Windows live mail and others

Hello, I just installed windows 7, and found out there is no built in email
client.
I am finding out, that I can't get windows mail, but I can get windows live
mail
from MS as a downloaded add on. I don't think I understand how this works.

Where are your email messages, contact list, & whatever else data actually
stored ???
If you can get to your email account from anywhere, does that mean that you
have to access
your computer remotely, and have it turned on all the time ? Or does MS have
all you private info on their
servers ? I just don't understand how it all works. I have so many
questions I don't know where to begin.
I have searched around on the web, but I still don't have a clear idea how
this all works.

Can someone help me to understand ? I hope this is the proper newsgroup for
this question,
If not, can you please direst me ?
Thanks Mike

Hi, Mike.

Since I don't know how much you already know about email and newsgroups, I'm
also not sure where to start. Let's try this:

Outlook Express was/is an integral part of Windows XP and several prior
generations of Windows; it will not run in Vista or Win7. Windows Mail
was/is and integral part of Windows Vista; it will not run on anything else.
Windows Live Mail is NOT an integral part of any Windows version; it can be
downloaded (from http://download.live.com ) and installed into any version
of Windows. (Yes, this is the right newsgroup; ignore the word "desktop" in
the name; that name was removed from the name of WLM over 3 years ago but
it's not so easy to change the name of a newsgroup.) WLM is one of the
Windows Live Essentials, which also include Windows Live Contacts, Windows
Live Messenger...and several others, all available at the same site.

Sad to say, the name confusion does not end there. As you probably know,
Outlook Express is NOT related to Outlook, which may be purchases separately
or as a part of the Microsoft Office suite and, like Windows, has been
updated many times (Office 2000, Office XP, Office 2007...to name a few).
And WLMail is not the same as WLHotmail, but we can use WLMail to access
Hotmail accounts. (Personally, I've used only POP3; there are many others
here who are Hotmail gurus, but peer-to-peer support for Hotmail is in a
different newsgroup.)

If you are familiar with OE and/or WM, WLM's interface will look familiar -
but not identical. There are many differences "under the hood", but in
day-to-day operation, you should soon become comfortable with WLM. A couple
of changes you should know about at the beginning: First, yes, there still
is a Menu Bar (File | Edit | ... Tools, etc.), but it is hidden by default.
To see the Menu Bar momentarily, just press Alt; to toggle it on/off, press
Alt+M, M. Second, there is no Send/Receive button; it has been replaced by
Sync, which works almost the same way, but not quite.

As you are getting your feet wet with WLM, use the Tools | Options tabs to
customize it to suit yourself, just as you did in OE or Wm. Those tabs are
almost identical to the earlier programs.

If you have specific questions, please ask them. Mainly, though, for a day
or two, just use WLM the way you used OE/WM and it should feel comfy before
long.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Mike" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello, I just installed windows 7, and found out there is no built in
> email client.
> I am finding out, that I can't get windows mail, but I can get windows
> live mail
> from MS as a downloaded add on. I don't think I understand how this works.
>
> Where are your email messages, contact list, & whatever else data actually
> stored ???
> If you can get to your email account from anywhere, does that mean that
> you have to access
> your computer remotely, and have it turned on all the time ? Or does MS
> have all you private info on their
> servers ? I just don't understand how it all works. I have so many
> questions I don't know where to begin.
> I have searched around on the web, but I still don't have a clear idea how
> this all works.
>
> Can someone help me to understand ? I hope this is the proper newsgroup
> for this question,
> If not, can you please direst me ?
> Thanks Mike

To add to what R. C. told the OP

Like Outlook Express and Windows Mail, Live Mail stores your messages on
your computer.
Whether you can access them from another computer depends on who you use as
a Mail Provider.
If you use a local ISP, then most likely the messages are removed from the
ISP's server when your access them through Live Mail.
However, if you sign up for either a Gmail Account or a HotMail account,
then you can have a copy retained on the Providers server for remote access
via the web interface.
The free Yahoo account in the USA does not allow for Live Mail access.


