Windows Firewall and 3rd Party Firewall

Windows Vista Basic sp1.

Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security is
showing
Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???

James

> Windows Vista Basic sp1.
>
> Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
> it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
> shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
> Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security is
> showing
> Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
> Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???
>
> James
>
Interesting. I have Vista Business SP1 and see the same thing. Apparently
running the service is not the same an enabling the firewall. I guess you
could turn off the service, however if you uninstall the 3rd party firewall
you would have to remember to turn the service back on. 3rd party firewalls
are usually smart enough to toggle the Windows firewall off when they
install, and back on if they are uninstalled, but obviously the service
needs to keep running for that to not require user interaction.

I keep hearing about it's not a good idea to have 2 Firewall programs
running, that they
could conflict.


"Victek" <> wrote in message
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>> Windows Vista Basic sp1.
>>
>> Im using a 3rd party firewall program. In Administrative Tools---Services
>> it shows Windows Firewall status as Started. But, in Security Center it
>> shows my 3rd party firewall being On but Windows Firewall being off.
>> Also, in Administrative Tools---Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
>> is showing
>> Windows Firewall being on in Domain Profile. Is this normal?
>> Why would one show Windows Firewall as On and another show it as Off???
>>
>> James
>>
> Interesting. I have Vista Business SP1 and see the same thing.
> Apparently running the service is not the same an enabling the firewall.
> I guess you could turn off the service, however if you uninstall the 3rd
> party firewall you would have to remember to turn the service back on.
> 3rd party firewalls are usually smart enough to toggle the Windows
> firewall off when they install, and back on if they are uninstalled, but
> obviously the service needs to keep running for that to not require user
> interaction.

"JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> I keep hearing about it's not a good idea to have 2 Firewall programs
> running, that they
> could conflict.

Yes that's correct.
Uninstall the 3rd party firewall and enable/use Vista's built-in. Thats
really all you need.

/Jesper

My 3rd party firewall is part of a internet security suite and I plan on
keeping
it up and running unless I run into some unforeseen problems, it stays.

James
"Jesper Ravn" <> wrote in message
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> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>> I keep hearing about it's not a good idea to have 2 Firewall programs
>> running, that they
>> could conflict.
>
> Yes that's correct.
> Uninstall the 3rd party firewall and enable/use Vista's built-in. Thats
> really all you need.
>
> /Jesper

"JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> My 3rd party firewall is part of a internet security suite and I plan on
> keeping
> it up and running unless I run into some unforeseen problems, it stays.
>

Ok, but then uninstall your security suite, you really dont need it.
To setup a simple and clean defense layer, follow these steps:

1. Enable automatic updates (Windows + Adobe + Java, etc.)
http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html#update

2. Enable windows firewall
http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html#firewall

3. Usa a limited user account (LUA)
http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html#non-admin

4. Setup Software Restriction policy
http://www.mechbgon.com/srp/

5. Make one baseline image (system backup)
http://www.macrium.com/ReflectFree.asp

6. Implement data backup (ex. Carbonite online backup)
http://www.carbonite.com

Security suites gives people a lot of problems, dont waste your time and
mony on these products.

/Jesper

This software also is anti-virus. And as far as I know Windows has none
except for Live Onecare which is a suite that 'gives people a lot of
problems.'

Seems to be working fine for me, for a long time
Must admit though it seems to have slowed my startup somewhat.

James

"Jesper Ravn" <> wrote in message
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> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>> My 3rd party firewall is part of a internet security suite and I plan on
>> keeping
>> it up and running unless I run into some unforeseen problems, it stays.
>>
>
> Ok, but then uninstall your security suite, you really dont need it.
> To setup a simple and clean defense layer, follow these steps:
>
> 1. Enable automatic updates (Windows + Adobe + Java, etc.)
> http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html#update
>
> 2. Enable windows firewall
> http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html#firewall
>
> 3. Usa a limited user account (LUA)
> http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html#non-admin
>
> 4. Setup Software Restriction policy
> http://www.mechbgon.com/srp/
>
> 5. Make one baseline image (system backup)
> http://www.macrium.com/ReflectFree.asp
>
> 6. Implement data backup (ex. Carbonite online backup)
> http://www.carbonite.com
>
> Security suites gives people a lot of problems, dont waste your time and
> mony on these products.
>
> /Jesper
>
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"JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> This software also is anti-virus. And as far as I know Windows has none
> except for Live Onecare which is a suite that 'gives people a lot of
> problems.'
>
> Seems to be working fine for me, for a long time
> Must admit though it seems to have slowed my startup somewhat.

The point is, that security suites today, is one big ripoff and in the end,
they just slow down your work and waste your time.
If you try to follow the steps I listed before, you dont need Antivirus,
Antispyware, Personal FW or any other security utilitis.

/Jesper

Shouldn't one scan for viruses occasionally, though??

You've put a bug in my ear now.

James

"Jesper Ravn" <> wrote in message
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> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>> This software also is anti-virus. And as far as I know Windows has none
>> except for Live Onecare which is a suite that 'gives people a lot of
>> problems.'
>>
>> Seems to be working fine for me, for a long time
>> Must admit though it seems to have slowed my startup somewhat.
>
> The point is, that security suites today, is one big ripoff and in the
> end, they just slow down your work and waste your time.
> If you try to follow the steps I listed before, you dont need Antivirus,
> Antispyware, Personal FW or any other security utilitis.
>
> /Jesper
>
>
>

Any other opinions? Please feel free to jump in.


"Jesper Ravn" <> wrote in message
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> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>>
>> This software also is anti-virus. And as far as I know Windows has none
>> except for Live Onecare which is a suite that 'gives people a lot of
>> problems.'
>>
>> Seems to be working fine for me, for a long time
>> Must admit though it seems to have slowed my startup somewhat.
>
> The point is, that security suites today, is one big ripoff and in the
> end, they just slow down your work and waste your time.
> If you try to follow the steps I listed before, you dont need Antivirus,
> Antispyware, Personal FW or any other security utilitis.
>
> /Jesper
>
>
>