Windows 7 My user folder is invisible

Hello all,

Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't seem
to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone in
here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion group.

I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only public and
default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is not
visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down arrow). I
have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders, files
and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system files". My
user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my "outlook.pst"
file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.

If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this mish-mash of
flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be most
appreciative!

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:05:01 -0700, Kevryl
<> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't seem
> to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone in
> here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion group.


Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine. Go to
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ult.aspx?tab=2

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

No, there are no users listed there, thanks Jeff.

"Jeffrey Kaplan" wrote:

> Previously on microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management, Kevryl
> said:
>
> > I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
> > account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only public and
> > default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
> > mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is not
> > visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down arrow). I
> > have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders, files
> > and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system files". My
> > user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my "outlook.pst"
> > file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.
> >
> > If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this mish-mash of
> > flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be most
> > appreciative!
>
> Do you see your User listed separately as a top-level item in Windows
> Explorer? It should be between Libraries and Computer.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> Double ROT13 encoded for your protection
>
> Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #92.
> If I ever talk to the hero on the phone, I will not taunt him. Instead
> I will say this his dogged perseverance has given me new insight on
> the futility of my evil ways and that if he leaves me alone for a few
> months of quiet contemplation I will likely return to the path of
> righteousness. (Heroes are incredibly gullible in this regard.)
> .
>

Thank you Ken. Maybe it gives them better ability to moderate the oposts?

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:05:01 -0700, Kevryl
> <> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't seem
> > to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone in
> > here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion group.
>
>
> Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
> Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
> forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
> there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
> not mine. Go to
> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ult.aspx?tab=2
>
> However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
> alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
> here's one free news server that does: aioe.org
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> .
>

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:36:01 -0700, Kevryl
<> wrote:

> Thank you Ken.


You're welcome.



> Maybe it gives them better ability to moderate the oposts?


I think that's at least in part their view. However it wasn't the only
solution to that problem, nor even the best one, as I'm concerned.



> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:05:01 -0700, Kevryl
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't seem
> > > to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone in
> > > here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion group.
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
> > Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
> > forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
> > there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
> > not mine. Go to
> > http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ult.aspx?tab=2
> >
> > However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
> > alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
> > here's one free news server that does: aioe.org
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > .
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Hi, Kevryl.

As Ken explained, MS has decided that there will be NO Win7 newsgroups - and
I'm as disappointed as Ken about this. :>(

As to your C:\Users\Kevryl folder tree...

> immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only public
> and
> default,

Is this in Windows Explorer? What IS your username? Might it possibly
include "illegal" characters? It should not, of course, because Windows
should not let you create such a username in the first place, but strange
things happen sometimes.

In an elevated Command Prompt window, you should be able to use the Dir
command, held over from MS-DOS days when "folders" were Directories. (As
with any command here, just type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file listing the
switches and parameters available with this command.) Start with your
username:
Dir C:\kevryl /s/a

The /s and /a switches search all subfolders and list all files, even those
with Hidden, System or other attributes. If a file or folder named "kevryl"
is anywhere in Drive C: it should show up and you can read the full
pathname. (You could also search for "outlook.pst", of course.)

If that doesn't work, post back with details about what you did - step by
step - and what result you saw - verbatim; please don't paraphrase any error
message that might appear. Several other techniques are available to
fine-tune Dir searches.

I'm assuming of course that you are an Administrator and logged in as such.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Kevryl" <> wrote in message
news:115498FF-A629-43D2-925C-...
> Hello all,
>
> Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't
> seem
> to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone in
> here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion group.
>
> I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
> account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
> immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only public
> and
> default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
> mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is not
> visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down arrow). I
> have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders,
> files
> and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system files".
> My
> user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my
> "outlook.pst"
> file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.
>
> If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this mish-mash
> of
> flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be
> most
> appreciative!