"R. C. White" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Hi, Mike.
>
> Since I don't know how much you already know about email and newsgroups,
> I'm also not sure where to start. Let's try this:
>
> Outlook Express was/is an integral part of Windows XP and several prior
> generations of Windows; it will not run in Vista or Win7. Windows Mail
> was/is and integral part of Windows Vista; it will not run on anything
> else. Windows Live Mail is NOT an integral part of any Windows version; it
> can be downloaded (from http://download.live.com ) and installed into any
> version of Windows. (Yes, this is the right newsgroup; ignore the word
> "desktop" in the name; that name was removed from the name of WLM over 3
> years ago but it's not so easy to change the name of a newsgroup.) WLM is
> one of the Windows Live Essentials, which also include Windows Live
> Contacts, Windows Live Messenger...and several others, all available at
> the same site.
>
> Sad to say, the name confusion does not end there. As you probably know,
> Outlook Express is NOT related to Outlook, which may be purchases
> separately or as a part of the Microsoft Office suite and, like Windows,
> has been updated many times (Office 2000, Office XP, Office 2007...to name
> a few). And WLMail is not the same as WLHotmail, but we can use WLMail to
> access Hotmail accounts. (Personally, I've used only POP3; there are many
> others here who are Hotmail gurus, but peer-to-peer support for Hotmail is
> in a different newsgroup.)
>
> If you are familiar with OE and/or WM, WLM's interface will look
> familiar - but not identical. There are many differences "under the
> hood", but in day-to-day operation, you should soon become comfortable
> with WLM. A couple of changes you should know about at the beginning:
> First, yes, there still is a Menu Bar (File | Edit | ... Tools, etc.), but
> it is hidden by default. To see the Menu Bar momentarily, just press Alt;
> to toggle it on/off, press Alt+M, M. Second, there is no Send/Receive
> button; it has been replaced by Sync, which works almost the same way, but
> not quite.
>
> As you are getting your feet wet with WLM, use the Tools | Options tabs to
> customize it to suit yourself, just as you did in OE or Wm. Those tabs
> are almost identical to the earlier programs.
>
> If you have specific questions, please ask them. Mainly, though, for a
> day or two, just use WLM the way you used OE/WM and it should feel comfy
> before long.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
>
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>
> "Mike" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hello, I just installed windows 7, and found out there is no built in
>> email client.
>> I am finding out, that I can't get windows mail, but I can get windows
>> live mail
>> from MS as a downloaded add on. I don't think I understand how this
>> works.
>>
>> Where are your email messages, contact list, & whatever else data
>> actually stored ???
>> If you can get to your email account from anywhere, does that mean that
>> you have to access
>> your computer remotely, and have it turned on all the time ? Or does MS
>> have all you private info on their
>> servers ? I just don't understand how it all works. I have so many
>> questions I don't know where to begin.
>> I have searched around on the web, but I still don't have a clear idea
>> how this all works.
>>
>> Can someone help me to understand ? I hope this is the proper newsgroup
>> for this question,
>> If not, can you please direst me ?
>> Thanks Mike
>

Hi, Richard.

Thanks for the addition. One clarification, though...

> If you use a local ISP, then most likely the messages are removed from the
> ISP's server when your access them through Live Mail.

In WLM/WM, the default (in Tools | Accounts...) is to "Leave a copy of
messages on server", but it can be changed. In OE, the default was to not
leave a copy. In any case, of course, we should set the option to delete
messages from the server after a reasonable number of days so that our
mailbox on the server will not overflow.

And a trap for the unwary, especially in the first days as we are still
getting Accounts created - and sometimes deleted and re-created: When we
Remove a Mail Account in WLM, it warns us that all messages for that account
will be deleted, but the warning, buried in the middle of other text, is
often missed by users who simply click OK without reading it carefully. :>(

