. It worked once, or appeared
to work, and so I thought I had discovered evidence for the problem
belonging to AMD. A few days later I tried it again and it did not work. I
proceeded to uninstall all the drivers and apps that I had installed in the
meantime, and that did not help. So, I wiped the drive and installed Windows
7 64bit again. Again the floppy will not format. It will appear to do a
quick format, but it does not do it correctly, and the floppy is corrupted.

I am tired of testing. So, whether anyone has reported the bug to Microsoft
does not mean a thing to me. Maybe that is because it is exceedingly
difficult to report anything to Microsoft? Maybe no one at Microsoft has a
floppy drive on their computers? Maybe they all threw away all of their
floppies? Maybe they think we are all crazy?

I know that most people don't think much of people that still use floppies,
but I find it very hard to write the contents of the flash drive on the
outside of the thing. I own several, and they are nice, they hold a lot of
data, they fit into my pocket, but where do I put the label on them? Yes, I
expect some wise-guy crack about that, but what I really would like is for
Microsoft to see if they can replicate this problem and fix it. It is
obviously a regression from Vista, and makes Microsoft look really
incompetent. Unless Microsoft is trying to help with the killing of the
floppy. A floppy is very useful when working on computers running Windows XP
or earlier. It looks like XP will be with us for a long time.

"Bobby Johnson" <> wrote in message
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> Since your problem appears to be rather rare I would not expect Microsoft
> to "fix" something that really doesn't seems to be broken. I frequent the
> Win 7 forum over at TechNet and I have never seen a post about floppy
> formatting problems.
>
> I think your problem is something with your hardware or a problem with one
> or more system files.
>
>
> LDJ wrote:
>>
>> What you did, is what I can't do, or rather what can't be done with my
>> system, and the Windows 7 64bit OS / Gigabyte MB with AMD 790GX chipset
>> combination.
>>
>> I can't format a floppy disk, without getting errors, and thus formatting
>> with the option of making a boot diskette can't be done.
>>
>> Quick formatting a floppy disk can be done, however the formatting
>> process ends up with bad disks, although the process shows a Finished
>> message.
>>
>> I have a second PC, that has a Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 motherboard with an
>> AMD 790X + SB600 Chipset, and a Phenom 9600 CPU. It is running the Vista
>> Home Premium 64bit version. It has been running without issues for almost
>> 2 years, and I have never seen any problems regarding the TLB (Transition
>> Lookaside Buffer) errata. :-) Formatting a floppy disk with the second PC
>> doesn't give any problems.
>>
>> Bye the way, I am one of the persons that have been pleased with Windows
>> Vista. People in this newsgroup has provided a lot of solutions for
>> setting up the OS.
>>
>> I just read that there will be a Windows 7 Service Pack 1 in 2010. I hope
>> that it will bring a fix for the issue.
>>
>> Link: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16243/1/
>>
>> I wonder how the C: drive can be read, in a DOS session, booted from a
>> floppy drive. I guess it's a ramdrive that has been made when the system
>> booted with a Windows start diskette?
>>
>> I haven't seen a "combination" drive, with both 5.25" and 3.5" :-)
>> before, but I have a 5.25" 360kb/1.2mb drive combination on the loft.
>> Could come handy if I ever want to restore the PCTools backups I did way
>> back, from the 5.25" diskettes that is also on the loft. ROTFL
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> LDJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

 
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Tom Lake
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      11-15-2009

"Charles M. Shepard" <charles-> wrote in message
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> It is absolutely a Windows 7 bug. I have three computers, all with AMD
> processors, that run Vista 32 and 64 bit with no problems.
> Upon doing a clean install of Windows 7 RC1, the problem of not being able
> to do a full format of a floppy appears. I can change the floppy drive and
> cable with no change in the result. As someone said earlier, I can do a
> quick format, and it appears to work, but the floppy is corrupted. I can
> boot any of these machines from a Windows 98 floppy and run the format B:
> /F:1.44 command on any of the floppies that failed on Windows 7.
>
> It is not a hardware problem. It is a Microsoft bug. I don't think it is
> rare.