Thanks, R.C. for the useful info. Yes, I well remember when "folders" were
"directories", and when you could read the whole "config.sys" file while
between taking sips of coffee! oh, and do you remember (fondly) those real,
hard-copy manuals, keyboard templates and quick-reference flip-cards that
came with software like Lotus 1-2-3 and Enable? And I wonder why mass-file
handling and filtering capabilities of programmes like Borland's X-tree were
never incorporated by Microsoft into their limited "Explorer" windows? Once
the extended filenames came into being it seemed to me that trying to find
anything, guessing characters that would be substututed and appended after
the first 6 (was it?) made using DOS directory commnds rather impractical.
However I'll keep your info as a reference and look back into it. Anyway,
back to the present:

I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
can't find how I did it now,. In the User tree where "default" was listed, I
think I right-clicked the default folder name. Whatever I did there was the
option to "move down one position" (or very similar wording). I did that and
all the folders, including my own magically appeared! Go figure! As I'm
looking for where I found that (its not under the right-click menu any
longer) the "search sub-directories" that I kept getting when my folder was
invisible is also not to be found. The nuances of Windows 7 are quite
puzzling to me at this early stage. :-|

Cheers, Kevryl.

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Kevryl.
>
> As Ken explained, MS has decided that there will be NO Win7 newsgroups - and
> I'm as disappointed as Ken about this. :>(
>
> As to your C:\Users\Kevryl folder tree...
>
> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only public
> > and
> > default,
>
> Is this in Windows Explorer? What IS your username? Might it possibly
> include "illegal" characters? It should not, of course, because Windows
> should not let you create such a username in the first place, but strange
> things happen sometimes.
>
> In an elevated Command Prompt window, you should be able to use the Dir
> command, held over from MS-DOS days when "folders" were Directories. (As
> with any command here, just type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file listing the
> switches and parameters available with this command.) Start with your
> username:
> Dir C:\kevryl /s/a
>
> The /s and /a switches search all subfolders and list all files, even those
> with Hidden, System or other attributes. If a file or folder named "kevryl"
> is anywhere in Drive C: it should show up and you can read the full
> pathname. (You could also search for "outlook.pst", of course.)
>
> If that doesn't work, post back with details about what you did - step by
> step - and what result you saw - verbatim; please don't paraphrase any error
> message that might appear. Several other techniques are available to
> fine-tune Dir searches.
>
> I'm assuming of course that you are an Administrator and logged in as such.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>
> "Kevryl" <> wrote in message
> news:115498FF-A629-43D2-925C-...
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't
> > seem
> > to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone in
> > here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion group.
> >
> > I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
> > account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only public
> > and
> > default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
> > mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is not
> > visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down arrow). I
> > have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders,
> > files
> > and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system files".
> > My
> > user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my
> > "outlook.pst"
> > file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.
> >
> > If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this mish-mash
> > of
> > flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be
> > most
> > appreciative!
>
> .
>

Hi, Kevryl.

Ah, memories! Some fun, some not. ;^}

Even in Win7, I often find that Dir /s in an elevated "DOS" window is still
much faster and more effective than pressing Start and typing in what I'm
looking for - but not always. Often, Search is so fast it's amazing; it
sometimes finds what I want before I can finish typing the search word.

But some things the GUI simply can't do. For example, the Dir /x command
will reveal the 8.3 Short File Name for any Long File Name. VERY handy for
when the LFN includes a space or other illegal character. Or when the LFN
is just too long to qualify as an SFN. Dir /x shows the SFNs in a column
before the LFNs, but only for each LFN that does not also qualify as an SFN.

> I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
> can't find how I did it now,.

I don't know how you did it either, but don't argue with success. ;<)

Like each other step up the learning curve, it will take a few days to get
comfy with Win7; after that, only a few users choose to go back to their
earlier system. I recall how angry and irritated my then-8-year-old son was
in 1978 when TRS-80's Level II BASIC replaced the simple, tiny 4 KB Level I
BASIC. ("What's a Syntax Error? Why can't it just say 'WHAT?' like it did
before?")

