Windows Update Acting Up

I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose whether to
download and install them'
Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always do, I
ran WU. There were 12 or so
important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I
downloaded and installed them.
Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without my
consent, even though
The settings are still the same - to notify me.

Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem

What could have caused this?

James

JamesJ wrote:
:: I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose
:: whether to download and install them'
:: Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always
:: do, I ran WU. There were 12 or so
:: important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I
:: downloaded and installed them.
:: Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without
:: my consent, even though
:: The settings are still the same - to notify me.
::
:: Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
:: Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem
::
:: What could have caused this?
::
:: James


See: http://blogs.technet.com/mu/

--

TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2010 - Update Services
http://taurarian.mvps.org
======================================
Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties
or guarantees and doesn't give any rights.

From my understanding unless one disables automatic updates
the new update agent will automatically download and install.
But, I'm curious about the 12 or so important updates I was not
notified about.
Should I have read more of the article?

James

"TaurArian" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> JamesJ wrote:
> :: I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose
> :: whether to download and install them'
> :: Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always
> :: do, I ran WU. There were 12 or so
> :: important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I
> :: downloaded and installed them.
> :: Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without
> :: my consent, even though
> :: The settings are still the same - to notify me.
> ::
> :: Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
> :: Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem
> ::
> :: What could have caused this?
> ::
> :: James
>
>
> See: http://blogs.technet.com/mu/
>
> --
>
> TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2010 - Update Services
> http://taurarian.mvps.org
> ======================================
> Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties
> or guarantees and doesn't give any rights.
>
>
>

Installing the WUAgent upgrade should not affect your Automatic Updates
settings or functionality.

Absent any serious numerical Errors in your windowsupdate.log (cf.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093), you may be seeing a delay (i.e., in
downloading all approved updates) caused by excessive demand on the servers
("Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"). See...

• Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates” icon does not
display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340

NB: With the Notify Only (and sometimes with the Automatic or Download but
Notify) option enabled, you'll only see AU's yellow "Updates are ready to be
installed" icon when /all/ of the "approved" updates have downloaded.

If some but not all of the approved updates have downloaded, you may
encounter a "Click to install important updates and then shut down" button
when you go to turn off your computer. Using it will install the
already-downloaded updates...but there's no way of knowing which updates
they are...at least not without doing a little digging in windowsupdate.log.

• Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx

• Much ado about nothing
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/arch...-updating.aspx

In most cases, you can install all of the updates manually via
Windows/Microsoft Update website (WinXP) or by running Windows Update
manually (Vista) instead: Understand that by doing so, you're pushing all
other Automatic Updates users further back in the queue...which may explain,
at least in part, why Automatic Updates hasn't brought them in for you yet.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


JamesJ wrote:
> From my understanding unless one disables automatic updates
> the new update agent will automatically download and install.
> But, I'm curious about the 12 or so important updates I was not
> notified about.
> Should I have read more of the article?
>
>> See: http://blogs.technet.com/mu/
>>
>>>> I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose
>>>> whether to download and install them'
>>>> Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always
>>>> do, I ran WU. There were 12 or so
>>>> important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I
>>>> downloaded and installed them.
>>>> Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without
>>>> my consent, even though
>>>> The settings are still the same - to notify me.
>>>>
>>>> Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
>>>> Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem
>>>>
>>>> What could have caused this?

A lot ot take in.
I'll see if it occurs again.
An I'll look into the windowsupdate.log

Thanks,
James

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Installing the WUAgent upgrade should not affect your Automatic Updates
> settings or functionality.
>
> Absent any serious numerical Errors in your windowsupdate.log (cf.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093), you may be seeing a delay (i.e.,
> in downloading all approved updates) caused by excessive demand on the
> servers ("Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"). See...
>
> • Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates” icon does not
> display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
> service
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340
>
> NB: With the Notify Only (and sometimes with the Automatic or Download but
> Notify) option enabled, you'll only see AU's yellow "Updates are ready to
> be installed" icon when /all/ of the "approved" updates have downloaded.
>
> If some but not all of the approved updates have downloaded, you may
> encounter a "Click to install important updates and then shut down" button
> when you go to turn off your computer. Using it will install the
> already-downloaded updates...but there's no way of knowing which updates
> they are...at least not without doing a little digging in
> windowsupdate.log.
>
> • Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
> Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx
>
> • Much ado about nothing
>
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/arch...-updating.aspx
>
> In most cases, you can install all of the updates manually via
> Windows/Microsoft Update website (WinXP) or by running Windows Update
> manually (Vista) instead: Understand that by doing so, you're pushing all
> other Automatic Updates users further back in the queue...which may
> explain, at least in part, why Automatic Updates hasn't brought them in
> for you yet.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> www.banthecheck.com
>
>
> JamesJ wrote:
>> From my understanding unless one disables automatic updates
>> the new update agent will automatically download and install.
>> But, I'm curious about the 12 or so important updates I was not
>> notified about.
>> Should I have read more of the article?
>>
>>> See: http://blogs.technet.com/mu/
>>>
>>>>> I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose
>>>>> whether to download and install them'
>>>>> Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always
>>>>> do, I ran WU. There were 12 or so
>>>>> important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I
>>>>> downloaded and installed them.
>>>>> Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without
>>>>> my consent, even though
>>>>> The settings are still the same - to notify me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
>>>>> Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem
>>>>>
>>>>> What could have caused this?
>

