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TONY123
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      06-04-2008
when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens on
either i then restart the computer and all works well this happens almost
daily any advice would be appreciated as microsoft is no help at all. i am
sorry i bought this new computer vista never had a problem with windows xp. i
think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
old and out of warrenty.

 
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      06-04-2008
On Jun 4, 11:32*am, "TONY123" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found *nothing happenson
> either i then restart the computer and all works well this happens almost
> daily any advice would be appreciated as microsoft is no help at all. i am
> sorry i bought this new computer vista never had a problem with windows xp.. i
> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
> old and out of warrenty.


Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
power?

There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.

If you would like help, please describe your setup.

-solon fox
 
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      06-04-2008
Why did you wait 'til it ran out of Warranty to ask?
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"TONY123" wrote:

> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens on
> either i then restart the computer and all works well this happens almost
> daily any advice would be appreciated as microsoft is no help at all. i am
> sorry i bought this new computer vista never had a problem with windows xp. i
> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
> old and out of warrenty.
>
>

 
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      06-04-2008
solon fox wrote:
>> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found Â*nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
>> old and out of warrenty.

>
>Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
>hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
>a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
>direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
>configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
>mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
>wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
>power?
>
>There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
>and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
>installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.
>
>If you would like help, please describe your setup.
>
>-solon fox

THE COMPUTER IS A DESK TOP I USE NO ROUTER I AM HOOKED DIRCTLY TO THE
INTERNET BY A CABEL MODEM THIS HAPPENS AFTER I START IT UP IN THE MORNING FOR
THE FIRST TIME I KEEP IT ON ALL DAY AND SHUT IT DOWN AT NITE IT ALWAYS WORKS
AFTER I RE START IT AND IS GOOD ALL DAYYOU SAID POWER SETTINGS COULD YOU
EXPLAIN I HAVE IT SET TO SAVE POWER SETTING THIS STARTED AFTER THE WARRENTY
RAN OUT.

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      06-04-2008
Mick Murphy wrote:
>Why did you wait 'til it ran out of Warranty to ask?
>> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
>> old and out of warrenty.



THE PROBLEM STARTED WHEN THE WARRENTY RAN OUT AND HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR A
MONTH BEFORE THAT IT WORKED GREAT

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      06-04-2008
On Jun 4, 5:28*pm, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> solon fox wrote:
> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found *nothing happens on

> >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1 year
> >> old and out of warrenty.

>
> >Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
> >hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
> >a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
> >direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
> >configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
> >mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
> >wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
> >power?

>
> >There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
> >and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
> >installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.

>
> >If you would like help, please describe your setup.

>
> >-solon fox

>
> THE COMPUTER IS A DESK TOP I USE NO ROUTER I AM HOOKED DIRCTLY TO THE
> INTERNET BY A CABEL MODEM THIS HAPPENS AFTER I START IT UP IN THE MORNING FOR
> THE FIRST TIME I KEEP IT ON ALL DAY AND SHUT IT DOWN AT NITE IT ALWAYS WORKS
> AFTER I RE START IT AND IS GOOD ALL DAYYOU SAID POWER SETTINGS COULD YOU
> EXPLAIN I HAVE IT SET TO SAVE POWER SETTING THIS STARTED AFTER THE WARRENTY
> RAN OUT.
>
> --
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>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.

Let's try the easy stuff first:
Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
different one
- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
Performance" for now.

There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006...windows-6.html

Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).

I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
seems remote, but something to consider.

We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
regardless of the company, you could give them a try.

The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
connecting.

Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.

-solon fox


 
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      06-05-2008
"TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote in message
news:853042e877691@uwe...
> solon fox wrote:
>>> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then
>>> close e
>>> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found nothing happens
>>> on

>>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>> think vista has bugs and microsoft will not admit it the computer is 1
>>> year
>>> old and out of warrenty.

>>
>>Is your computer a laptop or a desktop? Does this happen after sleep,
>>hibernate or inactivity? Are you connected directly to a DSL modem or
>>a cable modem? Are you using a wireless connection to a router or a
>>direct ethernet connection? What brand is your router? Is it
>>configured to keep your Internet connection alive? What are your
>>mobility settings? Are the power settings set correctly, or does your
>>wireless and/or ethernet go to sleep? Are you plugged-in or on battery
>>power?
>>
>>There are too many possible differences between your new PC hardware
>>and configuration settings to simply blame Vista or believe that
>>installing XP on your now 1 year old computer would solve the problem.
>>
>>If you would like help, please describe your setup.
>>
>>-solon fox

> THE COMPUTER IS A DESK TOP I USE NO ROUTER I AM HOOKED DIRCTLY TO THE
> INTERNET BY A CABEL MODEM THIS HAPPENS AFTER I START IT UP IN THE MORNING
> FOR
> THE FIRST TIME I KEEP IT ON ALL DAY AND SHUT IT DOWN AT NITE IT ALWAYS
> WORKS
> AFTER I RE START IT AND IS GOOD ALL DAYYOU SAID POWER SETTINGS COULD YOU
> EXPLAIN I HAVE IT SET TO SAVE POWER SETTING THIS STARTED AFTER THE
> WARRENTY
> RAN OUT.