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Kevryl" <> wrote in message
news:A7D0D346-7ACF-453E-927A-...
> Thanks, R.C. for the useful info. Yes, I well remember when "folders" were
> "directories", and when you could read the whole "config.sys" file while
> between taking sips of coffee! oh, and do you remember (fondly) those
> real,
> hard-copy manuals, keyboard templates and quick-reference flip-cards that
> came with software like Lotus 1-2-3 and Enable? And I wonder why mass-file
> handling and filtering capabilities of programmes like Borland's X-tree
> were
> never incorporated by Microsoft into their limited "Explorer" windows?
> Once
> the extended filenames came into being it seemed to me that trying to find
> anything, guessing characters that would be substututed and appended after
> the first 6 (was it?) made using DOS directory commnds rather impractical.
> However I'll keep your info as a reference and look back into it. Anyway,
> back to the present:
>
> I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
> can't find how I did it now,. In the User tree where "default" was listed,
> I
> think I right-clicked the default folder name. Whatever I did there was
> the
> option to "move down one position" (or very similar wording). I did that
> and
> all the folders, including my own magically appeared! Go figure! As I'm
> looking for where I found that (its not under the right-click menu any
> longer) the "search sub-directories" that I kept getting when my folder
> was
> invisible is also not to be found. The nuances of Windows 7 are quite
> puzzling to me at this early stage. :-|
>
> Cheers, Kevryl.
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
>> Hi, Kevryl.
>>
>> As Ken explained, MS has decided that there will be NO Win7 newsgroups -
>> and
>> I'm as disappointed as Ken about this. :>(
>>
>> As to your C:\Users\Kevryl folder tree...
>>
>> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
>> > public
>> > and
>> > default,
>>
>> Is this in Windows Explorer? What IS your username? Might it possibly
>> include "illegal" characters? It should not, of course, because Windows
>> should not let you create such a username in the first place, but strange
>> things happen sometimes.
>>
>> In an elevated Command Prompt window, you should be able to use the Dir
>> command, held over from MS-DOS days when "folders" were Directories. (As
>> with any command here, just type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file listing
>> the
>> switches and parameters available with this command.) Start with your
>> username:
>> Dir C:\kevryl /s/a
>>
>> The /s and /a switches search all subfolders and list all files, even
>> those
>> with Hidden, System or other attributes. If a file or folder named
>> "kevryl"
>> is anywhere in Drive C: it should show up and you can read the full
>> pathname. (You could also search for "outlook.pst", of course.)
>>
>> If that doesn't work, post back with details about what you did - step by
>> step - and what result you saw - verbatim; please don't paraphrase any
>> error
>> message that might appear. Several other techniques are available to
>> fine-tune Dir searches.
>>
>> I'm assuming of course that you are an Administrator and logged in as
>> such.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Kevryl" <> wrote in message
>> news:115498FF-A629-43D2-925C-...
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't
>> > seem
>> > to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone
>> > in
>> > here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion
>> > group.
>> >
>> > I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
>> > account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
>> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
>> > public
>> > and
>> > default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
>> > mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is
>> > not
>> > visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down
>> > arrow). I
>> > have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders,
>> > files
>> > and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system
>> > files".
>> > My
>> > user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my
>> > "outlook.pst"
>> > file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.
>> >
>> > If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this
>> > mish-mash
>> > of
>> > flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be
>> > most
>> > appreciative!

Ah, "Dir /x" - THAT'S the secret! Thanks I shall note that one.

8 years old eh? Yes I too recall the frustrations of "syntax error", as if
the system new what one was doing but, like a teacher was bloody-mindedly
impressing a point! LOL. I guess now, at 40 odd he probably runs rings around
both of us?

Cheers, have a great day.
Kevryl
PS: I keep ticking "notify me of replies", but it never does. :-(