No, it's not rare at all. I really think that MS doesn't care enough about
it
to fix it, though. The percentage of users still using floppies (I'm one)
is shrinking every day and it's just not worth it to MS to spend time and
resources on it. Most new PCs today don't even have a floppy interface nor
support for more than one floppy in BIOS.

Tom Lake

 
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CMShepard
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      11-19-2009

Thanks for your response. You are correct that some new computers may have
done away with the floppy, but all computers are not new.

Also, I have not seen a motherboard that does not have a floppy port, and I
build several computers a year. Recently I have purchased a Gigabyte
P55M-UD2 and an MSI P55-GD65 and a Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P and a Biostar
A785GE, and they all have a floppy controller. Of course, that does not
prove anything, really, but two of those are new designs, to support the new
Intel 1156 pin processors.

So, while vendors like Dell may have eliminated the floppy from their cases,
and maybe have even removed the controller chip from their motherboards, I
think it is not dead, and won't be until all the old computers and XP are
buried in a landfill.

I just resigned myself to using an external floppy drive. That works on the
machines I have or service, so far.

"Tom Lake" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Charles M. Shepard" <charles-> wrote in message
> news:05362AA8-691B-45B7-B922-...
>> It is absolutely a Windows 7 bug. I have three computers, all with AMD
>> processors, that run Vista 32 and 64 bit with no problems.
>> Upon doing a clean install of Windows 7 RC1, the problem of not being
>> able to do a full format of a floppy appears. I can change the floppy
>> drive and cable with no change in the result. As someone said earlier, I
>> can do a quick format, and it appears to work, but the floppy is
>> corrupted. I can boot any of these machines from a Windows 98 floppy and
>> run the format B: /F:1.44 command on any of the floppies that failed on
>> Windows 7.
>>
>> It is not a hardware problem. It is a Microsoft bug. I don't think it is
>> rare.

>
> No, it's not rare at all. I really think that MS doesn't care enough
> about it
> to fix it, though. The percentage of users still using floppies (I'm one)
> is shrinking every day and it's just not worth it to MS to spend time and
> resources on it. Most new PCs today don't even have a floppy interface
> nor
> support for more than one floppy in BIOS.
>
> Tom Lake


 
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Bobby Johnson
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      05-11-2010
You need to go to the Intel website and download the Windows 7 64-bit
drivers and software for your motherboard. Also, update your BIOS to
the latest version.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...p+Board+DG31PR

If you still have problems after doing that then you need to contact
Intel Tech Support for assistance. You do not have a Windows 7 problem.
You have to ensure you have all the correct updates for your motherboard.

In particular you need the Chipset: Intel® Chipset Device Software for
Intel® Desktop Boards.

The Intel® Chipset Device Software installs the Windows* INF files. The
INF files inform the operating system how to properly configure the
chipset for specific functionality, such as USB and core PCI.


On 2010-05-11 05:23, azizhazari wrote:
> hey,,i had install window 7home premium on my pc and i am getting the
> problem of driver due to non capability i think , i had install latest
> driver for board dg31pr....any antivirus i instsll it block...so plz
> help me out to fix this......thanks!!
>
>

 
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Bobby Johnson
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      05-11-2010
http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...r-overview.htm

On 2010-05-11 12:28, Bobby Johnson wrote:
> You need to go to the Intel website and download the Windows 7 64-bit
> drivers and software for your motherboard. Also, update your BIOS to the
> latest version.
>
> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...p+Board+DG31PR
>
>
> If you still have problems after doing that then you need to contact
> Intel Tech Support for assistance. You do not have a Windows 7 problem.
> You have to ensure you have all the correct updates for your motherboard.
>
> In particular you need the Chipset: Intel® Chipset Device Software for
> Intel® Desktop Boards.
>
> The Intel® Chipset Device Software installs the Windows* INF files. The
> INF files inform the operating system how to properly configure the
> chipset for specific functionality, such as USB and core PCI.
>
>
> On 2010-05-11 05:23, azizhazari wrote:
>> hey,,i had install window 7home premium on my pc and i am getting the
>> problem of driver due to non capability i think , i had install latest
>> driver for board dg31pr....any antivirus i instsll it block...so plz
>> help me out to fix this......thanks!!
>>
>>

 
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