Make sure the modem is fully powered up before starting the computer.

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      06-05-2008
solon fox wrote:
>> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
>> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found Â*nothing happens on

>[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
>Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
>month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.
>
>Let's try the easy stuff first:
>Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
>- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
>different one
>- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
>and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
>hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
>network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
>Performance" for now.
>
>There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
>http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006...windows-6.html
>
>Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
>System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).
>
>I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
>seems remote, but something to consider.
>
>We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
>cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
>regardless of the company, you could give them a try.
>
>The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
>recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
>connecting.
>
>Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
>"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
>Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
>seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
>it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
>not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.
>
>-solon fox

i followed your advice changed the cabel hook up with a new one and set the
power settings as you described however i can not find anetwork connections
in my control panel do it ave a different name on tis computer, also i was on
the phone with my isp for an hour they tryed many things and then said it was
in my software. i also did a full factory restore it was built ito my
computer and several system restores it worked for a week then went back to
doing the same i will let you know in a few days if the things you said
helped if not its back to the same. thank you for you help

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      06-05-2008
On Jun 5, 7:41*am, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
> solon fox wrote:
> >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found *nothing happens on

> >[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
> >Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
> >month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.

>
> >Let's try the easy stuff first:
> >Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
> >- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
> >different one
> >- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
> >and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
> >hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
> >network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
> >Performance" for now.

>
> >There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
> >http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006...ide-to-windows...

>
> >Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
> >System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).

>
> >I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
> >seems remote, but something to consider.

>
> >We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
> >cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
> >regardless of the company, you could give them a try.

>
> >The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
> >recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
> >connecting.

>
> >Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
> >"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
> >Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
> >seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
> >it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
> >not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.

>
> >-solon fox

>
> i followed your advice changed the cabel hook up with a new one and set the
> power settings as you described however i can not find anetwork connections
> in my control panel do it ave a different name on tis computer, also i wason
> the phone with my isp for an hour they tryed many things and then said it was
> in my software. i also did a full factory restore it was built ito my
> computer and several system restores it worked for a week then went back to
> doing the same i will let you know in a few days if the things you said
> helped if not its back to the same. thank you for you help
>
> --
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>
> - Show quoted text -


In my view, these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose
because the tools they have given us don't help much. There is another
way to get to the Network Connections properties, Control Panel
\Network and Internet\Network Connections.

Go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center,
in the left-hand pane select "Manage network connections". Disabling
and enabling the 'Local Area Connection' as a manual workaround is
time consuming and inefficient. What it does is knocks out your
network card and then refreshes it. The same thing happens when you
restart your computer. If doing this doesn't bring your Internet
connection back, then the problem is definitely with the cable modem.
Regardless of what your cable provider may tell you, the simplest fix
is a firmware upgrade to the cable modem. They could send a technician
out to do that, but we all know how impatient and unreliable their
tech support is. I mean, are they going to send a guy out to watch all
day long until the problem appears? I think not. There is software
that they can run on their end to trap the problem, but the tech
support you usually talk to only knows the script they tell them to
use. You'd have to break through to 'level 3' support before you'd
talk to anyone with the slightest chance of helping you.

But, it is highly unlikely based on your descriptions that resetting
the connection through Network Connections would not reestablish a
valid connection - so, I shouldn't trash the cable company tech
support too much.

The only reasons I can think of that restoring you PC to its original
state as you have done would fix the problem are that Windows Update
either updated the TCP/IP stack or you applied a driver update to the
NIC. In either case, I'd be going right back to the cable modem or the
ISP gateway. You may never know the actual cause if that is the case
because the cable company won't notify you of any patches they apply.

When you talked to the cable tech support, they should have tested the
cable modem and checked the firmware with your help. You could insist
on a new cable modem, but there is no guarantee that they would give
you one with a higher-level of firmware. It may just mysteriously fix
itself someday. There is an off chance that the Cat V cable between
your modem and your PC was bad and the problem is now fixed.

A NIC card should never sleep when connected and on a desktop that is
plugged in. That's why I suggested the aggressive power settings,
besides you're in the habit of shutting down when you're through for
the day anyways.

Although, you must be frustrated I'd still like to know of any changes
in your status.