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Kevryl.
>
> Ah, memories! Some fun, some not. ;^}
>
> Even in Win7, I often find that Dir /s in an elevated "DOS" window is still
> much faster and more effective than pressing Start and typing in what I'm
> looking for - but not always. Often, Search is so fast it's amazing; it
> sometimes finds what I want before I can finish typing the search word.
>
> But some things the GUI simply can't do. For example, the Dir /x command
> will reveal the 8.3 Short File Name for any Long File Name. VERY handy for
> when the LFN includes a space or other illegal character. Or when the LFN
> is just too long to qualify as an SFN. Dir /x shows the SFNs in a column
> before the LFNs, but only for each LFN that does not also qualify as an SFN.
>
> > I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
> > can't find how I did it now,.
>
> I don't know how you did it either, but don't argue with success. ;<)
>
> Like each other step up the learning curve, it will take a few days to get
> comfy with Win7; after that, only a few users choose to go back to their
> earlier system. I recall how angry and irritated my then-8-year-old son was
> in 1978 when TRS-80's Level II BASIC replaced the simple, tiny 4 KB Level I
> BASIC. ("What's a Syntax Error? Why can't it just say 'WHAT?' like it did
> before?")
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>
> "Kevryl" <> wrote in message
> news:A7D0D346-7ACF-453E-927A-...
> > Thanks, R.C. for the useful info. Yes, I well remember when "folders" were
> > "directories", and when you could read the whole "config.sys" file while
> > between taking sips of coffee! oh, and do you remember (fondly) those
> > real,
> > hard-copy manuals, keyboard templates and quick-reference flip-cards that
> > came with software like Lotus 1-2-3 and Enable? And I wonder why mass-file
> > handling and filtering capabilities of programmes like Borland's X-tree
> > were
> > never incorporated by Microsoft into their limited "Explorer" windows?
> > Once
> > the extended filenames came into being it seemed to me that trying to find
> > anything, guessing characters that would be substututed and appended after
> > the first 6 (was it?) made using DOS directory commnds rather impractical.
> > However I'll keep your info as a reference and look back into it. Anyway,
> > back to the present:
> >
> > I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though I
> > can't find how I did it now,. In the User tree where "default" was listed,
> > I
> > think I right-clicked the default folder name. Whatever I did there was
> > the
> > option to "move down one position" (or very similar wording). I did that
> > and
> > all the folders, including my own magically appeared! Go figure! As I'm
> > looking for where I found that (its not under the right-click menu any
> > longer) the "search sub-directories" that I kept getting when my folder
> > was
> > invisible is also not to be found. The nuances of Windows 7 are quite
> > puzzling to me at this early stage. :-|
> >
> > Cheers, Kevryl.
> >
> > "R. C. White" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Kevryl.
> >>
> >> As Ken explained, MS has decided that there will be NO Win7 newsgroups -
> >> and
> >> I'm as disappointed as Ken about this. :>(
> >>
> >> As to your C:\Users\Kevryl folder tree...
> >>
> >> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
> >> > public
> >> > and
> >> > default,
> >>
> >> Is this in Windows Explorer? What IS your username? Might it possibly
> >> include "illegal" characters? It should not, of course, because Windows
> >> should not let you create such a username in the first place, but strange
> >> things happen sometimes.
> >>
> >> In an elevated Command Prompt window, you should be able to use the Dir
> >> command, held over from MS-DOS days when "folders" were Directories. (As
> >> with any command here, just type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file listing
> >> the
> >> switches and parameters available with this command.) Start with your
> >> username:
> >> Dir C:\kevryl /s/a
> >>
> >> The /s and /a switches search all subfolders and list all files, even
> >> those
> >> with Hidden, System or other attributes. If a file or folder named
> >> "kevryl"
> >> is anywhere in Drive C: it should show up and you can read the full
> >> pathname. (You could also search for "outlook.pst", of course.)
> >>
> >> If that doesn't work, post back with details about what you did - step by
> >> step - and what result you saw - verbatim; please don't paraphrase any
> >> error
> >> message that might appear. Several other techniques are available to
> >> fine-tune Dir searches.
> >>
> >> I'm assuming of course that you are an Administrator and logged in as
> >> such.
> >>
> >> RC
> >>
> >> "Kevryl" <> wrote in message
> >> news:115498FF-A629-43D2-925C-...
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it doesn't
> >> > seem
> >> > to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree. Someone
> >> > in
> >> > here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion
> >> > group.
> >> >
> >> > I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My user
> >> > account is there on both (libraries documents right click properties)
> >> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
> >> > public
> >> > and
> >> > default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an unintelligibnle
> >> > mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder is
> >> > not
> >> > visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down
> >> > arrow). I
> >> > have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden folders,
> >> > files
> >> > and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system
> >> > files".
> >> > My
> >> > user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my
> >> > "outlook.pst"
> >> > file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this
> >> > mish-mash
> >> > of
> >> > flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd be
> >> > most
> >> > appreciative!
>
> .
>

Hi, Kevryl.

