Windows Boot Manager

Hello,
I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on top
of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot Manager"
screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option, or
wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code is
14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The non-default
option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly, but
since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote restarts
are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.

Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot Manager
is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid of
it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
either.

How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up in
Vista automatically?

Hi rolfe

if you have a vista install disk you may want to boot from the disk an
run a startup repai

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"Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
newsB0FE222-6A81-48BC-A720-...
> Hello,
> I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on
> top
> of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
> controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
> Manager"
> screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
> Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
> default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option,
> or
> wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
> "\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code
> is
> 14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
> non-default
> option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly,
> but
> since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
> restarts
> are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
>
> Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
> Manager
> is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid
> of
> it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
> either.
>
> How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up
> in
> Vista automatically?
>


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392

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Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.

Do you have any other ideas?


Thanks

"D. Eth" wrote:

> "Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
> newsB0FE222-6A81-48BC-A720-...
> > Hello,
> > I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on
> > top
> > of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
> > controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
> > Manager"
> > screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
> > Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
> > default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option,
> > or
> > wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
> > "\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code
> > is
> > 14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
> > non-default
> > option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly,
> > but
> > since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
> > restarts
> > are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
> >
> > Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
> > Manager
> > is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid
> > of
> > it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
> > either.
> >
> > How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up
> > in
> > Vista automatically?
> >
>
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
>
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> Fit caedes omnibus locis
>
>

"Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
news:56CED077-CDE5-4E87-982A-...
> Hi,
> Thanks for the reply.
> Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
> Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.
>
> Do you have any other ideas?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> "D. Eth" wrote:
>
>> "Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
>> newsB0FE222-6A81-48BC-A720-...
>> > Hello,
>> > I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
>> > on
>> > top
>> > of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
>> > storage
>> > controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
>> > Manager"
>> > screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
>> > Windows
>> > Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
>> > default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
>> > option,
>> > or
>> > wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
>> > "\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
>> > code
>> > is
>> > 14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
>> > non-default
>> > option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
>> > correctly,
>> > but
>> > since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
>> > restarts
>> > are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
>> >
>> > Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
>> > Manager
>> > is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
>> > rid
>> > of
>> > it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
>> > work
>> > either.
>> >
>> > How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
>> > up
>> > in
>> > Vista automatically?
>> >
>>
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
>>
>> --
>> Ens causa sui
>> Fit caedes omnibus locis
>>
>>
>


did you run it with the /fixboot switch ?

Make sure you do.
If that doesn't work...back up your data...and do a clean install.

Or wait for someone to come up with a better plan.

They have third party boot/partition managers that maybe could fix your
issue.

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Hello,

Yes, I tried with /fixboot. No avail.
Thanks for the ideas. It is not an urgent fix, just inconvenient. It has
been this way for some time, and I've added a zillion apps to the Vista
instance, thus hesitancy to rebuild from scratch.

I'll keep looking for options.

Thanks
Rolfe

"D. Eth" wrote:

> "Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
> news:56CED077-CDE5-4E87-982A-...
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
> > Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.
> >
> > Do you have any other ideas?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "D. Eth" wrote:
> >
> >> "Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
> >> newsB0FE222-6A81-48BC-A720-...
> >> > Hello,
> >> > I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
> >> > on
> >> > top
> >> > of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
> >> > storage
> >> > controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
> >> > Manager"
> >> > screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
> >> > Windows
> >> > Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
> >> > default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
> >> > option,
> >> > or
> >> > wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
> >> > "\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
> >> > code
> >> > is
> >> > 14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
> >> > non-default
> >> > option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
> >> > correctly,
> >> > but
> >> > since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
> >> > restarts
> >> > are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
> >> >
> >> > Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
> >> > Manager
> >> > is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
> >> > rid
> >> > of
> >> > it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
> >> > work
> >> > either.
> >> >
> >> > How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
> >> > up
> >> > in
> >> > Vista automatically?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ens causa sui
> >> Fit caedes omnibus locis
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> did you run it with the /fixboot switch ?
>
> Make sure you do.
> If that doesn't work...back up your data...and do a clean install.
>
> Or wait for someone to come up with a better plan.
>
> They have third party boot/partition managers that maybe could fix your
> issue.
>
> --
> Ens causa sui
> Fit caedes omnibus locis
>
>

If you don't know how to use bcdedit, try third party program easybcd.

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 08:41:01 -0700, Rolfe Spiegel
<> wrote:

>Hello,
>I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server on top
>of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my storage
>controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot Manager"
>screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft Windows
>Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
>default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this option, or
>wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
>"\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error code is
>14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The non-default
>option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up correctly, but
>since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote restarts
>are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
>
>Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot Manager
>is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get rid of
>it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't work
>either.
>
>How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start up in
>Vista automatically?

Rolfe Spiegel;853174 Wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
> on top
> of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
> storage
> controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
> Manager"
> screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
> Windows
> Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
> default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
> option, or
> wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
> "\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
> code is
> 14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
> non-default
> option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
> correctly, but
> since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
> restarts
> are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
>
> Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
> Manager
> is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
> rid of
> it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
> work
> either.
>
> How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
> up in
> Vista automatically?

