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Philip Ulrich
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      09-08-2007
Hey,
jw, is there some kind of overide to make it so that Aero can run on a older
video card? I know that sometimes idiots like microsoft make it so that u
have to have a better video card to run things even though you don't really
need that good of a video card to run it so that companys like nvidia will
pay them money so that they will get more sales and ect.

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steve sonsino
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      09-08-2007
you are right about your assumptions but no you cannot do that with vista...
Believe me.. many have tried!

but with beryl on linux you can have a 3d desktop with older cards





"Philip Ulrich" <> wrote in message
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> Hey,
> jw, is there some kind of overide to make it so that Aero can run on a
> older
> video card? I know that sometimes idiots like microsoft make it so that u
> have to have a better video card to run things even though you don't
> really
> need that good of a video card to run it so that companys like nvidia will
> pay them money so that they will get more sales and ect.
>
> --
> - It's always Microsoft's fault no matter what your problem is.




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Philip Ulrich
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      09-09-2007
thx Steve. I know you can do it w\ linux and thats what drove me to post
this. In fact if all my software was linux compatible, I would switch, but
its not and a lot of software wont work on linux even though its getting
immensly more popular. This problem and a lot more are why I always say: It's
always Microsoft's fault no matter what your problem is.

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jonathan perreault
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      09-09-2007
amen brother

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"Philip Ulrich" <> wrote in message
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> thx Steve. I know you can do it w\ linux and thats what drove me to post
> this. In fact if all my software was linux compatible, I would switch, but
> its not and a lot of software wont work on linux even though its getting
> immensly more popular. This problem and a lot more are why I always say:
> It's
> always Microsoft's fault no matter what your problem is.
>
> -------------------------------------
> - It's always Microsoft's fault no matter what your problem is.
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Andrew McLaren
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      09-09-2007
"Philip Ulrich" <> wrote...
> jw, is there some kind of overide to make it so that Aero can run on a
> older
> video card? I know that sometimes idiots like microsoft make it so that u
> have to have a better video card to run things even though you don't
> really
> need that good of a video card to run it so that companys like nvidia will
> pay them money so that they will get more sales and ect.


Hi Phil,

By default, Aero requires 128MB of dedicated video RAM in order to run. You
may be able to "trick" Aero into running with less video memory, by tweaking
the Winsat\VideoMemorySize value in the Registry. change this value on your
machine to decimal 67108864 (or 0x4000000) to tell Aero to run on 64MB of
RAM. You need to restart the Desktop Window Manager Session Manager
service, for the change to take effect.

See this interesting Microsoft document for details:
Windows Vista Rules for Enabling Windows Aero (With Guidelines for
Troubleshooting)
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...ero_rules.mspx

As described in the HDC doc, with 64MB RAM you can only run Aero at limited
resolutions - probably max 1280x1024.

There are several other prerequisites for running Aero:
- support for DirectX 9 graphics
- a WDDM driver
- Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
It's possible your card may not meet these other conditions - especially, it
might be hard to find a Vista WDDM driver for an older card. But hacking the
Registry may get you past the memory barrer, at least.

Good luck with it,
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Lang Murphy
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      09-09-2007
"Philip Ulrich" <> wrote in message
news:2141DE89-D788-41AB-8084-...
> Hey,
> jw, is there some kind of overide to make it so that Aero can run on a
> older
> video card? I know that sometimes idiots like microsoft make it so that u
> have to have a better video card to run things even though you don't
> really
> need that good of a video card to run it so that companys like nvidia will
> pay them money so that they will get more sales and ect.
>
> --
> - It's always Microsoft's fault no matter what your problem is.



It can be done, regardless of the other replies. I got Aero working on a
laptop with 64MB video RAM and 512MB RAM. Try this:

1/ Ensure that you have the following registry values set to :

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM\Composition set to 1 (32-bit DWORD)

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM\CompositionPol icy set to 2 (32-bit
DWORD)

2/ Restart DWM by opening a command prompt with administrative privileges :

- Type 'net stop uxsms'
- Then 'net start uxsms'

Let us know...

Lang

 
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Lang Murphy
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      09-09-2007
"steve sonsino" <> wrote in message
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> you are right about your assumptions but no you cannot do that with
> vista...
> Believe me.. many have tried!
>
> but with beryl on linux you can have a 3d desktop with older cards
>


Uh, wrong? I've gotten Aero to run on systems with 64MB video RAM and 512MB
RAM. It -can- be done. See my reply to the original post...

Lang

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> "Philip Ulrich" <> wrote in message
> news:2141DE89-D788-41AB-8084-...
>> Hey,
>> jw, is there some kind of overide to make it so that Aero can run on a
>> older
>> video card? I know that sometimes idiots like microsoft make it so that u
>> have to have a better video card to run things even though you don't
>> really
>> need that good of a video card to run it so that companys like nvidia
>> will
>> pay them money so that they will get more sales and ect.
>>
>> --
>> - It's always Microsoft's fault no matter what your problem is.

>
>
>
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Andrew McLaren
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      09-09-2007
"Lang Murphy" <> wrote
> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM\Composition set to 1 (32-bit DWORD)
> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM\CompositionPol icy set to 2 (32-bit
> DWORD)
> 2/ Restart DWM by opening a command prompt with administrative privileges
> :
> - Type 'net stop uxsms'
> - Then 'net start uxsms'


Doh! I forgot about that one (my memory's shot, I gotta start writing stuff
down ... :-)

Yes, that's the best way to force enabling of Aero.

Mind you, you still need Pixel 2.0, and 32 bit colour, and a WDDM graphics
driver. But worth a shot.

Thanks, Lang!!
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      09-09-2007


"Philip Ulrich" wrote:

>I know that sometimes idiots like microsoft make it so that u
> have to have a better video card to run things even though you don't really
> need that good of a video card to run it so that companys like nvidia will
> pay them money so that they will get more sales and ect.


DirectX9 released in 2002: it's since 5 years that DirectX9 graphics cards
released (they're Aero capable) !!!
Buy a Geforce 6200 AGP with 256MB on board for $59 only
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133151
http://www.pny.com/products/verto/pe...ce/6200agp.asp

 
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Philip Ulrich
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      09-09-2007
Hey Lang,
I know how to do alot of things w\ vista but editing registrys is not one.
Could you or someone else tell me how to???

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