Yes, my 40-year-old son is now a database programmer for the University of
Texas. I'm still better at solving PC problems, but he speaks languages
(like SQL and .NET and SharePoint) that I can't even read in MSDN Magazine.

> Ah, "Dir /x" - THAT'S the secret! Thanks I shall note that one.

One of my favorites, although it's not needed very often.

> PS: I keep ticking "notify me of replies", but it never does. :-(

I never see that option because I never use "Communities" or "discussion
groups" to read newsgroups. I've always used a newsreader, going back to
Outlook Express and earlier. Now I use Windows Live Mail; in case your PC
vendor did not bundle it with Win7, it is available free at
http://download.live.com, along with all the other Windows Live Essentials
(Live Messenger, Live Photo Gallery, etc.).

Just click here:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ile_management

That one click should fire up your default newsreader, connect you to the MS
public news server (which is free and does not require you to log on) and to
this newsgroup, where you can read all the same messages as in the
discussion group, but in a newsgroup format, rather than the web-based
browser interface. Try it and see if you like it better.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Kevryl" <> wrote in message
news:63D5282E-0280-40C0-A2D5-...
> Ah, "Dir /x" - THAT'S the secret! Thanks I shall note that one.
>
> 8 years old eh? Yes I too recall the frustrations of "syntax error", as if
> the system new what one was doing but, like a teacher was bloody-mindedly
> impressing a point! LOL. I guess now, at 40 odd he probably runs rings
> around
> both of us?
>
> Cheers, have a great day.
> Kevryl
> PS: I keep ticking "notify me of replies", but it never does. :-(
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
>> Hi, Kevryl.
>>
>> Ah, memories! Some fun, some not. ;^}
>>
>> Even in Win7, I often find that Dir /s in an elevated "DOS" window is
>> still
>> much faster and more effective than pressing Start and typing in what I'm
>> looking for - but not always. Often, Search is so fast it's amazing; it
>> sometimes finds what I want before I can finish typing the search word.
>>
>> But some things the GUI simply can't do. For example, the Dir /x command
>> will reveal the 8.3 Short File Name for any Long File Name. VERY handy
>> for
>> when the LFN includes a space or other illegal character. Or when the
>> LFN
>> is just too long to qualify as an SFN. Dir /x shows the SFNs in a column
>> before the LFNs, but only for each LFN that does not also qualify as an
>> SFN.
>>
>> > I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though
>> > I
>> > can't find how I did it now,.
>>
>> I don't know how you did it either, but don't argue with success. ;<)
>>
>> Like each other step up the learning curve, it will take a few days to
>> get
>> comfy with Win7; after that, only a few users choose to go back to their
>> earlier system. I recall how angry and irritated my then-8-year-old son
>> was
>> in 1978 when TRS-80's Level II BASIC replaced the simple, tiny 4 KB Level
>> I
>> BASIC. ("What's a Syntax Error? Why can't it just say 'WHAT?' like it
>> did
>> before?")
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Kevryl" <> wrote in message
>> news:A7D0D346-7ACF-453E-927A-...
>> > Thanks, R.C. for the useful info. Yes, I well remember when "folders"
>> > were
>> > "directories", and when you could read the whole "config.sys" file
>> > while
>> > between taking sips of coffee! oh, and do you remember (fondly) those
>> > real,
>> > hard-copy manuals, keyboard templates and quick-reference flip-cards
>> > that
>> > came with software like Lotus 1-2-3 and Enable? And I wonder why
>> > mass-file
>> > handling and filtering capabilities of programmes like Borland's X-tree
>> > were
>> > never incorporated by Microsoft into their limited "Explorer" windows?
>> > Once
>> > the extended filenames came into being it seemed to me that trying to
>> > find
>> > anything, guessing characters that would be substututed and appended
>> > after
>> > the first 6 (was it?) made using DOS directory commnds rather
>> > impractical.
>> > However I'll keep your info as a reference and look back into it.
>> > Anyway,
