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      10-02-2007
My score is 2.4 because fo my gaming graphics. My graphics is 3.0. I have a
hp pavillion notebook dv9000 series.I have a nvidia GeForce Go 6150 w/shared
memory. How can I improve this score? everytrhing else is in the 4+'s. this
is my 1st laptop & don't know much about adding hardware to them. If it was a
desktop I'd just run out and buy a new card but I'm out of my comfort zone
here:-). Thanx for any help!
 
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      10-02-2007
The video card can not normally be changed in a laptop so there is
little you can do.

Check if there are newer drivers available for the card.

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> My score is 2.4 because fo my gaming graphics. My graphics is 3.0. I
> have a
> hp pavillion notebook dv9000 series.I have a nvidia GeForce Go 6150
> w/shared
> memory. How can I improve this score? everytrhing else is in the
> 4+'s. this
> is my 1st laptop & don't know much about adding hardware to them. If
> it was a
> desktop I'd just run out and buy a new card but I'm out of my
> comfort zone
> here:-). Thanx for any help!


 
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      10-02-2007

Not sure but I don't think new drivers will improve the score. Shared
graphics memory is bad news for any game player. - particularly Internet
gaming. A score of 2.4 is really something to make you think of
reinstalling XP I'm afraid.


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      10-02-2007
Is there a way to increase the amount of memory that the graphics have access
to? It only has 1 gb of memory, so if I add another gb (which I was seriously
thinking of doing anyways) then I would have x amount (more) I could put that
way. Just trying to see if I can make this more suitable, as I had no idea
about this rating before I bought this. Guess as a last resort I could take
it back as I've only had it for a week, but I really like everything except
for that...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> The video card can not normally be changed in a laptop so there is
> little you can do.
>
> Check if there are newer drivers available for the card.
>
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> http://www.dts-l.org
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> "new vista user" <new vista > wrote in
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> > My score is 2.4 because fo my gaming graphics. My graphics is 3.0. I
> > have a
> > hp pavillion notebook dv9000 series.I have a nvidia GeForce Go 6150
> > w/shared
> > memory. How can I improve this score? everytrhing else is in the
> > 4+'s. this
> > is my 1st laptop & don't know much about adding hardware to them. If
> > it was a
> > desktop I'd just run out and buy a new card but I'm out of my
> > comfort zone
> > here:-). Thanx for any help!

>
>

 
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      10-02-2007
Adding more memory will probably not affect the video card usage.
Check the documentation and contact the manufacturer for details.

Also, do not get to hung up on the numbers.
Instead see how the computer performs.
The numbers are only a guide and should not be used in determining if
you need more of anything.

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> Is there a way to increase the amount of memory that the graphics
> have access
> to? It only has 1 gb of memory, so if I add another gb (which I was
> seriously
> thinking of doing anyways) then I would have x amount (more) I could
> put that
> way. Just trying to see if I can make this more suitable, as I had
> no idea
> about this rating before I bought this. Guess as a last resort I
> could take
> it back as I've only had it for a week, but I really like everything
> except
> for that...
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> The video card can not normally be changed in a laptop so there is
>> little you can do.
>>
>> Check if there are newer drivers available for the card.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "new vista user" <new vista > wrote
>> in
>> message news:AA95E6AF-50DE-4BD8-B29B-...
>> > My score is 2.4 because fo my gaming graphics. My graphics is
>> > 3.0. I
>> > have a
>> > hp pavillion notebook dv9000 series.I have a nvidia GeForce Go
>> > 6150
>> > w/shared
>> > memory. How can I improve this score? everytrhing else is in the
>> > 4+'s. this
>> > is my 1st laptop & don't know much about adding hardware to them.
>> > If
>> > it was a
>> > desktop I'd just run out and buy a new card but I'm out of my
>> > comfort zone
>> > here:-). Thanx for any help!

>>
>>


 
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      10-02-2007
"new vista user" <> wrote ...
> Is there a way to increase the amount of memory that the graphics have
> access
> to? It only has 1 gb of memory, so if I add another gb (which I was
> seriously
> thinking of doing anyways) then I would have x amount (more) I could put
> that


Graphics shared system memory is calculated as MAX(((Total System Memory -
512) /2), 64).

With 1GB RAM your shared graphics memory will be 256MB; and with 2GB RAM
your your shared graphics memory will be 768MB. Note that this is the
theoretical maximum - in practice a driver might set a lower shared memory
limit (by setting the DXGK_SEGMENTDESCRIPTOR.CommitLimit field).

