Windows live messenger is so flawed it seems.

I wrote this in another post but decided to publish it here for all to see,
there seems to be a conflict with Sony sonicstage/mp3 software and live
messenger and the suggestion is to remove your sonicstage gear! So the
suggestion is I remove several hundred GB's of music to install messenger and
not use my mp3 player! What about getting windows live team and Sony to sort
this out between them? But to be honest this is just another thing that puts
me off windows live messenger full stop. Firstly mad metadata
defragmentation, and no i didnt have a beta verison that wrote to the
messenger usn jrnl reader service, then an email arrives from the windows
support team saying messenger has a problem with working out metadata so my
133mb metadata in the messenger usn jrnl reader service that rises each time
i virus scan to 176mb and holds but defrags every 20 minutes so badly i need
to do an offline defrag (takes a breath) could be just 17mb! I only had
76,3mb of metadata before i installed this monster the fact no one can see
each other online unless they set their status to online, not busy or on a
call etc, that messenger just crashes period, that video does not work
properly without crashing, that messenger just closes and wants to send error
reports when its not even being used, just sitting idle, that you have stored
in plain text our passwords and email addresses! After two additional
releases none of this is fixed, what does this say? Rushed software possibly,
and the fact i have to keep saying NO to the upgrade once a week after a OS
reinstall to clear live out because system restore does not remove that
mountain of metadata just really pushes my angry button. What went wrong? 7.5
worked so well for most of us, when will you fix these issues?

Greetings,

No, the solution is to the remove the filter if available, not the entire thing if possible.
Keep in mind this is just a workaround until Sony or Microsoft makes a solution.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--


"killhippie" <> wrote in message
newsCC98950-E455-4FB0-A8CA-...
>I wrote this in another post but decided to publish it here for all to see,
> there seems to be a conflict with Sony sonicstage/mp3 software and live
> messenger and the suggestion is to remove your sonicstage gear! So the
> suggestion is I remove several hundred GB's of music to install messenger and
> not use my mp3 player! What about getting windows live team and Sony to sort
> this out between them? But to be honest this is just another thing that puts
> me off windows live messenger full stop. Firstly mad metadata
> defragmentation, and no i didnt have a beta verison that wrote to the
> messenger usn jrnl reader service, then an email arrives from the windows
> support team saying messenger has a problem with working out metadata so my
> 133mb metadata in the messenger usn jrnl reader service that rises each time
> i virus scan to 176mb and holds but defrags every 20 minutes so badly i need
> to do an offline defrag (takes a breath) could be just 17mb! I only had
> 76,3mb of metadata before i installed this monster the fact no one can see
> each other online unless they set their status to online, not busy or on a
> call etc, that messenger just crashes period, that video does not work
> properly without crashing, that messenger just closes and wants to send error
> reports when its not even being used, just sitting idle, that you have stored
> in plain text our passwords and email addresses! After two additional
> releases none of this is fixed, what does this say? Rushed software possibly,
> and the fact i have to keep saying NO to the upgrade once a week after a OS
> reinstall to clear live out because system restore does not remove that
> mountain of metadata just really pushes my angry button. What went wrong? 7.5
> worked so well for most of us, when will you fix these issues?
>

I agree with what you're saying. Live messenger is too flawed. I am tired of
the errors and having not responding appear constantly when I'm on messenger
or spaces. I reformatted my computer plus followed every possible advice
given to correct all the problems and nothing seems to work.
I think I have to resort back to messenger 7.5 again. Most on my friends
on my contact list are fed up as well. I'm not the only one it seems.