>> > back to the present:
>> >
>> > I stumbled on a "fix" for the problem of finding my user folder (though
>> > I
>> > can't find how I did it now,. In the User tree where "default" was
>> > listed,
>> > I
>> > think I right-clicked the default folder name. Whatever I did there was
>> > the
>> > option to "move down one position" (or very similar wording). I did
>> > that
>> > and
>> > all the folders, including my own magically appeared! Go figure! As I'm
>> > looking for where I found that (its not under the right-click menu any
>> > longer) the "search sub-directories" that I kept getting when my folder
>> > was
>> > invisible is also not to be found. The nuances of Windows 7 are quite
>> > puzzling to me at this early stage. :-|
>> >
>> > Cheers, Kevryl.
>> >
>> > "R. C. White" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Kevryl.
>> >>
>> >> As Ken explained, MS has decided that there will be NO Win7
>> >> newsgroups -
>> >> and
>> >> I'm as disappointed as Ken about this. :>(
>> >>
>> >> As to your C:\Users\Kevryl folder tree...
>> >>
>> >> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
>> >> > public
>> >> > and
>> >> > default,
>> >>
>> >> Is this in Windows Explorer? What IS your username? Might it
>> >> possibly
>> >> include "illegal" characters? It should not, of course, because
>> >> Windows
>> >> should not let you create such a username in the first place, but
>> >> strange
>> >> things happen sometimes.
>> >>
>> >> In an elevated Command Prompt window, you should be able to use the
>> >> Dir
>> >> command, held over from MS-DOS days when "folders" were Directories.
>> >> (As
>> >> with any command here, just type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file
>> >> listing
>> >> the
>> >> switches and parameters available with this command.) Start with your
>> >> username:
>> >> Dir C:\kevryl /s/a
>> >>
>> >> The /s and /a switches search all subfolders and list all files, even
>> >> those
>> >> with Hidden, System or other attributes. If a file or folder named
>> >> "kevryl"
>> >> is anywhere in Drive C: it should show up and you can read the full
>> >> pathname. (You could also search for "outlook.pst", of course.)
>> >>
>> >> If that doesn't work, post back with details about what you did - step
>> >> by
>> >> step - and what result you saw - verbatim; please don't paraphrase any
>> >> error
>> >> message that might appear. Several other techniques are available to
>> >> fine-tune Dir searches.
>> >>
>> >> I'm assuming of course that you are an Administrator and logged in as
>> >> such.
>> >>
>> >> RC
>> >>
>> >> "Kevryl" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:115498FF-A629-43D2-925C-...
>> >> > Hello all,
>> >> >
>> >> > Somewhere there HAS to be a Windows 7 discussion group, but it
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> > seem
>> >> > to be listed anywhere in the Microsoft discussion groups tree.
>> >> > Someone
>> >> > in
>> >> > here may be able to help or at least point me to a Win 7 discussion
>> >> > group.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have just bought 2 identical machines with Win 7 installed. My
>> >> > user
>> >> > account is there on both (libraries documents right click
>> >> > properties)
>> >> > immediately under c:\users, but when I go to c: drive, I find only
>> >> > public
>> >> > and
>> >> > default, and when invited to "search in sub-folders" an
>> >> > unintelligibnle
>> >> > mish-mash of files and folders appear, and still my own user folder
>> >> > is
>> >> > not
>> >> > visible (even after playing with the alphabetical selection down
>> >> > arrow). I
>> >> > have gone into folder options/view and selected "show hidden
>> >> > folders,
>> >> > files
>> >> > and drives" and even unticked "hide unprotected operating system
>> >> > files".
>> >> > My
>> >> > user account still wont appear so I can get into it and copy my
>> >> > "outlook.pst"
>> >> > file from the old machine into its rightful place on the new ones.
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone can help me with this issue, and how to get from this
>> >> > mish-mash
>> >> > of
>> >> > flattened out fiolders and files into a real directory structure I'd
>> >> > be
>> >> > most
>> >> > appreciative!