Windows Mail the ONLY default newsreader c\alled by Outlook

Vista Home Premium SP1, Outlook 2007.
The Go-News menu function in Outlook 2007 on Vista Home Premium SP1 will NOT
call any other newsreader other than Windows Mail, even when the other news
reader is set as default.(Ie it opens when external news links are
clicked...)
This is in direct contradiction to Outlook 2007 on XP.
Does anyone know of a registry hack to allow O2007 to call something other
than Windows Mail?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 08:13:45 +0100, "Gordon"
<> wrote:

>Vista Home Premium SP1, Outlook 2007.
>The Go-News menu function in Outlook 2007 on Vista Home Premium SP1 will NOT
>call any other newsreader other than Windows Mail, even when the other news
>reader is set as default.(Ie it opens when external news links are
>clicked...)
>This is in direct contradiction to Outlook 2007 on XP.
>Does anyone know of a registry hack to allow O2007 to call something other
>than Windows Mail?

If you don't have a third-party newsreader - and have it established
as your default newsreader - Windows Mail is the only possible choice.

Outlook isn't a newsreader.

"Gordon" wrote in <news:g066b4$1mr$>:

> Vista Home Premium SP1, Outlook 2007.
> The Go-News menu function in Outlook 2007 on Vista Home Premium SP1 will NOT
> call any other newsreader other than Windows Mail, even when the other news
> reader is set as default.(Ie it opens when external news links are
> clicked...)
> This is in direct contradiction to Outlook 2007 on XP.
> Does anyone know of a registry hack to allow O2007 to call something other
> than Windows Mail?

So what is specified as the client program for newsgroups in Internet
Options -> Programs?

Outlook doesn't support NNTP (network news transfer protcol). It calls
whatever is designated as the current default NNTP client to handle
newsgroups. So check what is currently designated as the default NNTP
client (by Windows, not by some option within a program, because Outlook
doesn't know about the program, it only knows what Windows was told).

"Nonny" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> If you don't have a third-party newsreader - and have it established
> as your default newsreader - Windows Mail is the only possible choice.
>
> Outlook isn't a newsreader.

Read my post. I HAVE a third-party newsreader application - it IS set as
default, and yes I know that Outlook doesn't do news. The Go-News menu item
is supposed to call the default newsreader - in XP it does. In Vista,
although the third-party newsreader (Thunderbird actually) is set as default
news reader the Go-news item in Outlook under Vista will NOT call anything
except Windows Mail, whether that is set as default or not.

"VanguardLH" <> wrote in message
news:g06u41$rgt$...
>
> So what is specified as the client program for newsgroups in Internet
> Options -> Programs?

Vista doesn't work that way - it doesn't show default applications. However,
as I said in my OP, the third-party newsreader (Thunderbird IS set as
default, and news links from other applications open in TBird NOT Windows
Mail)
>
> Outlook doesn't support NNTP (network news transfer protcol). It calls
> whatever is designated as the current default NNTP client to handle
> newsgroups. So check what is currently designated as the default NNTP
> client (by Windows, not by some option within a program, because Outlook
> doesn't know about the program, it only knows what Windows was told).

I *KNOW* Outlook doesn't do NNTP. Read my OP.

Don't rely on that option. You can easily create your own button in Outlook
which points to any application or file that you want.
See http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/customizetoolbar.htm

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"Gordon" <> wrote in message
news:g066b4$1mr$...
> Vista Home Premium SP1, Outlook 2007.
> The Go-News menu function in Outlook 2007 on Vista Home Premium SP1 will
> NOT call any other newsreader other than Windows Mail, even when the other
> news reader is set as default.(Ie it opens when external news links are
> clicked...)
> This is in direct contradiction to Outlook 2007 on XP.
> Does anyone know of a registry hack to allow O2007 to call something other
> than Windows Mail?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:03 +0100, "Gordon"
<> wrote:

>"Nonny" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>>
>> If you don't have a third-party newsreader - and have it established
>> as your default newsreader - Windows Mail is the only possible choice.
>>
>> Outlook isn't a newsreader.
>
>Read my post. I HAVE a third-party newsreader application - it IS set as
>default, and yes I know that Outlook doesn't do news. The Go-News menu item
>is supposed to call the default newsreader - in XP it does. In Vista,
>although the third-party newsreader (Thunderbird actually) is set as default
>news reader the Go-news item in Outlook under Vista will NOT call anything
>except Windows Mail, whether that is set as default or not.
>


Hmmm. Just tried that, and confirmed it.

