Windows Live Mail - Web Based or Local?

Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my machine)?
I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on the link from the
Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then nothing. A few times
it will say ...Wait while windows live mail is configured...(or something
like that), then nothing. I have a Hotmail and a Live account. But they are
web based. Is that Windows Live Mail? Thanks.

I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Windows Live
Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At first I only installed
Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar and basically it is web
based email with a local toolbar on IE7. The Toolbar is the controller. If
I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.


"Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my
> machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on the
> link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then
> nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait while windows live mail is
> configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have a Hotmail and
> a Live account. But they are web based. Is that Windows Live Mail? Thanks.

That's not correct. Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop
mail client, which also happens to handle Hotmail accounts.
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)


"Poten Tate" <> wrote in message news:%...
>I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Windows Live Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At
>first I only installed Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar and basically it is web based email with a local
>toolbar on IE7. The Toolbar is the controller. If I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.
>
>
> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message news:%...
>> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I
>> click on the link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait
>> while windows live mail is configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have a Hotmail and a Live account. But they
>> are web based. Is that Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
>

Thanks for the reply, Gary.

"Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop mail client"

Mail client for what? From what I see it's just another part of the browser.
And when email is accessed (to read, send, search emails, etc.) it goes to
the Internet. Am I missing something? I don't see the advantage to not just
going to the hotmail website and doing the same thing. Or keep using Windows
Mail or Outlook.



> mail client
"Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> That's not correct. Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop
> mail client, which also happens to handle Hotmail accounts.
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>>I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Windows
>>Live Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At first I only
>>installed Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar and
>>basically it is web based email with a local toolbar on IE7. The Toolbar
>>is the controller. If I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my
>>> machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on the
>>> link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then
>>> nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait while windows live mail is
>>> configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have a Hotmail
>>> and a Live account. But they are web based. Is that Windows Live Mail?
>>> Thanks.
>>
>
>

You seem to be referring to Windows Live Hotmail, which is a web-based email
service, and accessed with a web browser. It's the new version of Hotmail.

Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail are desktop programs which access POP and
IMAP email accounts. WLM can also download Hotmail email messages.


--
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

"Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Thanks for the reply, Gary.
>
> "Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop mail client"
>
> Mail client for what? From what I see it's just another part of the
> browser. And when email is accessed (to read, send, search emails, etc.)
> it goes to the Internet. Am I missing something? I don't see the advantage
> to not just going to the hotmail website and doing the same thing. Or keep
> using Windows Mail or Outlook.
>
>
>
>> mail client
> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> That's not correct. Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop
>> mail client, which also happens to handle Hotmail accounts.
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>
>>
>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>>I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Windows
>>>Live Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At first I only
>>>installed Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar and
>>>basically it is web based email with a local toolbar on IE7. The Toolbar
>>>is the controller. If I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my
>>>> machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on
>>>> the link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile,
>>>> then nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait while windows live mail
>>>> is configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have a
>>>> Hotmail and a Live account. But they are web based. Is that Windows
>>>> Live Mail? Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Well, I have installed the program from the URL below, 3 times now.

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

I have installed it on Vista32 and Vista64. Both Ultimate edition.

And from my first post in this thread

"when I click on the link from the
Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then nothing. A few times
it will say ...Wait while windows live mail is configured...(or something
like that), then nothing"

When I click on Home from the Toolbar (top left of browser) I go here-----
http://home.live.com/ ....all web based.

Do I have to have a paid subscription or something? From the Toolbar, what
do I click?

Dave, thanks for your reply.