However the key factor is determining the "Graphics" benchmark is graphics
memory bandwidth, rather than total graphics memory available. You could add
memory all day long, but it won't budge your graphics bandwidth an inch. So
adding extra memory probably won't be reflected in a significantly higher
Graphics score; eg, it might go from 3.0 to 3.1 or 3.2.

For the "Gaming Graphics" measure, the principal metrics are Shader ALU
performance, Shader texture load performance and Post-pixel blend
performance. None of these wil be affected by extra graphics memory.

So, you're fairly stuck. As Mat suggested, you can try using a
Nvidia-supplied Geforce driver, rather than the generic Microsoft-supplied
driver. This might squeeze out a few extra points of performance. But,
overall: in a laptop, you can't change the video card, so you're fairly
stuck, score-wise.

> way. Just trying to see if I can make this more suitable, as I had no idea
> about this rating before I bought this. Guess as a last resort I could
> take
> it back as I've only had it for a week, but I really like everything
> except


Well, don't get to hung up on a benchmark. Are you actually seeing poor
video performace, to the point you cannot use the machine for its intended
purpose? On most of the WinSAT measures, a score of 3.0 is sufficient (maybe
not stunning - but, sufficient). Laptops typically aren't great gaming
machines. If you want your laptop to be a gaming monster, there are such
machines available - but they are more expensive, and usually incorporate
design compromises elsewhere (eg shorter battery life, heavier to carry).
You would need to select your laptop very carefully, if great gaming
performance is your primary goal.

Other folks may have extra info for you; hope this helps a bit.
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amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au


 
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      10-02-2007
He doesn't say he ever had XP and many notebooks delivered with Vista don't
have XP drivers. More memory and different drivers very well may help, and
faster memory with the shared nature would also probably help.

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> Not sure but I don't think new drivers will improve the score. Shared
> graphics memory is bad news for any game player. - particularly Internet
> gaming. A score of 2.4 is really something to make you think of
> reinstalling XP I'm afraid.
>
>
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      10-02-2007
uhaligani wrote:

> Not sure but I don't think new drivers will improve the score. Shared
> graphics memory is bad news for any game player. - particularly Internet
> gaming. A score of 2.4 is really something to make you think of
> reinstalling XP I'm afraid.


The Windows Experience Index will not change with the OS,
it is essentially a hardware rating to assist folks with
overall balancing of their computer system, and that a
well balanced computer system translates to a better
performing operating system.

In other words..a 2.4 in Vista will still be a 2.4 in WinXP.

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      10-02-2007

NT Canuck;469380 Wrote:
> uhaligani wrote:
>
>
> The Windows Experience Index will not change with the OS,
> it is essentially a hardware rating to assist folks with
> overall balancing of their computer system, and that a
> well balanced computer system translates to a better
> performing operating system.
>
> In other words..a 2.4 in Vista will still be a 2.4 in WinXP.
>
> NT Canuck
> 'Seek and ye shall find'


Not so. XP has far less demands on memory for it's own applications
-one of the pitfalls with Vista.. There is no "Windows Experience Index"
His computer, with those specs, will run most software on the normal
market comfortably
However, I overlooked the problem he may incur, mentioned above, about
the difficulties of installing XP on a prebuilt Vista machine.


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      10-02-2007
uhaligani wrote:

> Not so. XP has far less demands on memory for it's own applications
> -one of the pitfalls with Vista..


The actual memory demands are dictated by the application code,
the actual application code is not altered by respective OS's.
WinXP also doesn't properly assign memory if one has large
capacity ram installed, it mostly just sits there idle.

Vista does a bit more work in regard to securing the pathways
to system files and what may be sensitive data..there is a
cost ensued with regard to cpu cycles, memory in use, as
well as some dynamically shifting file/folder locations.
Your choice..a bit faster and less secure (WinXP)
or state of the art security and higher requirements.

Vista SP1 should iron out most of the performance issues
which are almost all due to relatively minor configuration
errors that were hard coded within Vista.

> There is no "Windows Experience Index"

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=

> His computer, with those specs, will run most software on the normal
> market comfortably
> However, I overlooked the problem he may incur, mentioned above, about
> the difficulties of installing XP on a prebuilt Vista machine.


WinXP is actually more like a radically cut down Vista OS,
several features on Vista haven't yet hit the market like
the ability to use new hard drives that feature built-in
memory boards for improved performance, or usb hard drives
with capacity to share system memory (a few just coming now).

My bet is that most folks moving back to WinXP from Vista
will end up deciding to upgrade to Vista or repurchase
a license used from downgrading within the next six months
to a year..those already on WinXP should typically wait
for WinXP SP3 before deciding any major changes/upgrades.

pcwizard2007
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