Which means that it is possible that the NNTP client is hardwired in
the code of Outlook 2007.

Why not just add a short-cut to your client in the QuickLaunch
Toolbar?

It is simple enough to put one there.

By the way, Thunderbird is NOT a "news client". It is a COMBINED
E-mail/Usenet Client.

Want to see an NNTP client? Download Forte's Agent (4.2) and try it
out for a week or two. You will be blown away, if you've never used
one before.


A silly question: Why use a Personal Information Manager (Outlook
2007) to launch your NNTP client in the first place? Just launch it
from within Thunderbird.


Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 08:59:33 -0500, VanguardLH <> wrote:

>"Gordon" wrote in <news:g066b4$1mr$>:
>
>> Vista Home Premium SP1, Outlook 2007.
>> The Go-News menu function in Outlook 2007 on Vista Home Premium SP1 will NOT
>> call any other newsreader other than Windows Mail, even when the other news
>> reader is set as default.(Ie it opens when external news links are
>> clicked...)

I can confirm this. My own experimentation seems to indicate that the
link to "News" in Outlook 2007 is hard-wired to Windows Mail and News.

>> This is in direct contradiction to Outlook 2007 on XP.
>> Does anyone know of a registry hack to allow O2007 to call something other
>> than Windows Mail?


Never tried it in Outlook 2007 on XP. I would suspect that it is much
the same, except that it would be hard-wired to "Outlook Express Mail
and News", rather than "Windows Mail and News", which is a strictly
Vista application.

>So what is specified as the client program for newsgroups in Internet
>Options -> Programs?
>
>Outlook doesn't support NNTP (network news transfer protcol). It calls
>whatever is designated as the current default NNTP client to handle
>newsgroups. So check what is currently designated as the default NNTP
>client (by Windows, not by some option within a program, because Outlook
>doesn't know about the program, it only knows what Windows was told).


After having investigated this more fully, I've come to the conclusion
that the "News"command in the Outlook Menu is HARDWIRED to "Windows
Mail and News", and can no longer be set to the default newsreader
successfully.

Additionally, it appears that Windows Mail and News is hard-wired to
add the extension ".nws" to saved articles. It doesn't appear to me
to be possible to either delete or re-direct this extension to a
third-party client. (I tried to do this with Forte's Agent 4.2, and
was unsuccessful.) This is what leads me to suspect that it is simply
not possible to redirect the "Go->News" command to a third-party NNTP
client.

Outlook has had problems with this command for several years, anyway.
It's about time that Microsoft "officially" broke it.

I've even got Windows Mail and News disabled by a Global Policy, yet
Outlook STILL attempts to call it if one uses the "Go/News" command.

HOWEVER, when one attempts to open a new e-mail item from outside
Outlook 2007 (i.e., from within one's third-party Usenet client),
Outlook 2007 is called if it is set as the Default E-mail client.


Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the correct thread and article.
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:42:29 -0700, Donald L McDaniel
<> wrote:

>Why not just add a short-cut to your client in the QuickLaunch
>Toolbar?
>
>It is simple enough to put one there.

I said that quite some time ago.

>By the way, Thunderbird is NOT a "news client". It is a COMBINED
>E-mail/Usenet Client.

Thank you.

"Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_ne t> wrote in
message news:CEACA2FB-9C3B-4CB2-B5AE-...
> Don't rely on that option. You can easily create your own button in
> Outlook which points to any application or file that you want.
> See http://www.howto-outlook.com/howto/customizetoolbar.htm
>

Thanks for that - I think that needs to be amended for Outlook 2007 - the
procedure is not quite as simple as that!