"Dave" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You seem to be referring to Windows Live Hotmail, which is a web-based
> email service, and accessed with a web browser. It's the new version of
> Hotmail.
>
> Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail are desktop programs which access POP and
> IMAP email accounts. WLM can also download Hotmail email messages.
>
>
> --
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Thanks for the reply, Gary.
>>
>> "Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop mail client"
>>
>> Mail client for what? From what I see it's just another part of the
>> browser. And when email is accessed (to read, send, search emails, etc.)
>> it goes to the Internet. Am I missing something? I don't see the
>> advantage to not just going to the hotmail website and doing the same
>> thing. Or keep using Windows Mail or Outlook.
>>
>>
>>
>>> mail client
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> That's not correct. Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop
>>> mail client, which also happens to handle Hotmail accounts.
>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>>I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Windows
>>>>Live Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At first I only
>>>>installed Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar and
>>>>basically it is web based email with a local toolbar on IE7. The Toolbar
>>>>is the controller. If I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my
>>>>> machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on
>>>>> the link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile,
>>>>> then nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait while windows live mail
>>>>> is configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have a
>>>>> Hotmail and a Live account. But they are web based. Is that Windows
>>>>> Live Mail? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

WLM doesn't have a Home button, so you're still in your browser, not in WLM.
WLM is not a browser, it doesn't need your browser. It sounds like WLM may
not be fully installed.
You don't need to pay for anything.


--
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

"Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Well, I have installed the program from the URL below, 3 times now.
>
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> I have installed it on Vista32 and Vista64. Both Ultimate edition.
>
> And from my first post in this thread
>
> "when I click on the link from the
> Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then nothing. A few
> times
> it will say ...Wait while windows live mail is configured...(or something
> like that), then nothing"
>
> When I click on Home from the Toolbar (top left of browser) I go here-----
> http://home.live.com/ ....all web based.
>
> Do I have to have a paid subscription or something? From the Toolbar, what
> do I click?
>
> Dave, thanks for your reply.
>
>
>
> "Dave" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> You seem to be referring to Windows Live Hotmail, which is a web-based
>> email service, and accessed with a web browser. It's the new version of
>> Hotmail.
>>
>> Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail are desktop programs which access POP and
>> IMAP email accounts. WLM can also download Hotmail email messages.
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Thanks for the reply, Gary.
>>>
>>> "Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop mail client"
>>>
>>> Mail client for what? From what I see it's just another part of the
>>> browser. And when email is accessed (to read, send, search emails, etc.)
>>> it goes to the Internet. Am I missing something? I don't see the
>>> advantage to not just going to the hotmail website and doing the same
>>> thing. Or keep using Windows Mail or Outlook.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> mail client
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> That's not correct. Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop
>>>> mail client, which also happens to handle Hotmail accounts.
>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>> --
>>>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>>I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Windows
>>>>>Live Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At first I only
>>>>>installed Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar and
>>>>>basically it is web based email with a local toolbar on IE7. The
>>>>>Toolbar is the controller. If I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my
>>>>>> machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on
>>>>>> the link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile,
>>>>>> then nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait while windows live mail
>>>>>> is configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have a
>>>>>> Hotmail and a Live account. But they are web based. Is that Windows
>>>>>> Live Mail? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Dave & Gary, thanks for the replies. After I reinstalled Vista 32 I now have
Windows Live Mail alive and kicking. It looks nice. Will proceed forward
now.