"killhippie" wrote:

> I wrote this in another post but decided to publish it here for all to see,
> there seems to be a conflict with Sony sonicstage/mp3 software and live
> messenger and the suggestion is to remove your sonicstage gear! So the
> suggestion is I remove several hundred GB's of music to install messenger and
> not use my mp3 player! What about getting windows live team and Sony to sort
> this out between them? But to be honest this is just another thing that puts
> me off windows live messenger full stop. Firstly mad metadata
> defragmentation, and no i didnt have a beta verison that wrote to the
> messenger usn jrnl reader service, then an email arrives from the windows
> support team saying messenger has a problem with working out metadata so my
> 133mb metadata in the messenger usn jrnl reader service that rises each time
> i virus scan to 176mb and holds but defrags every 20 minutes so badly i need
> to do an offline defrag (takes a breath) could be just 17mb! I only had
> 76,3mb of metadata before i installed this monster the fact no one can see
> each other online unless they set their status to online, not busy or on a
> call etc, that messenger just crashes period, that video does not work
> properly without crashing, that messenger just closes and wants to send error
> reports when its not even being used, just sitting idle, that you have stored
> in plain text our passwords and email addresses! After two additional
> releases none of this is fixed, what does this say? Rushed software possibly,
> and the fact i have to keep saying NO to the upgrade once a week after a OS
> reinstall to clear live out because system restore does not remove that
> mountain of metadata just really pushes my angry button. What went wrong? 7.5
> worked so well for most of us, when will you fix these issues?
>

"Babydolly" wrote:

> I agree with what you're saying. Live messenger is too flawed. I am tired of
> the errors and having not responding appear constantly when I'm on messenger
> or spaces. I reformatted my computer plus followed every possible advice
> given to correct all the problems and nothing seems to work.
> I think I have to resort back to messenger 7.5 again. Most on my friends
> on my contact list are fed up as well. I'm not the only one it seems.
>
> "killhippie" wrote:
>
> > I wrote this in another post but decided to publish it here for all to see,
> > there seems to be a conflict with Sony sonicstage/mp3 software and live
> > messenger and the suggestion is to remove your sonicstage gear! So the
> > suggestion is I remove several hundred GB's of music to install messenger and
> > not use my mp3 player! What about getting windows live team and Sony to sort
> > this out between them? But to be honest this is just another thing that puts
> > me off windows live messenger full stop. Firstly mad metadata
> > defragmentation, and no i didnt have a beta verison that wrote to the
> > messenger usn jrnl reader service, then an email arrives from the windows
> > support team saying messenger has a problem with working out metadata so my
> > 133mb metadata in the messenger usn jrnl reader service that rises each time
> > i virus scan to 176mb and holds but defrags every 20 minutes so badly i need
> > to do an offline defrag (takes a breath) could be just 17mb! I only had
> > 76,3mb of metadata before i installed this monster the fact no one can see
> > each other online unless they set their status to online, not busy or on a
> > call etc, that messenger just crashes period, that video does not work
> > properly without crashing, that messenger just closes and wants to send error
> > reports when its not even being used, just sitting idle, that you have stored
> > in plain text our passwords and email addresses! After two additional
> > releases none of this is fixed, what does this say? Rushed software possibly,
> > and the fact i have to keep saying NO to the upgrade once a week after a OS
> > reinstall to clear live out because system restore does not remove that
> > mountain of metadata just really pushes my angry button. What went wrong? 7.5
> > worked so well for most of us, when will you fix these issues?
> > Most of my friends are in agreement with yours! I have to say I'm using 7.5 quite happily right now knowing that i can be seen have conversations and have no crashes also i can have have auto connect/sign in running without a simple hacker tool grabbing my details! Plain text for log in details, come on messenger team see the charade this is becoming, yes many are happy with the product i'm sure but even the less pc literate are seeing these problems now, and as for the messenger blog, that breakfast metaphor is a bloated heart attack! and and its cerainly clogged the arteries of my Voodoo. I'll just keep pressing "remind me next week" till this gets sorted, but i wont hold my breath.