Hello Rolfe,

This might be of interest

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/82...n-default.html

SIW2


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Well, I fixed it.
Turned out to be an entry in the boot.ini, but the boot manager is that of
Vista. BCD did not show the bogus/default entry for "Windows Server 2003
Standard Edition Setup" and boot.ini did not show the entry for "Microsoft
Windows Vista", that was the confusing part. I guess Vista Boot Manager
somehow combines BCD and boot.ini. I don't know why it chose Windows 2003 as
the default, I couldn't find that.

By manually editing out the Windows 2003 entries in boot.ini, the Vista Boot
Manager starts correctly, with focus on Vista and no entry for Windows 2003.


Old and current BCD (did/does not show Win2003 entry seen in Boot Mgr):
===============================
c:\>bcdedit /enum

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 10

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {e8709fb7-fa5f-11db-be4d-e219ece5282e}
nx OptOut
===============================

Old boot.ini (showing Win2003 entry):
==================
;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
[operating systems]
c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard
Edition Setup"
====================

Current boot.ini (Win2003 entry removed):
=====================
;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=30
[operating systems]
=========================

Thank folks for providing suggestions-
Rolfe





"Rolfe Spiegel" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Yes, I tried with /fixboot. No avail.
> Thanks for the ideas. It is not an urgent fix, just inconvenient. It has
> been this way for some time, and I've added a zillion apps to the Vista
> instance, thus hesitancy to rebuild from scratch.
>
> I'll keep looking for options.
>
> Thanks
> Rolfe
>
> "D. Eth" wrote:
>
> > "Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
> > news:56CED077-CDE5-4E87-982A-...
> > > Hi,
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > > Bootrec.exe (from the KB) did not fix the problem; I still get the Boot
> > > Manager that appears to be left over from Win2003.
> > >
> > > Do you have any other ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > "D. Eth" wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
> > >> newsB0FE222-6A81-48BC-A720-...
> > >> > Hello,
> > >> > I have a working copy of Vista. I tried to install Windows2003 Server
> > >> > on
> > >> > top
> > >> > of Vista, but failed when I didn't have the a 2003 driver for my
> > >> > storage
> > >> > controller. Now, when I boot the computer, I get the "Windows Boot
> > >> > Manager"
> > >> > screen with two options, "Microsoft Windows Vista" and "Microsoft
> > >> > Windows
> > >> > Server 2003 Standard Edition Setup". The option for 2003 Setup is the
> > >> > default, with a 30 second selection delay. If I either choose this
> > >> > option,
> > >> > or
> > >> > wait for 30 seconds to choose itself, I then get an error
> > >> > "\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BIOSINFO.INF could not be loaded [new line] The error
> > >> > code
> > >> > is
> > >> > 14 [new line] Setup can not continue" and I have to reboot. The
> > >> > non-default
> > >> > option for "Microsoft Windows Vista" works fine, and boots up
> > >> > correctly,
> > >> > but
> > >> > since it's not the default, I have to select it every time. Remote
> > >> > restarts
> > >> > are not possible because of the faulty (failed) 2003 default option.
> > >> >
> > >> > Vista BCDEdit does not see the 2003 startup option. I think the Boot
> > >> > Manager
> > >> > is left over from the failed 2003 install, but I don't know how to get
> > >> > rid
> > >> > of
> > >> > it. I've tried things like rewriting the Vista MBR, but that didn't
> > >> > work
> > >> > either.
> > >> >
> > >> > How can I get rid of this old Boot Manager, and make my computer start
> > >> > up
> > >> > in
> > >> > Vista automatically?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Ens causa sui
> > >> Fit caedes omnibus locis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > did you run it with the /fixboot switch ?
> >
> > Make sure you do.
> > If that doesn't work...back up your data...and do a clean install.
> >
> > Or wait for someone to come up with a better plan.
> >
> > They have third party boot/partition managers that maybe could fix your
> > issue.
> >
> > --
> > Ens causa sui
> > Fit caedes omnibus locis
> >
> >

"Rolfe Spiegel" <> wrote in message
news:B00C257C-6E38-430B-95F3-...
> Well, I fixed it.
> Turned out to be an entry in the boot.ini, but the boot manager is that of
> Vista. BCD did not show the bogus/default entry for "Windows Server 2003
> Standard Edition Setup" and boot.ini did not show the entry for "Microsoft
> Windows Vista", that was the confusing part. I guess Vista Boot Manager
> somehow combines BCD and boot.ini. I don't know why it chose Windows 2003
> as
> the default, I couldn't find that.
>
> By manually editing out the Windows 2003 entries in boot.ini, the Vista
> Boot
> Manager starts correctly, with focus on Vista and no entry for Windows
> 2003.
>
>


Awesome.
Never thought of the boot.ini file.
Good suggestion for the future... Thanks

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