-solon fox
 
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On Jun 5, 8:59*am, solon fox <solon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 7:41*am, "TONY123 via WindowsKB.com" <u44058@uwe> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > solon fox wrote:
> > >> >> when i start up my computer and go e mail it says connecting i then close e
> > >> >> mail and go to internet explorer it says web site found *nothinghappens on
> > >[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]

>
> > >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > >Thanks. Okay, you've just eliminated a whole slew of possibilities.
> > >Now we are down to a) something that changed in Vista in the last
> > >month and b) problems with your cable modem or ISP.

>
> > >Let's try the easy stuff first:
> > >Just some ideas do any/all or none as it suits you.
> > >- replace the cable between your desktop and the cable modem with a
> > >different one
> > >- go to Control Panel and Power Options and do the anti-green thing
> > >and set everything to always on (eliminate problems with sleep and
> > >hibernate mode) we especially don't want the ethernet card, the
> > >network or the hard drive to ever sleep.Change your plan to "High
> > >Performance" for now.

>
> > >There's a power settings tutorial here, if you need a guide
> > >http://www.thegline.com/windows/2006...ide-to-windows....

>
> > >Since the problem started a month ago, it could be solved with a
> > >System Restore, if you have one old enough (probably not).

>
> > >I cannot think of a way that a driver could cause this problem - it
> > >seems remote, but something to consider.

>
> > >We can't rule out the possibility that something changed with your
> > >cable provider, though their tech support is notoriously unhelpful
> > >regardless of the company, you could give them a try.

>
> > >The thought of disabling IPV6 occurs to me, but I'm not going to
> > >recommend it as it would really only save you a millisecond on
> > >connecting.

>
> > >Do this only after the problem occurs: Go to Control Panel, key
> > >"Network Connections" in the search box and select "View Network
> > >Connections" highlight Local Area Connection and disable it. Wait 10
> > >seconds and enable it. That should waste a couple of minutes, but if
> > >it solves the problem then that tells me something about what it is
> > >not in the restart process. Let me know on this one.

>
> > >-solon fox

>
> > i followed your advice changed the cabel hook up with a new one and set the
> > power settings as you described however i can not find anetwork connections
> > in my control panel do it ave a different name on tis computer, also i was on
> > the phone with my isp for an hour they tryed many things and then said it was
> > in my software. i also did a full factory restore it was built ito my
> > computer and several system restores it worked for a week then went backto
> > doing the same i will let you know in a few days if the things you said
> > helped if not its back to the same. thank you for you help

>
> > --
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>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> In my view, these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose
> because the tools they have given us don't help much. There is another
> way to get to the Network Connections properties, Control Panel
> \Network and Internet\Network Connections.
>
> Go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center,
> in the left-hand pane select "Manage network connections". Disabling
> and enabling the 'Local Area Connection' as a manual workaround is
> time consuming and inefficient. What it does is knocks out your
> network card and then refreshes it. The same thing happens when you
> restart your computer. If doing this doesn't bring your Internet
> connection back, then the problem is definitely with the cable modem.
> Regardless of what your cable provider may tell you, the simplest fix
> is a firmware upgrade to the cable modem. They could send a technician
> out to do that, but we all know how impatient and unreliable their
> tech support is. I mean, are they going to send a guy out to watch all
> day long until the problem appears? I think not. There is software
> that they can run on their end to trap the problem, but the tech
> support you usually talk to only knows the script they tell them to
> use. You'd have to break through to 'level 3' support before you'd
> talk to anyone with the slightest chance of helping you.
>
> But, it is highly unlikely based on your descriptions that resetting
> the connection through Network Connections would not reestablish a
> valid connection - so, I shouldn't trash the cable company tech
> support too much.
>
> The only reasons I can think of that restoring you PC to its original
> state as you have done would fix the problem are that Windows Update
> either updated the TCP/IP stack or you applied a driver update to the
> NIC. In either case, I'd be going right back to the cable modem or the
> ISP gateway. You may never know the actual cause if that is the case
> because the cable company won't notify you of any patches they apply.
>
> When you talked to the cable tech support, they should have tested the
> cable modem and checked the firmware with your help. You could insist
> on a new cable modem, but there is no guarantee that they would give
> you one with a higher-level of firmware. It may just mysteriously fix
> itself someday. There is an off chance that the Cat V cable between
> your modem and your PC was bad and the problem is now fixed.
>
> A NIC card should never sleep when connected and on a desktop that is
> plugged in. That's why I suggested the aggressive power settings,
> besides you're in the habit of shutting down when you're through for
> the day anyways.
>
> Although, you must be frustrated I'd still like to know of any changes
> in your status.
>
> -solon fox- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Tony,

FYI - I went through a similar situation with the cable company and
dropped Internet connections. Months went by getting nowhere with
them, yet in the end they finally did fess up and fixed a problem with
a router on their end.

-solon fox
 
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