Windows Defender and MU

Here's my problem: I have Defender installed but also have Automatic Updates
set to Notify, since in the case of almost all (non-Defender) updates, I
want to hold back for a few days on them and let the early adopters in this
forum take the bullets for me. When the coast is clear, I then run MU and
install them.

But Defender changes the equation with its weekly updates.

Every week, Automatic Updates annoyingly notifies me about a Defender
update, when I don't really want it to. MU should be able to either 1) At
the very least, allow you to disable all future Defender offerings or 2)
Even better, allow you to make an exception for Defender updates to have
them installed automatically, disregarding the fact that Automatic Updates
is on Notify.

When you installed Defender, did you opt for automatic installation of
definition updates?

Microsoft has established separate newsgroups Windows Defender Beta2 support
and comments. See
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
> Here's my problem: I have Defender installed but also have Automatic
> Updates set to Notify, since in the case of almost all (non-Defender)
> updates, I want to hold back for a few days on them and let the early
> adopters in this forum take the bullets for me. When the coast is clear,
> I then run MU and install them.
>
> But Defender changes the equation with its weekly updates.
>
> Every week, Automatic Updates annoyingly notifies me about a Defender
> update, when I don't really want it to. MU should be able to either 1) At
> the very least, allow you to disable all future Defender offerings or 2)
> Even better, allow you to make an exception for Defender updates to have
> them installed automatically, disregarding the fact that Automatic Updates
> is on Notify.

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
> When you installed Defender, did you opt for automatic installation of
> definition updates?
>
> Microsoft has established separate newsgroups Windows Defender Beta2
> support and comments. See
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx.

I opted, I think, to let MU handle it, but it's apparently a one-way street.
I'm not even sure there's any other way to update it. I posted over there
before but they said to come over here since it seems to be an MU
limitation.

Please include all of previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup.

Remember: It's a beta.

Did you try "hiding" the offer update?

Try uninstalling Defender then reinstalling it, opting out of any automatic
updating, including "update and scan" upon finishing the install.

NB: If you do so, you will not be able to get /any/ updated definitions
until a new batch is released. See
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=915105
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > When you installed Defender, did you opt for automatic installation of
> > definition updates?
> >
> > Microsoft has established separate newsgroups Windows Defender Beta2
> > support and comments. See
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx.
>
> I opted, I think, to let MU handle it, but it's apparently a one-way
> street. I'm not even sure there's any other way to update it. I posted
> over there before but they said to come over here since it seems to be an
> MU limitation.
<paste>
> Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
> > Here's my problem: I have Defender installed but also have Automatic
> > Updates set to Notify, since in the case of almost all (non-Defender)
> > updates, I want to hold back for a few days on them and let the early
> > adopters in this forum take the bullets for me. When the coast is clear,
> > I then run MU and install them.
> >
> > But Defender changes the equation with its weekly updates.
> >
> > Every week, Automatic Updates annoyingly notifies me about a Defender
> > update, when I don't really want it to. MU should be able to either 1)
> > At the very least, allow you to disable all future Defender offerings
> > or 2) Even better, allow you to make an exception for Defender updates
> > to have them installed automatically, disregarding the fact that
> > Automatic Updates is on Notify.

Yes, hiding works, but you have to do it every single time. That's why I was
suggesting a "and forever more" option in MU.

OK, I'll try what you ask, but first I'll go ask over in the other group to
see if there's a Registry change that can be made to accomplish the same
thing. I would think there is. Anyway, it's good to see there is a manual
update option, but I surely never would have thought to look for it in
Help/About!


"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Please include all of previous message(s) in your replies to the
> newsgroup.
>
> Remember: It's a beta.
>
> Did you try "hiding" the offer update?
>
> Try uninstalling Defender then reinstalling it, opting out of any
> automatic updating, including "update and scan" upon finishing the
> install.
>
> NB: If you do so, you will not be able to get /any/ updated definitions
> until a new batch is released. See
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=915105
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
>
> Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
>> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > When you installed Defender, did you opt for automatic installation of
>> > definition updates?
>> >
>> > Microsoft has established separate newsgroups Windows Defender Beta2
>> > support and comments. See
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx.
>>
>> I opted, I think, to let MU handle it, but it's apparently a one-way
>> street. I'm not even sure there's any other way to update it. I posted
>> over there before but they said to come over here since it seems to be an
>> MU limitation.
> <paste>
>> Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
>> > Here's my problem: I have Defender installed but also have Automatic
>> > Updates set to Notify, since in the case of almost all (non-Defender)
>> > updates, I want to hold back for a few days on them and let the early
>> > adopters in this forum take the bullets for me. When the coast is
>> > clear,
>> > I then run MU and install them.
>> >
>> > But Defender changes the equation with its weekly updates.
>> >
>> > Every week, Automatic Updates annoyingly notifies me about a Defender
>> > update, when I don't really want it to. MU should be able to either 1)
>> > At the very least, allow you to disable all future Defender offerings
>> > or 2) Even better, allow you to make an exception for Defender updates
>> > to have them installed automatically, disregarding the fact that
>> > Automatic Updates is on Notify.
>

WYSIWYG. Each new set of Defender signatures (definitions) is a new, not a
cumulative, update. Same thing happens with OL Junk Mail Filter updates.
--
~PA Bear

Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
> Yes, hiding works, but you have to do it every single time. That's why I
> was suggesting a "and forever more" option in MU.
>
> OK, I'll try what you ask, but first I'll go ask over in the other group
> to see if there's a Registry change that can be made to accomplish the
> same thing. I would think there is. Anyway, it's good to see there is a
> manual update option, but I surely never would have thought to look for
> it in Help/About!
>
>
> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Please include all of previous message(s) in your replies to the
> > newsgroup.
> >
> > Remember: It's a beta.
> >
> > Did you try "hiding" the offer update?
> >
> > Try uninstalling Defender then reinstalling it, opting out of any
> > automatic updating, including "update and scan" upon finishing the
> > install.
> >
> > NB: If you do so, you will not be able to get /any/ updated definitions
> > until a new batch is released. See
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=915105
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
> >
> > Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
> > > "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > When you installed Defender, did you opt for automatic installation
> > > > of definition updates?
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft has established separate newsgroups Windows Defender Beta2
> > > > support and comments. See
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...s/default.mspx.
> > >
> > > I opted, I think, to let MU handle it, but it's apparently a one-way
> > > street. I'm not even sure there's any other way to update it. I posted
> > > over there before but they said to come over here since it seems to
> > > be an MU limitation.
> > <paste>
> > > Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
> > > > Here's my problem: I have Defender installed but also have Automatic
> > > > Updates set to Notify, since in the case of almost all
> > > > (non-Defender) updates, I want to hold back for a few days on them
> > > > and let the early adopters in this forum take the bullets for me.
> > > > When the coast is clear,
> > > > I then run MU and install them.
> > > >
> > > > But Defender changes the equation with its weekly updates.
> > > >
> > > > Every week, Automatic Updates annoyingly notifies me about a
> > > > Defender update, when I don't really want it to. MU should be able
> > > > to either 1) At the very least, allow you to disable all future
> > > > Defender offerings or 2) Even better, allow you to make an
> > > > exception for Defender updates to have them installed
> > > > automatically, disregarding the fact that Automatic Updates is on
> > > > Notify.