YW, James, and thanks for your feedback.

JamesJ wrote:
> A lot ot take in.
> I'll see if it occurs again.
> An I'll look into the windowsupdate.log
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Installing the WUAgent upgrade should not affect your Automatic Updates
>> settings or functionality.
>>
>> Absent any serious numerical Errors in your windowsupdate.log (cf.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093), you may be seeing a delay (i.e.,
>> in downloading all approved updates) caused by excessive demand on the
>> servers ("Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"). See...
>>
>> • Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates” icon does not
>> display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
>> service
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340
>>
>> NB: With the Notify Only (and sometimes with the Automatic or Download
>> but
>> Notify) option enabled, you'll only see AU's yellow "Updates are ready to
>> be installed" icon when /all/ of the "approved" updates have downloaded.
>>
>> If some but not all of the approved updates have downloaded, you may
>> encounter a "Click to install important updates and then shut down"
>> button
>> when you go to turn off your computer. Using it will install the
>> already-downloaded updates...but there's no way of knowing which updates
>> they are...at least not without doing a little digging in
>> windowsupdate.log.
>>
>> • Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
>> Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
>>
>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx
>>
>> • Much ado about nothing
>>
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/arch...-updating.aspx
>>
>> In most cases, you can install all of the updates manually via
>> Windows/Microsoft Update website (WinXP) or by running Windows Update
>> manually (Vista) instead: Understand that by doing so, you're pushing all
>> other Automatic Updates users further back in the queue...which may
>> explain, at least in part, why Automatic Updates hasn't brought them in
>> for you yet.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> www.banthecheck.com
>>
>>
>> JamesJ wrote:
>>> From my understanding unless one disables automatic updates
>>> the new update agent will automatically download and install.
>>> But, I'm curious about the 12 or so important updates I was not
>>> notified about.
>>> Should I have read more of the article?
>>>
>>>> See: http://blogs.technet.com/mu/
>>>>
>>>>>> I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose
>>>>>> whether to download and install them'
>>>>>> Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always
>>>>>> do, I ran WU. There were 12 or so
>>>>>> important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I
>>>>>> downloaded and installed them.
>>>>>> Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without
>>>>>> my consent, even though
>>>>>> The settings are still the same - to notify me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
>>>>>> Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What could have caused this?

Thx "TaurArian" for your blog entry, permanent link http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...ws-update.aspx "Upcoming Update for Windows Update" (Fri 10 Jul 2009 14:49, unknown GMT Offset), that announces "an upgrade to the two Windows Update and http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate "Microsoft Update" services. As a part of the service upgrade, an update to the Windows Update and Automatic Updates client code will be required. We will start this infrastructure update in late August, and it will take a couple of months to complete..."

This prompted me to revisit http://update.microsoft.com , which failed as before, then http://www.update.microsoft.com , which this time caused installing a new ActiveX (said of 09 Aug 2009!) then installed correctly the 14 pending updates (On last "2nd Tuesday", 13 Oct 2009, MU stopped with an error *even before* starting updating itself or detecting Windows updates).

The adding of "www.", while unlikely the cause of fix, can't be totally excluded, and the continuous upgrade process mentioned in the blog will go on for months, so this post, in addition to a BIG thank to "TaurArian" for getting me out of this nightmare, is also to recall not to stop regularly trying the various entries, as long as you have troubles with Microsoft Update.

Versailles, Fri 30 Oct 2009 13:13:20 +0100


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Subject: Windows Update Acting Up

I have Windows Update set to 'Check for update but let me choose whether to download and install them'
Last week I hadn't gotten any update notifications so, like I always do, I ran WU. There were 12 or so important updates available although I wasn't notified of these. I downloaded and installed them.
Today, Windows Update AUTOMATICALLY downloaded and installed without my consent, even though The settings are still the same - to notify me.

Today's update was Windows Update Agent 7.4.7600.226.
Maybe the new update agent corrected the problem

What could have caused this?

James