"Dave" <> wrote in message
news:u$...
> WLM doesn't have a Home button, so you're still in your browser, not in
> WLM.
> WLM is not a browser, it doesn't need your browser. It sounds like WLM
> may not be fully installed.
> You don't need to pay for anything.
>
>
> --
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>
> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Well, I have installed the program from the URL below, 3 times now.
>>
>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>
>> I have installed it on Vista32 and Vista64. Both Ultimate edition.
>>
>> And from my first post in this thread
>>
>> "when I click on the link from the
>> Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile, then nothing. A few
>> times
>> it will say ...Wait while windows live mail is configured...(or something
>> like that), then nothing"
>>
>> When I click on Home from the Toolbar (top left of browser) I go
>> here----- http://home.live.com/ ....all web based.
>>
>> Do I have to have a paid subscription or something? From the Toolbar,
>> what do I click?
>>
>> Dave, thanks for your reply.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> You seem to be referring to Windows Live Hotmail, which is a web-based
>>> email service, and accessed with a web browser. It's the new version of
>>> Hotmail.
>>>
>>> Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail are desktop programs which access POP
>>> and IMAP email accounts. WLM can also download Hotmail email messages.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>
>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Thanks for the reply, Gary.
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop mail client"
>>>>
>>>> Mail client for what? From what I see it's just another part of the
>>>> browser. And when email is accessed (to read, send, search emails,
>>>> etc.) it goes to the Internet. Am I missing something? I don't see the
>>>> advantage to not just going to the hotmail website and doing the same
>>>> thing. Or keep using Windows Mail or Outlook.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> mail client
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> That's not correct. Windows Live Mail is a standard desktop
>>>>> mail client, which also happens to handle Hotmail accounts.
>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>>I think I'm understanding now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>Windows Live Mail is nothing unless you install the Toolbar. At first
>>>>>>I only installed Mail and Sign-In Assistant. I installed the Toolbar
>>>>>>and basically it is web based email with a local toolbar on IE7. The
>>>>>>Toolbar is the controller. If I'm wrong let me know. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>>> Is Windows Mail a web based email client or a local client (on my
>>>>>>> machine)? I installed it (twice) and it does nothing when I click on
>>>>>>> the link from the Start menu. It will get the hourglass for awhile,
>>>>>>> then nothing. A few times it will say ...Wait while windows live
>>>>>>> mail is configured...(or something like that), then nothing. I have
>>>>>>> a Hotmail and a Live account. But they are web based. Is that
>>>>>>> Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

"Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
news:#...

> After I reinstalled Vista 32 I now have Windows Live Mail alive and kicking.


You should bug this. That's an unacceptable workaround which was forced
on you by a common problem of the WL Installer not giving sufficient diagnostics
about what it did or what it needs you to do so it can do what you expect it to.

I had a problem with my original install of WLMail because it gave a message
about OE being open--UNDER the window. ; }

Most recently I had three attempts at uninstall/reinstall WL Desktop Search
which failed for I don't know what reason. From the state I was in when it finally
worked I could guess that you have to be logged in to Windows LIve from
WLMail before the correct install can be found which will work? Etc.

I wonder what percentage of WL installs appear to users like this?
It looks as if if anything unexpected happens that it won't try to recover or tell us?
Not helpful and barely usable!


IMO

Robert Aldwinckle
---

I was wanting to just do a repair on Vista but it started going through the
complete upgrade so I let it. It didn't hurt anything. As far as I can tell
all is well and I have WL Mail installed. I'm going to completely reformat
and reinstall a clean Vista before long anyway so I don't really care (as
soon as I back up email and such). But Vista does have problems. Combine
that with WL Mail problems and you have trouble. Plus I install anything and
am not that careful about what I do or where I go. Not knocking Microsoft
here. I prefer them to everything and I have used Hackintosh, Ubuntu, et.
al. I have another machine that is just for experimenting.

"Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Poten Tate" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>
>> After I reinstalled Vista 32 I now have Windows Live Mail alive and
>> kicking.
>
>
> You should bug this. That's an unacceptable workaround which was forced
> on you by a common problem of the WL Installer not giving sufficient
> diagnostics
> about what it did or what it needs you to do so it can do what you expect
> it to.
>
> I had a problem with my original install of WLMail because it gave a
> message
> about OE being open--UNDER the window. ; }
>
> Most recently I had three attempts at uninstall/reinstall WL Desktop
> Search
> which failed for I don't know what reason. From the state I was in when
> it finally
> worked I could guess that you have to be logged in to Windows LIve from
> WLMail before the correct install can be found which will work? Etc.
>
> I wonder what percentage of WL installs appear to users like this?
> It looks as if if anything unexpected happens that it won't try to recover
> or tell us?
> Not helpful and barely usable!
>
>
> IMO
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>