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Richard in AZ" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> To add to what R. C. told the OP
>
> Like Outlook Express and Windows Mail, Live Mail stores your messages on
> your computer.
> Whether you can access them from another computer depends on who you use
> as
> a Mail Provider.
> If you use a local ISP, then most likely the messages are removed from the
> ISP's server when your access them through Live Mail.
> However, if you sign up for either a Gmail Account or a HotMail account,
> then you can have a copy retained on the Providers server for remote
> access
> via the web interface.
> The free Yahoo account in the USA does not allow for Live Mail access.
>
>
> "R. C. White" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Hi, Mike.
>>
>> Since I don't know how much you already know about email and newsgroups,
>> I'm also not sure where to start. Let's try this:
>>
>> Outlook Express was/is an integral part of Windows XP and several prior
>> generations of Windows; it will not run in Vista or Win7. Windows Mail
>> was/is and integral part of Windows Vista; it will not run on anything
>> else. Windows Live Mail is NOT an integral part of any Windows version;
>> it can be downloaded (from http://download.live.com ) and installed into
>> any version of Windows. (Yes, this is the right newsgroup; ignore the
>> word "desktop" in the name; that name was removed from the name of WLM
>> over 3 years ago but it's not so easy to change the name of a newsgroup.)
>> WLM is one of the Windows Live Essentials, which also include Windows
>> Live Contacts, Windows Live Messenger...and several others, all available
>> at the same site.
>>
>> Sad to say, the name confusion does not end there. As you probably know,
>> Outlook Express is NOT related to Outlook, which may be purchases
>> separately or as a part of the Microsoft Office suite and, like Windows,
>> has been updated many times (Office 2000, Office XP, Office 2007...to
>> name a few). And WLMail is not the same as WLHotmail, but we can use
>> WLMail to access Hotmail accounts. (Personally, I've used only POP3;
>> there are many others here who are Hotmail gurus, but peer-to-peer
>> support for Hotmail is in a different newsgroup.)
>>
>> If you are familiar with OE and/or WM, WLM's interface will look
>> familiar - but not identical. There are many differences "under the
>> hood", but in day-to-day operation, you should soon become comfortable
>> with WLM. A couple of changes you should know about at the beginning:
>> First, yes, there still is a Menu Bar (File | Edit | ... Tools, etc.),
>> but it is hidden by default. To see the Menu Bar momentarily, just press
>> Alt; to toggle it on/off, press Alt+M, M. Second, there is no
>> Send/Receive button; it has been replaced by Sync, which works almost the
>> same way, but not quite.
>>
>> As you are getting your feet wet with WLM, use the Tools | Options tabs
>> to customize it to suit yourself, just as you did in OE or Wm. Those
>> tabs are almost identical to the earlier programs.
>>
>> If you have specific questions, please ask them. Mainly, though, for a
>> day or two, just use WLM the way you used OE/WM and it should feel comfy
>> before long.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Mike" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Hello, I just installed windows 7, and found out there is no built in
>>> email client.
>>> I am finding out, that I can't get windows mail, but I can get windows
>>> live mail
>>> from MS as a downloaded add on. I don't think I understand how this
>>> works.
>>>
>>> Where are your email messages, contact list, & whatever else data
>>> actually stored ???
>>> If you can get to your email account from anywhere, does that mean that
>>> you have to access
>>> your computer remotely, and have it turned on all the time ? Or does MS
>>> have all you private info on their
>>> servers ? I just don't understand how it all works. I have so many
>>> questions I don't know where to begin.
>>> I have searched around on the web, but I still don't have a clear idea
>>> how this all works.
>>>
>>> Can someone help me to understand ? I hope this is the proper newsgroup
>>> for this question,
>>> If not, can you please direst me ?
>>> Thanks Mike

How did you access your mail on rocket.org? Did you use pop3 or IMAP
access?
Did you only access your email with an email program?
--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP-Mail

"Mike" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello, I just installed windows 7, and found out there is no built in
> email client.
> I am finding out, that I can't get windows mail, but I can get windows
> live mail
> from MS as a downloaded add on. I don't think I understand how this works.
>
> Where are your email messages, contact list, & whatever else data actually
> stored ???
> If you can get to your email account from anywhere, does that mean that
> you have to access
> your computer remotely, and have it turned on all the time ? Or does MS
> have all you private info on their
> servers ? I just don't understand how it all works. I have so many
> questions I don't know where to begin.
> I have searched around on the web, but I still don't have a clear idea how
> this all works.
>
> Can someone help me to understand ? I hope this is the proper newsgroup
> for this question,
> If not, can you please direst me ?
> Thanks Mike
>
>