This is the first I've heard of this issue. I'll look into it.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Greetings,
>
> No, the solution is to the remove the filter if available, not the entire
> thing if possible. Keep in mind this is just a workaround until Sony or
> Microsoft makes a solution.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
>
> "killhippie" <> wrote in message
> newsCC98950-E455-4FB0-A8CA-...
>>I wrote this in another post but decided to publish it here for all to
>>see,
>> there seems to be a conflict with Sony sonicstage/mp3 software and live
>> messenger and the suggestion is to remove your sonicstage gear! So the
>> suggestion is I remove several hundred GB's of music to install messenger
>> and
>> not use my mp3 player! What about getting windows live team and Sony to
>> sort
>> this out between them? But to be honest this is just another thing that
>> puts
>> me off windows live messenger full stop. Firstly mad metadata
>> defragmentation, and no i didnt have a beta verison that wrote to the
>> messenger usn jrnl reader service, then an email arrives from the windows
>> support team saying messenger has a problem with working out metadata so
>> my
>> 133mb metadata in the messenger usn jrnl reader service that rises each
>> time
>> i virus scan to 176mb and holds but defrags every 20 minutes so badly i
>> need
>> to do an offline defrag (takes a breath) could be just 17mb! I only had
>> 76,3mb of metadata before i installed this monster the fact no one can
>> see
>> each other online unless they set their status to online, not busy or on
>> a
>> call etc, that messenger just crashes period, that video does not work
>> properly without crashing, that messenger just closes and wants to send
>> error
>> reports when its not even being used, just sitting idle, that you have
>> stored
>> in plain text our passwords and email addresses! After two additional
>> releases none of this is fixed, what does this say? Rushed software
>> possibly,
>> and the fact i have to keep saying NO to the upgrade once a week after a
>> OS
>> reinstall to clear live out because system restore does not remove that
>> mountain of metadata just really pushes my angry button. What went wrong?
>> 7.5
>> worked so well for most of us, when will you fix these issues?
>>
>
>

John Holmes [MSFT] wrote:
> This is the first I've heard of this issue. I'll look into it.
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Greetings,
>>
>> No, the solution is to the remove the filter if available, not the
>> entire thing if possible. Keep in mind this is just a workaround until
>> Sony or Microsoft makes a solution.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>>
>> "killhippie" <> wrote in message
>> newsCC98950-E455-4FB0-A8CA-...
>>> I wrote this in another post but decided to publish it here for all
>>> to see,
>>> there seems to be a conflict with Sony sonicstage/mp3 software and live
>>> messenger and the suggestion is to remove your sonicstage gear! So the
>>> suggestion is I remove several hundred GB's of music to install
>>> messenger and
>>> not use my mp3 player! What about getting windows live team and Sony
>>> to sort
>>> this out between them? But to be honest this is just another thing
>>> that puts
>>> me off windows live messenger full stop. Firstly mad metadata
>>> defragmentation, and no i didnt have a beta verison that wrote to the
>>> messenger usn jrnl reader service, then an email arrives from the
>>> windows
>>> support team saying messenger has a problem with working out metadata
>>> so my
>>> 133mb metadata in the messenger usn jrnl reader service that rises
>>> each time
>>> i virus scan to 176mb and holds but defrags every 20 minutes so badly
>>> i need
>>> to do an offline defrag (takes a breath) could be just 17mb! I only had
>>> 76,3mb of metadata before i installed this monster the fact no one
>>> can see
>>> each other online unless they set their status to online, not busy or
>>> on a
>>> call etc, that messenger just crashes period, that video does not work
>>> properly without crashing, that messenger just closes and wants to
>>> send error
>>> reports when its not even being used, just sitting idle, that you
>>> have stored
>>> in plain text our passwords and email addresses! After two additional
>>> releases none of this is fixed, what does this say? Rushed software
>>> possibly,
>>> and the fact i have to keep saying NO to the upgrade once a week
>>> after a OS
>>> reinstall to clear live out because system restore does not remove that
>>> mountain of metadata just really pushes my angry button. What went
>>> wrong? 7.5
>>> worked so well for most of us, when will you fix these issues?
>>>
>>
>>
The metadata issue may be because of sharing folders.